Currently which lineup is better? Lakers or Celtics

[D.o.s.]

Did someone really say AB is better than Kobe ? I'm done.

I'd take AB before Kobe in 2014.

Obviously it isn't even a comparison if we're talking historical anything.

[Adelaide Celt]

I think the Lakers' team is slightly better but you know Kobe is going to skip plenty of games next year. He enjoyed scoffing at the team and mocking them a bit from the sidelines last season. He's not going to enjoy being a bigger part of it.

Being that the Lakers only get their 2015 draft pick if it's in the top 5, do people see them getting a bad enough record to claim that? If not which 5 teams are going to keep them out?

[celticmania]

Did someone really say AB is better than Kobe ? I'm done.

I'd take AB before Kobe in 2014.

Obviously it isn't even a comparison if we're talking historical anything.

In the words of my dear friend Stephen A. Smith, that is blasphemous. AB won't better than Kobe until Kobe is like 50 yrs old. Idc if Kobe is 35 and coming of surgery. Avery isn't even in Kobes league

[hwangjini_1]

Celtics = 30-35 win team
Lakers = 20-25 win team

Boston won 25 games last year.  We added some players on our bench this year like Smart and Zeller... now you think we're going to win 10 more games than last year?

Lakers won 27 games last year.  They replaced Pau Gasol with Kobe Bryant, Carlos Boozer, Jeremy Lin, Julius Randle and Ed Davis... You think they'll going to win 7 less games than last year?

I don't think people are grasping just how bad this Celtic team is.   We were 6-24 in the games Rondo played.  That's a 16 win pace.  We didn't improve on any of our major needs.  Smart should be a nice player, but at the moment he's redundant with one of our few strengths.

* Rondo was fairly awful last season when he returned from injury. I am expecting him to play better next season.
* I thought Boston underachieved very badly last season. In large part due to Rondo's late return and poor performance after coming back from injury.
* Celtics have a bit more depth and balance with Zeller and Smart on board.
* Kobe Bryant is coming off one of the worst injuries an NBA player can suffer with a torn achilles. I am expecting him to play very badly next season. I do not think Bryant is a player who will handle his diminished capacities well and I expect him to cause problems for LAL.
* I don't think Randle is an NBA ready player. I think he needs to redefine his entire game to succeed in the NBA. Thus, I expect him to struggle (similar to Thomas Robinson).
* Ed Davis is a journeyman PF who would be a 4th string PF on the Celtics behind Bass, Sully and Olynyk. Good defender but not offensive game.
* Sully and Boozer are pretty much equal players at this junction in their respective careers.
* I do like Jeremy Lin. He is an improvement for LAL.

Edit: Actually, I think I have LAL too low. I had them pegged at 20-25 wins a few days before they added Boozer. I should have bumped them up a bit higher after adding Boozer. So I'll go 25-30 wins now. Still behind Boston.

yes, well, he may very well play better. but it still doesn't address the interesting, and under discussed, point that for the past two year REGARDLESS OF WHETHER RONDO WAS INJURED OR NOT the celtics won more game without rondo than with rondo. and not just total game, their actual winning percentage was better without rondo even the season he was injured.

discuss.

[Aymanelgowainy]

Celtics = 30-35 win team
Lakers = 20-25 win team

Boston won 25 games last year.  We added some players on our bench this year like Smart and Zeller... now you think we're going to win 10 more games than last year?

Lakers won 27 games last year.  They replaced Pau Gasol with Kobe Bryant, Carlos Boozer, Jeremy Lin, Julius Randle and Ed Davis... You think they'll going to win 7 less games than last year?

I don't think people are grasping just how bad this Celtic team is.   We were 6-24 in the games Rondo played.  That's a 16 win pace.  We didn't improve on any of our major needs.  Smart should be a nice player, but at the moment he's redundant with one of our few strengths.

U really need to stop with this nonsense! If the Celtics had tried, they wouldve easily been a playoff team with or without Rondo... Same case again this year... Just stop.

[Tr1boy]

Celtics = 30-35 win team
Lakers = 20-25 win team

Boston won 25 games last year.  We added some players on our bench this year like Smart and Zeller... now you think we're going to win 10 more games than last year?

Lakers won 27 games last year.  They replaced Pau Gasol with Kobe Bryant, Carlos Boozer, Jeremy Lin, Julius Randle and Ed Davis... You think they'll going to win 7 less games than last year?

I don't think people are grasping just how bad this Celtic team is.   We were 6-24 in the games Rondo played.  That's a 16 win pace.  We didn't improve on any of our major needs.  Smart should be a nice player, but at the moment he's redundant with one of our few strengths.

* Rondo was fairly awful last season when he returned from injury. I am expecting him to play better next season.
* I thought Boston underachieved very badly last season. In large part due to Rondo's late return and poor performance after coming back from injury.
* Celtics have a bit more depth and balance with Zeller and Smart on board.
* Kobe Bryant is coming off one of the worst injuries an NBA player can suffer with a torn achilles. I am expecting him to play very badly next season. I do not think Bryant is a player who will handle his diminished capacities well and I expect him to cause problems for LAL.
* I don't think Randle is an NBA ready player. I think he needs to redefine his entire game to succeed in the NBA. Thus, I expect him to struggle (similar to Thomas Robinson).
* Ed Davis is a journeyman PF who would be a 4th string PF on the Celtics behind Bass, Sully and Olynyk. Good defender but not offensive game.
* Sully and Boozer are pretty much equal players at this junction in their respective careers.
* I do like Jeremy Lin. He is an improvement for LAL.

Edit: Actually, I think I have LAL too low. I had them pegged at 20-25 wins a few days before they added Boozer. I should have bumped them up a bit higher after adding Boozer. So I'll go 25-30 wins now. Still behind Boston.

yes, well, he may very well play better. but it still doesn't address the interesting, and under discussed, point that for the past two year REGARDLESS OF WHETHER RONDO WAS INJURED OR NOT the celtics won more game without rondo than with rondo. and not just total game, their actual winning percentage was better without rondo even the season he was injured.

discuss.

Yeah but rondo once scored 44 pts vs the miami heat in the playoffs. Nothing else matters.

Honestly though what you said is the truth. No more excuses, Rondo has to play out of his mind this upcoming season. He needs a 40 pt game

[green147]

Lakers are better now, but only Randle should be thought of as a player for them in the future. Smart, AB, Rondo, Young, KO and Sully could all be big parts of our future as a successful team. I know I'm biased, but I'm rolling with that green franchise. 

[Fred Roberts]

Celts will run them off the floor. Night night. Swaggy P? I'd rather have Chris Johnson.

[MBunge]

Celtics = 30-35 win team
Lakers = 20-25 win team

Boston won 25 games last year.  We added some players on our bench this year like Smart and Zeller... now you think we're going to win 10 more games than last year?

Lakers won 27 games last year.  They replaced Pau Gasol with Kobe Bryant, Carlos Boozer, Jeremy Lin, Julius Randle and Ed Davis... You think they'll going to win 7 less games than last year?

I don't think people are grasping just how bad this Celtic team is.   We were 6-24 in the games Rondo played.  That's a 16 win pace.  We didn't improve on any of our major needs.  Smart should be a nice player, but at the moment he's redundant with one of our few strengths.

* Rondo was fairly awful last season when he returned from injury. I am expecting him to play better next season.
* I thought Boston underachieved very badly last season. In large part due to Rondo's late return and poor performance after coming back from injury.
* Celtics have a bit more depth and balance with Zeller and Smart on board.
* Kobe Bryant is coming off one of the worst injuries an NBA player can suffer with a torn achilles. I am expecting him to play very badly next season. I do not think Bryant is a player who will handle his diminished capacities well and I expect him to cause problems for LAL.
* I don't think Randle is an NBA ready player. I think he needs to redefine his entire game to succeed in the NBA. Thus, I expect him to struggle (similar to Thomas Robinson).
* Ed Davis is a journeyman PF who would be a 4th string PF on the Celtics behind Bass, Sully and Olynyk. Good defender but not offensive game.
* Sully and Boozer are pretty much equal players at this junction in their respective careers.
* I do like Jeremy Lin. He is an improvement for LAL.

Edit: Actually, I think I have LAL too low. I had them pegged at 20-25 wins a few days before they added Boozer. I should have bumped them up a bit higher after adding Boozer. So I'll go 25-30 wins now. Still behind Boston.

yes, well, he may very well play better. but it still doesn't address the interesting, and under discussed, point that for the past two year REGARDLESS OF WHETHER RONDO WAS INJURED OR NOT the celtics won more game without rondo than with rondo. and not just total game, their actual winning percentage was better without rondo even the season he was injured.

discuss.

Yeah, judging a guy on half a season before he got hurt and less than half a season when he comes back is the right thing to do.  Everything else he did before that should rightly be irrelevant.

Mike

[action781]

I can't believe we're seriously discussing which non-playoff team lineup is going to be better.  You guys all deserve TPs for being such die hard fans.

The next questions that are most pressing to be decided: 
Which team will finish with the better 2014-15 record -- the Orlando Magic or the Utah Jazz? 
Who would you rather sign to a max contract -- Eric Gordon or Josh Smith?
Who will have the more successful NBA career -- Clint Capela or Bruno Caboclo?

[bleedGREENdon]

Did someone really say AB is better than Kobe ? I'm done.

He's getting paid like it ****ooo

[colincb]

We're closer to the next ring than they are.

[Csfan1984]

Lakers are better short term.

[CM0]

Unless Kobe puts up numbers like he did 5 year ago, the Celtics are a better and deeper team. That plus the fact that the Celtics are in the Atlantic means 10 more wins.

[BballTim]

Celtics = 30-35 win team
Lakers = 20-25 win team

Boston won 25 games last year.  We added some players on our bench this year like Smart and Zeller... now you think we're going to win 10 more games than last year?

Lakers won 27 games last year.  They replaced Pau Gasol with Kobe Bryant, Carlos Boozer, Jeremy Lin, Julius Randle and Ed Davis... You think they'll going to win 7 less games than last year?

I don't think people are grasping just how bad this Celtic team is.   We were 6-24 in the games Rondo played.  That's a 16 win pace.  We didn't improve on any of our major needs.  Smart should be a nice player, but at the moment he's redundant with one of our few strengths.

* Rondo was fairly awful last season when he returned from injury. I am expecting him to play better next season.
* I thought Boston underachieved very badly last season. In large part due to Rondo's late return and poor performance after coming back from injury.
* Celtics have a bit more depth and balance with Zeller and Smart on board.
* Kobe Bryant is coming off one of the worst injuries an NBA player can suffer with a torn achilles. I am expecting him to play very badly next season. I do not think Bryant is a player who will handle his diminished capacities well and I expect him to cause problems for LAL.
* I don't think Randle is an NBA ready player. I think he needs to redefine his entire game to succeed in the NBA. Thus, I expect him to struggle (similar to Thomas Robinson).
* Ed Davis is a journeyman PF who would be a 4th string PF on the Celtics behind Bass, Sully and Olynyk. Good defender but not offensive game.
* Sully and Boozer are pretty much equal players at this junction in their respective careers.
* I do like Jeremy Lin. He is an improvement for LAL.

Edit: Actually, I think I have LAL too low. I had them pegged at 20-25 wins a few days before they added Boozer. I should have bumped them up a bit higher after adding Boozer. So I'll go 25-30 wins now. Still behind Boston.

yes, well, he may very well play better. but it still doesn't address the interesting, and under discussed, point that for the past two year REGARDLESS OF WHETHER RONDO WAS INJURED OR NOT the celtics won more game without rondo than with rondo. and not just total game, their actual winning percentage was better without rondo even the season he was injured.

discuss.

  Are you new here? That's under-discussed the same way Kevin Love trade ideas have been under-discussed.

  discuss.