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Will Sully improve on his 3's next season?

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Re: Will Sully become less or more efficient at shooting 3's?
« Reply #45 on: July 31, 2014, 07:38:42 PM »

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Maybe the coaches and much of most front office personnel can all see that the game has changed, especially for the "big man".

Shaq forced the game to change the rules to possibly to "make it more fair game" or more of an "even playing field" for the rest of the league.

These rule changes have hurt all big men. Forced big men to turn into "stretch 4's"

If "prime" Olajuwon was playing in the league today, he'd crush every inside, all of them, and he'd become a much more capable "stretch" whatever, 4 or 5. It would be totally unfair if Hakeem were to play today.

Re: Will Sully become less or more efficient at shooting 3's?
« Reply #46 on: July 31, 2014, 07:57:51 PM »

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Hakeem pretty much crushed everyone while he was playing.  I don't see how he would be better nowadays other than the fact the defenders aren't as used to guarding post up guys. 

Re: Will Sully become less or more efficient at shooting 3's?
« Reply #47 on: July 31, 2014, 08:29:46 PM »

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These rule changes have hurt all big men. Forced big men to turn into "stretch 4's"

I'd argue that this is a good thing.
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Re: Will Sully become less or more efficient at shooting 3's?
« Reply #48 on: July 31, 2014, 09:55:55 PM »

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I don't get how it's a bad thing that he's trying to become a better 3pt shooter, you can take/make as many 3s as you want in practice, you need game reps too... I have seen a lot of ppl make them in practice who can't in game. 3s and fts are different but in practice, Shaq looked like Ray at the line.

As far as rebounding goes, I wouldn't hate if he rebounds at the same rate but with extended minutes... people talking about Hump and DWest, they don't take many 3s (what did Hump take 2 all season lol), yet Sully still rbs equally or better than both of them while jacking and missing many 3s. If he becomes a better 3pt shooter (same rate rb), how is that a bad thing? If he proves that he can't make them after practice AND live action then they will make him stop... you don't stop him after his first season of really going for it. This season will be the make or break for him as far as the 3 goes, if I had to guess.
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Re: Will Sully become less or more efficient at shooting 3's?
« Reply #49 on: August 01, 2014, 03:15:30 AM »

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I think he will end up a much better shooter than he was last year. He has good mechanics, but his shot can sometimes be a little flat, which to me is more about conditioning than anything. I expect him to come into camp in slightly better shape which should improve his shooting.

 Exactly.  He makes them in practice.  But when hes tired from running and banging his conditioning gets the best of him.  Fatigue makes cowards of us all.  With his back surgery he was not able to get in full shape plus I think conditioning has been an issue for him always. If he drops the 20 pounds that he says he wants to drop before camp he will be a beast and his 3pt % will increase as well.  The shot starts at the feet and legs and 20 less pounds along with better conditioning can be a big deal.
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Re: Will Sully become less or more efficient at shooting 3's?
« Reply #50 on: August 01, 2014, 04:21:54 AM »

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I had a lot of hope for Sully this off season. But after watching the video of him being 280-290 and saying he does not need to lose weight just get fit and condition......that horrified me.

Now I am very scared he may hurt his back .

Re: Will Sully become less or more efficient at shooting 3's?
« Reply #51 on: August 02, 2014, 12:20:47 AM »

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I don't get how it's a bad thing that he's trying to become a better 3pt shooter, you can take/make as many 3s as you want in practice, you need game reps too...

No one would be upset if he became a better 3 pt shooter - please find the quote where someone is arguing that point.

But plenty of people are concerned about the amount of time he spends away for the blocks, near the perimeter. So those of us who would like to see our F/C near the basket more often than not would love it if he focused on developing around-the-basket type skills, rather than 3 point shooting.  Make sense?

Re: Will Sully become less or more efficient at shooting 3's?
« Reply #52 on: August 02, 2014, 12:37:10 AM »

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I don't get how it's a bad thing that he's trying to become a better 3pt shooter, you can take/make as many 3s as you want in practice, you need game reps too...

No one would be upset if he became a better 3 pt shooter - please find the quote where someone is arguing that point.

But plenty of people are concerned about the amount of time he spends away for the blocks, near the perimeter. So those of us who would like to see our F/C near the basket more often than not would love it if he focused on developing around-the-basket type skills, rather than 3 point shooting.  Make sense?

I never said people would be upset but he can't get better at it without taking them! Make sense?

You can want him near the basket all you want but the important people, the ones whose opinions really matter, want him to become a better 3 point shooter. They keep picking up stretch bigs, while a lot of you keep asking for the type of bigs it's becoming obvious they don't want.

I still don't get why he can't focus on multiple things, it's as if you're saying he has to choose. His job gives him 6 months off to train all he wants, he doesn't have to give up working on 3s to continue getting better inside, he can do both.
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Re: Will Sully become less or more efficient at shooting 3's?
« Reply #53 on: August 02, 2014, 12:44:31 AM »

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I don't get how it's a bad thing that he's trying to become a better 3pt shooter, you can take/make as many 3s as you want in practice, you need game reps too...

No one would be upset if he became a better 3 pt shooter - please find the quote where someone is arguing that point.

But plenty of people are concerned about the amount of time he spends away for the blocks, near the perimeter. So those of us who would like to see our F/C near the basket more often than not would love it if he focused on developing around-the-basket type skills, rather than 3 point shooting.  Make sense?

I never said people would be upset but he can't get better at it without taking them! Make sense?

You can want him near the basket all you want but the important people, the ones whose opinions really matter, want him to become a better 3 point shooter. They keep picking up stretch bigs, while a lot of you keep asking for the type of bigs it's becoming obvious they don't want.

I still don't get why he can't focus on multiple things, it's as if you're saying he has to choose. His job gives him 6 months off to train all he wants, he doesn't have to give up working on 3s to continue getting better inside, he can do both.

I think people worried about him not being able to rebound, shouldn't be so worried... If there is something Sully is good at, its rebounding. He has a natural instinct/knack for it. I would rather have Sully knock down or perfect his 3's, than being able to 'rebound.' A stretch 4 that can rebound is a deadly player to have in any NBA team. There is a reason why Kevin Love is such a sought after player.
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Re: Will Sully become less or more efficient at shooting 3's?
« Reply #54 on: August 02, 2014, 12:51:01 AM »

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Kevin love is sought after because he does lots of things extremely well. Jared sullinger is not in the neighborhood of Kevin love in loads of those things. If all of a sudden Jared sullinger is able to produce 3pt numbers like Kevin love, he still won't be the same player - because of all the other things love does.

Right now Sullinger is a good post presence. He is able to pass from the block and rebound well. If he worked on that portion of his game he could become among the best in the league.

How long would he need to work on his three point shot to be among the league leaders in that category?

Re: Will Sully become less or more efficient at shooting 3's?
« Reply #55 on: August 02, 2014, 01:08:27 AM »

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Right now Sullinger is a good post presence. He is able to pass from the block and rebound well. If he worked on that portion of his game he could become among the best in the league.

That is what we need him to do.

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I would rather have Sully knock down or perfect his 3's,

You would rather have?   Are you aware he shot .27% from there?   That kind of shooting is so awful it helps the other team.   He is so far away from perfecting them if I was on the team and I saw him set up there, I would not pass it to him because I like to do a thing called winning. 

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You can want him near the basket all you want but the important people, the ones whose opinions really matter, want him to become a better 3 point shooter. They keep picking up stretch bigs, while a lot of you keep asking for the type of bigs it's becoming obvious they don't want.

Hmmm.  Weren't we tanking last year.   Do you think it was part of the plan to develop range and maybe lose some games?  DA gave him some instructions for the offseason and it was get in the best shape of his life, nothing about shooting threes.  I suspect though with summer fireworks being a dud, he may be shooting them again to help with the tankage.

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I still don't get why he can't focus on multiple things, it's as if you're saying he has to choose. His job gives him 6 months off to train all he wants, he doesn't have to give up working on 3s to continue getting better inside, he can do both.

He has specialist talent  (low post play) and should focus there.   He is a not a multi-dimensional talent guy.   

There is a reason he is not playing white or blue earlier tonight and is that he is not a top level NBA guy in peoples eyes outside of Boston.  Roy Hibbert thinks he will be great though and we all know how good of a scout and player Roy is folks.  Our best player, Rondo, was not good enough to make the USA  team so he dropped out to save face.   

He can do both just NOT WELL.   .27% do you get that is how many he makes out of 100?

Since you do not get it perhaps a graphic would help you.

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