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Old poster's idea to fix lottery
« on: July 30, 2014, 06:50:55 PM »

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Keep it a lottery

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with two months to go announce which bottom 14 teams will be eligible for the draft lottery which will be weighted

After the season flip a coin to decide if the order of the weight will be based on wins or losses....

meaning 50% of the time the team with the best win percentage of the bottom 14 teams in the last two months will get the best odds.....the other half of the time it will go the other way

Re: Old poster's idea to fix lottery
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2014, 06:57:09 PM »

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Or just reward the team that flopped the least

Re: Old poster's idea to fix lottery
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2014, 09:40:51 PM »

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I resubmit my concept.

Re: Old poster's idea to fix lottery
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2014, 09:19:53 PM »

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Because I have nothing better to do. Tell me what you think about this idea:

The actual implementation of the draft lottery itself (the amount of "ping pong balls" distributed and the way the are drawn) would work the same way, but the way we determine the slots for the lottery would.

The selection of the Lottery Slots would take place in a separate raffle. The bottom 5 teams would receive a number of "raffle tickets" equal to the amount of wins they finish with. Those raffle tickets would then be used to determine the slot for the Draft Lottery for the top 5 lottery positions. The lottery would then go as usual. We could do a separate raffle to determine Lottery Positions 6-10 as well. 

Picks that have been traded would exempt from this part of the process and fall into their natural slot.

This incentivizes competition throughout all tiers of the standings, while still guaranteeing the lower teams an advantage in the lottery.

Last year that would have amounted to this break down in "raffle tickets" to determine who received the first slot for the draft lottery:

TEAM           -       WINS   -   %
Jazz           -       25   -   23.4%
Celts           -       25   -   23.4%
Magic   -       23   -   21.5%
Sixers   -       19   -   17.8%
Bucks   -       15   -   14.0%
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2014, 09:28:16 PM »

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Teams are currently scratching and clawing to be the worst they can be just to gain a few percentage points better odds of winning the lottery.  Most of the time the best odds lose anyhow.  Why not have them scratch and claw to better their odds by winning some games?
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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2014, 09:32:34 PM »

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Re: Old poster's idea to fix lottery
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2014, 09:47:26 PM »

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Keep it a lottery

hooowwweevvverrr

with two months to go announce which bottom 14 teams will be eligible for the draft lottery which will be weighted

After the season flip a coin to decide if the order of the weight will be based on wins or losses....

meaning 50% of the time the team with the best win percentage of the bottom 14 teams in the last two months will get the best odds.....the other half of the time it will go the other way
i like the basic idea of rewarding wins instead of loses. a very similar idea was to start the "most wins get the best pick" clock once the first team was eliminated mathematically from the playoffs. only those wins after the elimination count. as each team is eliminated, its "win clock" starts.

at the end of the season, the team with the most non-playoff wins, gets the first pick and so on.
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2014, 10:24:31 PM »

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I'm of the belief that something should be broke before you bother trying to fix it.

You don't think the tanking is out of control?
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Re: Old poster's idea to fix lottery
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2014, 10:35:38 PM »

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I'm of the belief that something should be broke before you bother trying to fix it.

You don't think the tanking is out of control?

I think the use of the term tanking is out of control; the only team that's really flouting the rules is Philly.  Other teams are just rebuilding as teams have done for a long time - there's maybe a greater tendency to prefer future assets now, but the league can't really point fingers since they scuttled the first Chris Paul trade to do exactly that.

I do support flattening the odds in the lottery, but that's just because I dislike the weighting on the current system, not because of how teams are behaving now.