Is Hibbert available now that George is hurt?

[celticmania]

You guys are scavengers. Dude just got hurt balling for our country and you are thinking about how it may help us. It's way too soon.

[Beat LA]

Does he become more likely to be traded now ?

Give them Olynk , Young , Bogans , anthony and Clippers pick

PG: Rondo   / Smart
SG: AB         / Turner
SF: Green    / Wallace
PF: Sully      / Bass
 C: Hibbert   / Zellar

You're willing to give up James Young already?  He hasn't even played a minute for us yet. Jeesh.  Plus, you can't rebuild all at once, anyway.  Let's just sign Oden and/or Okafor and then wait for next year's draft, which is supposed to be loaded with big guys.  Year, by year, piece by piece is how rebuilding works.  Aren't you even the slightest bit interested in seeing Young play for the Celtics?  I know I am. 

[Who]

If Celtics swapped G.Wallace's contract (edit: plus Marcus Smart) for Hibbert's contract, they would still be in position to sign a max contract free agent.

How attractive would Boston be as a destination then?

That is a pretty nice foundation for a star to join. Two supporting stars in Rondo and Hibbert. A top playmaking PG who can get you the ball. A DPOY who protects the paint. Vacancy for a top scorer to round it out. Lots of quality role players in J.Green, A.Bradley and then Sully and Olynyk.

I think that is a very interesting situation to sell to big name FAs next summer.

[Beat LA]

You guys are scavengers. Dude just got hurt balling for our country and you are thinking about how it may help us. It's way too soon.

More like vultures

[Beat LA]

If Celtics swapped G.Wallace's contract for Hibbert's contract, they would still be in position to sign a max contract free agent.

How attractive would Boston be as a destination then?

That is a pretty nice foundation for a star to join. Two supporting stars in Rondo and Hibbert. A top playmaking PG who can get you the ball. A DPOY who protects the paint. Vacancy for a top scorer to round it out. Lots of quality role players in J.Green, A.Bradley and then Sully and Olynyk.

I think that is a very interesting situation to sell to big name FAs next summer.

Bird would never do that deal, nor would anyone else with a brain.  Now Chris Wallace on the other hand...  

I don't understand people on here sometimes - first it's always, "Hibbert is a piece of garbage," but now it's, "How can we get Hibbert?"   I've always liked the dude, but come on guys - consistency (sarcasm)

And for the last time - NO BIG NAME FREE AGENT IS COMING HERE!  Don't get your hopes up, unless of course you want to be greatly disappointed next summer.

[Who]

If Celtics swapped G.Wallace's contract for Hibbert's contract, they would still be in position to sign a max contract free agent.

How attractive would Boston be as a destination then?

That is a pretty nice foundation for a star to join. Two supporting stars in Rondo and Hibbert. A top playmaking PG who can get you the ball. A DPOY who protects the paint. Vacancy for a top scorer to round it out. Lots of quality role players in J.Green, A.Bradley and then Sully and Olynyk.

I think that is a very interesting situation to sell to big name FAs next summer.

Bird would never do that deal, nor would anyone else with a brain.  Now Chris Wallace on the other hand...   I don't understand people on here sometimes - first it's always, "Hibbert is a piece of garbage," but now it's, "How can we get Hibbert?"   I've always liked the dude, but come on guys - consistency (sarcasm)

It was with Marcus Smart. Smart + G.Wallace for Hibbert.

Sorry, I didn't mention it in that post. I said in a previous post in thread.

[BigAlTheFuture]

If Celtics swapped G.Wallace's contract for Hibbert's contract, they would still be in position to sign a max contract free agent.

How attractive would Boston be as a destination then?

That is a pretty nice foundation for a star to join. Two supporting stars in Rondo and Hibbert. A top playmaking PG who can get you the ball. A DPOY who protects the paint. Vacancy for a top scorer to round it out. Lots of quality role players in J.Green, A.Bradley and then Sully and Olynyk.

I think that is a very interesting situation to sell to big name FAs next summer.

I don't know... don't think Hibbert would sell any stars on joining us. Guy is more of a role player, not a star.

[Clench123]

He'll be fine.  It's not career ending injury and neither was it life threatening.  Many athletes have made comebacks from these injury with no problem at all.  This isn't the time of Joe Theisman.  The surgery is probably over already.  Yes, this benefits us.  This is an opportunist nation.  Time to move on

[Beat LA]

If Celtics swapped G.Wallace's contract for Hibbert's contract, they would still be in position to sign a max contract free agent.

How attractive would Boston be as a destination then?

That is a pretty nice foundation for a star to join. Two supporting stars in Rondo and Hibbert. A top playmaking PG who can get you the ball. A DPOY who protects the paint. Vacancy for a top scorer to round it out. Lots of quality role players in J.Green, A.Bradley and then Sully and Olynyk.

I think that is a very interesting situation to sell to big name FAs next summer.

I don't know... don't think Hibbert would sell any stars on joining us. Guy is more of a role player, not a star.

You do know that he's made an all star team, right?  Now is he a franchise player?  No, but he sure played like a star against the Knicks and Heat in 2013.  He dominated Miami, on both ends, regardless of who was playing him.  You've also got to factor in that true centers like him are so rare nowadays.  Plus, he's the key to their defense.  Bird isn't trading him, and neither would I.

[Who]

If Celtics swapped G.Wallace's contract for Hibbert's contract, they would still be in position to sign a max contract free agent.

How attractive would Boston be as a destination then?

That is a pretty nice foundation for a star to join. Two supporting stars in Rondo and Hibbert. A top playmaking PG who can get you the ball. A DPOY who protects the paint. Vacancy for a top scorer to round it out. Lots of quality role players in J.Green, A.Bradley and then Sully and Olynyk.

I think that is a very interesting situation to sell to big name FAs next summer.

I don't know... don't think Hibbert would sell any stars on joining us. Guy is more of a role player, not a star.

If you are a guy like K-Love - never had a shot-blocker alongside you or played on a strong defensive team -  I think a guy like Hibbert is something enticing to you.

Same with someone like Carmelo Anthony. He has seen first hand the value in having someone like Tyson Chandler next him. Knowing he has got a Roy Hibbert there. A guy who has won DPOY DPOY candidate and anchored the best defensive team in the league 2 years running. I think guys like Melo respect that.

Players like LeBron who has been forced into small finesse lineups for years. I am sure he'd love to play with a true center who can protect the basket and do all of the things a prototypical center does that he never had in Miami.

I think Hibbert has some cachet around the league. I think a lot of players want to play with a center who can do the things Hibbert does for a team defensively.

Roy Hibbert - by himself - I don't think offers great interest from FAs but on a winning team alongside a star player in Rondo and with strong depth / supporting cast. A ready made team for a FA to walk into and immediately become a top challenger in the East. I think adding Hibbert makes a really big difference to how attractive a destination Boston becomes in next year's FA class.

[Beat LA]

If Celtics swapped G.Wallace's contract for Hibbert's contract, they would still be in position to sign a max contract free agent.

How attractive would Boston be as a destination then?

That is a pretty nice foundation for a star to join. Two supporting stars in Rondo and Hibbert. A top playmaking PG who can get you the ball. A DPOY who protects the paint. Vacancy for a top scorer to round it out. Lots of quality role players in J.Green, A.Bradley and then Sully and Olynyk.

I think that is a very interesting situation to sell to big name FAs next summer.

Bird would never do that deal, nor would anyone else with a brain.  Now Chris Wallace on the other hand...   I don't understand people on here sometimes - first it's always, "Hibbert is a piece of garbage," but now it's, "How can we get Hibbert?"   I've always liked the dude, but come on guys - consistency (sarcasm)

It was with Marcus Smart. Smart + G.Wallace for Hibbert.

Sorry, I didn't mention it in that post. I said in a previous post in thread.

Oh.  My apologies, then.  I must have missed that post earlier.  Oops.

Anyway, while that is interesting, given Smart's favorable comparison to Stephenson, and on a rookie contract to boot, I'm pretty sure that Bird is dead-set against taking on a bad contract, even if the guy could still play pretty effectively, which Wallace can't.  I just don't see how the deal would make sense for Indy, honestly.

[Csfan1984]

You guys are scavengers. Dude just got hurt balling for our country and you are thinking about how it may help us. It's way too soon.

More like vultures

More like cannibals 

[Beat LA]

If Celtics swapped G.Wallace's contract for Hibbert's contract, they would still be in position to sign a max contract free agent.

How attractive would Boston be as a destination then?

That is a pretty nice foundation for a star to join. Two supporting stars in Rondo and Hibbert. A top playmaking PG who can get you the ball. A DPOY who protects the paint. Vacancy for a top scorer to round it out. Lots of quality role players in J.Green, A.Bradley and then Sully and Olynyk.

I think that is a very interesting situation to sell to big name FAs next summer.

I don't know... don't think Hibbert would sell any stars on joining us. Guy is more of a role player, not a star.

If you are a guy like K-Love - never had a shot-blocker alongside you or played on a strong defensive team -  I think a guy like Hibbert is something enticing to you.

Same with someone like Carmelo Anthony. He has seen first hand the value in having someone like Tyson Chandler next him. Knowing he has got a Roy Hibbert there. A guy who has won DPOY and anchored the best defensive team in the league 2 years running. I think guys like Melo respect that.

Players like LeBron who has been forced into small finesse lineups for years. I am sure he'd love to play with a true center who can protect the basket and do all of the things a prototypical center does that he never had in Miami.

I think Hibbert has some cachet around the league. I think a lot of players want to play with a center who can do the things Hibbert does for a team defensively.

Roy Hibbert - by himself - I don't think offers great interest from FAs but on a winning team alongside a star player in Rondo and with strong depth / supporting cast. A ready made team for a FA to walk into and immediately become a top challenger in the East. I think adding Hibbert makes a really big difference to how attractive a destination Boston becomes in next year's FA class.

I'm sorry, I hate to rain on your parade, but Hibbert has never won the DPOY award, but yes, he has anchored the league's best defense for the past 2 seasons.  I completely agree with your point about stars like Love wanting to play with a shot blocker, but it's not all about defense - Hibbert is an excellent inside player.  Don't undervalue (not saying that you are) the ability to score inside, especially in the postseason.  I'm a basketball purist, so I long for the days of true big men, and Hibbert is one of them, but I just don't see him coming here, via free agency or a trade   which is why I want Oden.

[Who]

If Celtics swapped G.Wallace's contract for Hibbert's contract, they would still be in position to sign a max contract free agent.

How attractive would Boston be as a destination then?

That is a pretty nice foundation for a star to join. Two supporting stars in Rondo and Hibbert. A top playmaking PG who can get you the ball. A DPOY who protects the paint. Vacancy for a top scorer to round it out. Lots of quality role players in J.Green, A.Bradley and then Sully and Olynyk.

I think that is a very interesting situation to sell to big name FAs next summer.

I don't know... don't think Hibbert would sell any stars on joining us. Guy is more of a role player, not a star.

If you are a guy like K-Love - never had a shot-blocker alongside you or played on a strong defensive team -  I think a guy like Hibbert is something enticing to you.

Same with someone like Carmelo Anthony. He has seen first hand the value in having someone like Tyson Chandler next him. Knowing he has got a Roy Hibbert there. A guy who has won DPOY and anchored the best defensive team in the league 2 years running. I think guys like Melo respect that.

Players like LeBron who has been forced into small finesse lineups for years. I am sure he'd love to play with a true center who can protect the basket and do all of the things a prototypical center does that he never had in Miami.

I think Hibbert has some cachet around the league. I think a lot of players want to play with a center who can do the things Hibbert does for a team defensively.

Roy Hibbert - by himself - I don't think offers great interest from FAs but on a winning team alongside a star player in Rondo and with strong depth / supporting cast. A ready made team for a FA to walk into and immediately become a top challenger in the East. I think adding Hibbert makes a really big difference to how attractive a destination Boston becomes in next year's FA class.

I'm sorry, I hate to rain on your parade, but Hibbert has never won the DPOY award, but yes, he has anchored the league's best defense for the past 2 seasons.  I completely agree with your point about stars like Love wanting to play with a shot blocker, but it's not all about defense - Hibbert is an excellent inside player.  Don't undervalue (not saying that you are) the ability to score inside, especially in the postseason.  I'm a basketball purist, so I long for the days of true big men, and Hibbert is one of them, but I just don't see him coming here, via free agency or a trade   which is why I want Oden.

Oh yeah, right. It was Marc Gasol and then Joakim Noah. I could have sworn Hibbert got one of those after all the high praise and attention he has gotten for his defense over last two years. No DPOYs for Hibbert (yet!).

Edit: I find those guy's DPOY season kinda forgettable to be honest. Indiana Pacers as a team and Roy Hibbert as an individual are the big story, the memory that stands out, as the most dominant defensive performance of last two years. In 5+ years time, when I think back at these past two seasons, I fully expect the team and the player that are going to jump to the forefront of my mind for their defensive performances are Indiana and Roy Hibbert.

Noah has been pretty much doing the same thing for 4-5 years now defensively. Playing on a middle of the pack team. Last year doesn't stand out as any better than previous years (as defender only). Marc Gasol playing in low media attention NBA city in Memphis + has less defensive talent around him so doesn't make quite as much noise as Indiana have done defensively (which helps shine more spotlight Hibbert). Individual performance just as good as HIbbert but I don't think he gets same attention as Hibbert. Why I find their DPOYs somewhat forgettable (unfairly or not). 

[Beat LA]

If Celtics swapped G.Wallace's contract for Hibbert's contract, they would still be in position to sign a max contract free agent.

How attractive would Boston be as a destination then?

That is a pretty nice foundation for a star to join. Two supporting stars in Rondo and Hibbert. A top playmaking PG who can get you the ball. A DPOY who protects the paint. Vacancy for a top scorer to round it out. Lots of quality role players in J.Green, A.Bradley and then Sully and Olynyk.

I think that is a very interesting situation to sell to big name FAs next summer.

I don't know... don't think Hibbert would sell any stars on joining us. Guy is more of a role player, not a star.

If you are a guy like K-Love - never had a shot-blocker alongside you or played on a strong defensive team -  I think a guy like Hibbert is something enticing to you.

Same with someone like Carmelo Anthony. He has seen first hand the value in having someone like Tyson Chandler next him. Knowing he has got a Roy Hibbert there. A guy who has won DPOY and anchored the best defensive team in the league 2 years running. I think guys like Melo respect that.

Players like LeBron who has been forced into small finesse lineups for years. I am sure he'd love to play with a true center who can protect the basket and do all of the things a prototypical center does that he never had in Miami.

I think Hibbert has some cachet around the league. I think a lot of players want to play with a center who can do the things Hibbert does for a team defensively.

Roy Hibbert - by himself - I don't think offers great interest from FAs but on a winning team alongside a star player in Rondo and with strong depth / supporting cast. A ready made team for a FA to walk into and immediately become a top challenger in the East. I think adding Hibbert makes a really big difference to how attractive a destination Boston becomes in next year's FA class.

I'm sorry, I hate to rain on your parade, but Hibbert has never won the DPOY award, but yes, he has anchored the league's best defense for the past 2 seasons.  I completely agree with your point about stars like Love wanting to play with a shot blocker, but it's not all about defense - Hibbert is an excellent inside player.  Don't undervalue (not saying that you are) the ability to score inside, especially in the postseason.  I'm a basketball purist, so I long for the days of true big men, and Hibbert is one of them, but I just don't see him coming here, via free agency or a trade   which is why I want Oden.

Oh yeah, right. It was Marc Gasol and then Joakim Noah. I could have sworn Hibbert got one of those after all the high praise and attention he has gotten for his defense over last two years. No DPOYs for Hibbert (yet!).

Edit: I find those guy's DPOY season kinda forgettable to be honest. Indiana Pacers as a team and Roy Hibbert as an individual are the big story, the memory that stands out, as the most dominant defensive performance of last two years. In 5+ years time, when I think back at these past two seasons, I fully expect the team and the player that are going to jump to the forefront of my mind for their defensive performances are Indiana and Roy Hibbert.

Oh I completely agree, I just felt the need to point that out.  If not me, then someone else would have.  Sorry if I came off as argumentative, btw. 

Anyway, with the way Indiana started the year, yeah, Hibbert was the prohibitive favorite to win the defensive player of the year award, and then the wheels came off.  It's kind of remarkable how great he's been, defensively, given that he has Faverani-like lateral quickness, which is why I'm wondering why we couldn't find a way to use Fav in a similar way to how the Pacers use Hibbert.  Not that they're the same player, of course, but Vitor did show some great defensive ability early on.

Also, I wonder what would have happened if we could have traded Perk and/or someone/something else for the pick needed to get Hibbert on draft night.  It would have been awesome to see him play alongside KG.  Sigh.