Milwaukee could start Henson, does this make Sanders expendable?

[gpap]

I can not for any reason see Danny Ainge taking the massive gamble of taking on a 4 year $44 million contract for a guy that is in rehab or just got out of rehab. Boston's front office has seen what alcohol and/or drugs can do to a player(Vin Baker). I would just be absolutely astounded to see Ainge take any shot at Sanders.

If people think Wallace's contract is poison, watch what happens with Sanders contract perception if he can't change his ways.

If I was playing in Milwaukee, I'd probably want to throw back a 6 pack as well.

[D.o.s.]

I can not for any reason see Danny Ainge taking the massive gamble of taking on a 4 year $44 million contract for a guy that is in rehab or just got out of rehab. Boston's front office has seen what alcohol and/or drugs can do to a player(Vin Baker). I would just be absolutely astounded to see Ainge take any shot at Sanders.

4 years, ~$40 million, eh?

Obligatory:

[wdleehi]

I am against trading for that contract on a player with that many questions around him. 



If the team was one move away and it was adding a defensive C, sure, roll the die. 


But that is not the Celtics.  This feels like the moves the Knicks keep doing in the hope of competing, but never do.

I understand what you're saying but I don't agree with it.

I guess I fail to see how meddling around 3rd, 4th or 5th worse in the NBA ( which is probably close to where we are at right now) is any better than competing for a playoff spot

I think by now we should have learned that ping pong balls are not going to fall our way unless we end up being really, really, really bad. And even then, you're not guaranteed anything.

When the Sixers gutted their team last year, I am pretty sure they had Wiggins in mind and instead got stuck with a guy in Embiid who's not going to play this year and could very well be another Greg Oden.

We are talking about a player about to lose his starting spot on the team with the worst record in the NBA last season.  Why would we expect him to somehow move the Celtics anywhere is beyond me.



He is a 44 million gamble that the Celtics really can't afford.  At his best, he is still not a star, and that is what the Celtic's need.


Again, this feels like a NY Knicks move.  "Let's take a chance on Eddie Curry at big money."  "Let's throw a lot of money at Amare." 

[D.o.s.]

The Amar'e deal wasn't so bad right up until the point it was clear that no one was going to insure it.

[LooseCannon]

I can see Milwaukee holding off on dealing Sanders (unless they get a great offer) until Henson establishes himself as a clear starter through his performance in regular season games.

[CFAN38]

I am against trading for that contract on a player with that many questions around him. 



If the team was one move away and it was adding a defensive C, sure, roll the die. 


But that is not the Celtics.  This feels like the moves the Knicks keep doing in the hope of competing, but never do.

I understand what you're saying but I don't agree with it.

I guess I fail to see how meddling around 3rd, 4th or 5th worse in the NBA ( which is probably close to where we are at right now) is any better than competing for a playoff spot

I think by now we should have learned that ping pong balls are not going to fall our way unless we end up being really, really, really bad. And even then, you're not guaranteed anything.

When the Sixers gutted their team last year, I am pretty sure they had Wiggins in mind and instead got stuck with a guy in Embiid who's not going to play this year and could very well be another Greg Oden.

We are talking about a player about to lose his starting spot on the team with the worst record in the NBA last season.  Why would we expect him to somehow move the Celtics anywhere is beyond me.



He is a 44 million gamble that the Celtics really can't afford.  At his best, he is still not a star, and that is what the Celtic's need.


Again, this feels like a NY Knicks move.  "Let's take a chance on Eddie Curry at big money."  "Let's throw a lot of money at Amare."

Im on the fence with the idea of the Cs adding Sanders, the risk is huge but the payoff is also huge. Where Sanders may not be a star, he is elite on the defensive side of the court. He could be the perfect player to pair with Sully and KO. As well as a great P&R dive to the hoop option for Rondo. Then again he could also turn into an albatross contract. Tough call

[Moranis]

The Amar'e deal wasn't so bad right up until the point it was clear that no one was going to insure it.

Amar'e has played in 70% of the Knicks games since he signed the contract (during the same time period Rondo has played in only 60.6% of Boston's games).  The problem wasn't the lack of insurance it is what the injuries did to Amar'e's skills.

[Skywalker2.0]

I am against trading for that contract on a player with that many questions around him. 



If the team was one move away and it was adding a defensive C, sure, roll the die. 


But that is not the Celtics.  This feels like the moves the Knicks keep doing in the hope of competing, but never do.

I understand what you're saying but I don't agree with it.

I guess I fail to see how meddling around 3rd, 4th or 5th worse in the NBA ( which is probably close to where we are at right now) is any better than competing for a playoff spot

I think by now we should have learned that ping pong balls are not going to fall our way unless we end up being really, really, really bad. And even then, you're not guaranteed anything.

When the Sixers gutted their team last year, I am pretty sure they had Wiggins in mind and instead got stuck with a guy in Embiid who's not going to play this year and could very well be another Greg Oden.

We are talking about a player about to lose his starting spot on the team with the worst record in the NBA last season.  Why would we expect him to somehow move the Celtics anywhere is beyond me.



He is a 44 million gamble that the Celtics really can't afford.  At his best, he is still not a star, and that is what the Celtic's need.


Again, this feels like a NY Knicks move.  "Let's take a chance on Eddie Curry at big money."  "Let's throw a lot of money at Amare."

Im on the fence with the idea of the Cs adding Sanders, the risk is huge but the payoff is also huge. Where Sanders may not be a star, he is elite on the defensive side of the court. He could be the perfect player to pair with Sully and KO. As well as a great P&R dive to the hoop option for Rondo. Then again he could also turn into an albatross contract. Tough call

I say no because I have a feeling Sanders will turn into Gerald Wallace. I'd much rather have Henson look at his per 48 min. stats 16.8 points 10.7 rebounds 2.4 assists and 2.6 blocks on 54% shooting.

[Future Celtics Owner]

Regardless is he's expendable or not, he's one of the guys we should atleast spending time trying to acquire.

There's not really a lot of good defensive Centers around, and he's value can never be lower at this point. We should strike before he regains his usual level of play and becomes a little more pricey. A guy who averaged a solid 7 points, 7 rebounds, 2 blocks in only 25 minutes of action, and that's coming off a bad season, I'd be willing to give them a 1st rounder for him

Same here. If Ainge ever wakes up from his slumber, he should consider.

More or less Biz Biyombo can do that.

[gpap]

I am against trading for that contract on a player with that many questions around him. 



If the team was one move away and it was adding a defensive C, sure, roll the die. 


But that is not the Celtics.  This feels like the moves the Knicks keep doing in the hope of competing, but never do.

I understand what you're saying but I don't agree with it.

I guess I fail to see how meddling around 3rd, 4th or 5th worse in the NBA ( which is probably close to where we are at right now) is any better than competing for a playoff spot

I think by now we should have learned that ping pong balls are not going to fall our way unless we end up being really, really, really bad. And even then, you're not guaranteed anything.

When the Sixers gutted their team last year, I am pretty sure they had Wiggins in mind and instead got stuck with a guy in Embiid who's not going to play this year and could very well be another Greg Oden.

We are talking about a player about to lose his starting spot on the team with the worst record in the NBA last season.  Why would we expect him to somehow move the Celtics anywhere is beyond me.



He is a 44 million gamble that the Celtics really can't afford.  At his best, he is still not a star, and that is what the Celtic's need.


Again, this feels like a NY Knicks move.  "Let's take a chance on Eddie Curry at big money."  "Let's throw a lot of money at Amare."

Larry Sanders equals banner 18 thru 40.

[D.o.s.]

Regardless is he's expendable or not, he's one of the guys we should atleast spending time trying to acquire.

There's not really a lot of good defensive Centers around, and he's value can never be lower at this point. We should strike before he regains his usual level of play and becomes a little more pricey. A guy who averaged a solid 7 points, 7 rebounds, 2 blocks in only 25 minutes of action, and that's coming off a bad season, I'd be willing to give them a 1st rounder for him

Same here. If Ainge ever wakes up from his slumber, he should consider.

More or less Biz Biyombo can do that.

There is no better example of a one way player in the NBA than Bismack Biyombo.

[Csfan1984]

Man, KG type? Really, smh... Sanders is Javale McGee type. Maybe Tyson Chandler but hell no is he KG type no matter who is coach.

You have misread MISSERY's post.

I did thanks fantankerous, sorry Missery. Will give up a TP as compensation.  I really don't think the players on "team" or coach staff matters though. Sanders is what he is.

[vjcsmoke]

Well that's exactly why the Bucks are unlikely to deal Henson now.  He's been named the starter.  He is talented and he is CHEAP against the salary cap.

I think Sanders is expendable for the Bucks as long as they get a decent return.  We might have to eat Ilyasova's contract to gain Sanders, but problem is we really don't have the cap space to absorb TWO big cap value deals like that.

I'm not sure how we'd even get Sanders unless we trade a bunch of 1 year expiring deals and a draft pick or two.  If Henson shows himself to be the clear cut starter during preseason, I think we have a chance at Sanders.

Then again as others have mentioned there is the danger of the 'Vin Baker' factor.  I honestly don't know if the risk is worth it, but I love the elite defense Sanders would bring to the 5 position for the Celtics.

[indeedproceed]

Sanders is, as they say in NBA circles, 'Very available'.

The Celtics, rightfully so, are 'very disinterested'.

[AngryAndIrritable]

Teams like Miami can afford a speculative punt on a Michael Beasley.

We can't.