We should trade or signed for a young center (tank mode)

[MISSERY]

Miroslav Raduljica
PPG 3.8
RPG 2.3
BLKPG 0.3
PER 15.31

maybe giving them bogans and filler bucks would do it
he can be our back-up C insurance big

Henry Sims
PPG 7.6
RPG 5.2
BLKPG 0.4
PER 16.14

they need a SF maybe johnson bogans might do it
good starting or back-up C for us

Lucas Nogueira
i think faverani + fillers and 2nd pick might do it
this is guy can be one of bigs in the future

Ognjen Kuzmic
couple of fillers might do it
maybe he still can improved

Jeff Withey
PPG 3.3
RPG 2.6
BLKPG 0.9
PER 15.25

a couple of fillers and pick might do it

Alex Len
PPG 2.0
RPG 2.4
BLKPG 0.4
PER 7.32

picks and fillers might do it

Meyers Leonard
PPG 2.5
RPG 2.8
BLKPG 0.1
PER 9.45

portland would probably ask for a pick
add bogans

Rudy Gobert or Enes Kanter
picks + bass or wallace or green
faverani

anyone on that list we want to have as our center in more years to come?
rondo would be our veteran on the team

[Lucky17]

Tyler Zeller and Kelly Olynyk.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

Tyler Zeller and Kelly Olynyk.

Yep.

[jambr380]

Ughhh, Missery - know you keep trying, but this is a pretty tough thread to get behind. Why would we want any of those players? You are better off campaigning for your favorite guy, Mozgov.

[MISSERY]

Tyler Zeller and Kelly Olynyk.

i agree with that but since we are all planning for big names
why don't we just go for young players
since bass bogans wallace green anthony thorton might be gone..
and since we don't have a KG type guy to help this guys
and a coach in his 2nd year, we should rather go for younger players
and next season 2015-2016 we should add another young SF or young PF

this players will be here for more years to come
kelly, jared, tyler, marcus, james, pressey
with 3 players getting older turner, rondo, bradley to at least mixed in that young players

[MISSERY]

Ughhh, Missery - know you keep trying, but this is a pretty tough thread to get behind. Why would we want any of those players? You are better off campaigning for your favorite guy, Mozgov.

he is not my favorite, i just heard those hibbert thing so i made a thread to rather have mozzy than hibbert, my favorite C plumlee and marc gasol

[Lucky17]

Younger players are not necessarily better players.

And Olynyk and Zeller are the same age or younger than some of the guys on your wish list.

[LooseCannon]

why don't we just go for young players

Youth for the sake of youth isn't a good plan.  Go beyond that and say why these guys and why not someone else?  No one you mentioned is a clear upgrade over Zeller and Faverani so why should the Celtics spend assets instead of trying to develop those guys?

[MISSERY]

Younger players are not necessarily better players.

And Olynyk and Zeller are the same age or younger than some of the guys on your wish list.

my point is that if we are not making the playoffs this year, what's the point of having monroe hibbert sanders etc; then they might just leave soon and go to a contender....
i think rondo fits a contending team, if any team would offer me a 1st round picks i'd do it in a heartbeat, get more picks and get younger....
i read many post here and most trades are for center...so i'd rather have younger guys to have with 2years experienced coach and add to our young players who has potential young smart zeller kelly zully, we might not have a KD in a draft but moving forward with a lot of picks is good to have.... i see us competing uhm maybe 3 or 4 or 5 depending on who are we drafting
if pierce tries to come back after 2 years in DC well that's a good veteran leadership player to have in our team

sorry for my thread, this is just my personal opinion as a celtics fan
respect my post

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

Younger players are not necessarily better players.

And Olynyk and Zeller are the same age or younger than some of the guys on your wish list.

my point is that if we are not making the playoffs this year, what's the point of having monroe hibbert sanders etc; then they might just leave soon and go to a contender....
i think rondo fits a contending team, if any team would offer me a 1st round picks i'd do it in a heartbeat, get more picks and get younger....
i read many post here and most trades are for center...so i'd rather have younger guys to have with 2years experienced coach and add to our young players who has potential young smart zeller kelly zully, we might not have a KD in a draft but moving forward with a lot of picks is good to have.... i see us competing uhm maybe 3 or 4 or 5 depending on who are we drafting
if pierce tries to come back after 2 years in DC well that's a good veteran leadership player to have in our team

Yea but the side you aren't looking at is playing time, we already have enough bigs that will need pt... if it was a guaranteed upgrade then of course you try to get that player but I don't see any of those guys being upgrades on what we have.

To me, it looks like people are willing to trade just for the sake of saying we did something.

Also, it's going to be pretty tough getting much younger than the team we have... who are the old players on our team that are staying? Wallace (who knows if he can even play), Bass isn't 30, Bogans wont be here, and I may be forgetting someone but isn't most of our team 28 and younger? On any team you need experienced players.

[Mazingerz]

None. Zeller, Olynyk and Sully have had more burn than any of the above. The three Cs have shown IMHO far more potential than the choices selected.

[Nikki8]

I think I would just rather go with Zeller and Fav more than anyone on the list.

[MISSERY]

Younger players are not necessarily better players.

And Olynyk and Zeller are the same age or younger than some of the guys on your wish list.

my point is that if we are not making the playoffs this year, what's the point of having monroe hibbert sanders etc; then they might just leave soon and go to a contender....
i think rondo fits a contending team, if any team would offer me a 1st round picks i'd do it in a heartbeat, get more picks and get younger....
i read many post here and most trades are for center...so i'd rather have younger guys to have with 2years experienced coach and add to our young players who has potential young smart zeller kelly zully, we might not have a KD in a draft but moving forward with a lot of picks is good to have.... i see us competing uhm maybe 3 or 4 or 5 depending on who are we drafting
if pierce tries to come back after 2 years in DC well that's a good veteran leadership player to have in our team

Yea but the side you aren't looking at is playing time, we already have enough bigs that will need pt... if it was a guaranteed upgrade then of course you try to get that player but I don't see any of those guys being upgrades on what we have.

To me, it looks like people are willing to trade just for the sake of saying we did something.

Also, it's going to be pretty tough getting much younger than the team we have... who are the old players on our team that are staying? Wallace (who knows if he can even play), Bass isn't 30, Bogans wont be here, and I may be forgetting someone but isn't most of our team 28 and younger? On any team you need experienced players.

i agree on your side, but if we removed faverani bass anthony and make sully kelly tyler our future bigs, we need to add more youth and put them as prospect player or bench players for the meantime, 3 bigs is not enough moving forward, man i wish we had kanter favors gobert like in utah....
if for example we trade a veteran player for a young player i mentioned then they add a pick would you do it? if a contending team wants rondo for 1st pick/2nd picks and lets say a young player would you do it?

hibbert to suns? yeah suns almost made it to playoffs but for dragic, i think that's too much
but hibbert in detroit, drummond smith hibbert make's no sense
trading hibbert to detroit is like trading granger to a team who will not make the playoffs while your current team makes it, but pacers might at least make it to 7 or 6 or even 5 seed


next season 2015-2016 there is a lot of bigs from college coming in nba.. but should we have one of this guys as back-up C or reserves, give them great value ask for a 1st round pick and rather draft a young SF next 2015-2016?

[MISSERY]

Younger players are not necessarily better players.

And Olynyk and Zeller are the same age or younger than some of the guys on your wish list.

my point is that if we are not making the playoffs this year, what's the point of having monroe hibbert sanders etc; then they might just leave soon and go to a contender....
i think rondo fits a contending team, if any team would offer me a 1st round picks i'd do it in a heartbeat, get more picks and get younger....
i read many post here and most trades are for center...so i'd rather have younger guys to have with 2years experienced coach and add to our young players who has potential young smart zeller kelly zully, we might not have a KD in a draft but moving forward with a lot of picks is good to have.... i see us competing uhm maybe 3 or 4 or 5 depending on who are we drafting
if pierce tries to come back after 2 years in DC well that's a good veteran leadership player to have in our team

Yea but the side you aren't looking at is playing time, we already have enough bigs that will need pt... if it was a guaranteed upgrade then of course you try to get that player but I don't see any of those guys being upgrades on what we have.

To me, it looks like people are willing to trade just for the sake of saying we did something.

Also, it's going to be pretty tough getting much younger than the team we have... who are the old players on our team that are staying? Wallace (who knows if he can even play), Bass isn't 30, Bogans wont be here, and I may be forgetting someone but isn't most of our team 28 and younger? On any team you need experienced players.

bass wallace rondo green belongs to a contending team and bogans type of players are just a fillers

if you say how to get playing time
lets make an example
would you start lopez as your C, put kg as back-up C and have plumlee as your 3rd?
if wizards add more SF since webster is out for a while and pierce is getting older, how would you develop potter without a playing time, its ok because that team is contending, if not?
if the sixers are in a tank mode, and example they got 3 Centers, would you give minutes for noel or those 2 veteran C since your team is not making the playoffs anyways?

if we add monroe or hibbert, how much playing time would you give for kelly and zeller?
maybe if we add more young players, who ever gets hot gets more playing time?

[Future Celtics Owner]

I'm glad to see Rudy Gobert mentioned. I would be extremely happy if we do a small trade to get him from the Jazz. IMO Gobert can possibly bring what Hibbert brings to the Pacers.

I also think Misery should have included Bismac Biyombu on the list. He's another guy like Gobert that the numbers per min and potential line up.