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Re: Currently which lineup is better? Lakers or Celtics
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2014, 07:57:38 PM »

Offline LarBrd33

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Celtics = 30-35 win team
Lakers = 20-25 win team
Boston won 25 games last year.  We added some players on our bench this year like Smart and Zeller... now you think we're going to win 10 more games than last year?

Lakers won 27 games last year.  They replaced Pau Gasol with Kobe Bryant, Carlos Boozer, Jeremy Lin, Julius Randle and Ed Davis... You think they'll going to win 7 less games than last year?

I don't think people are grasping just how bad this Celtic team is.   We were 6-24 in the games Rondo played.  That's a 16 win pace.  We didn't improve on any of our major needs.  Smart should be a nice player, but at the moment he's redundant with one of our few strengths.

That's the problem when you overstate Kobe's health and understate Rondo's health. That's the first of the various things that you went wrong with.
If Kobe isn't healthy, Lakers should be pretty terrible.   Not disagreeing with that. 

Re: Currently which lineup is better? Lakers or Celtics
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2014, 08:02:06 PM »

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Celtics = 30-35 win team
Lakers = 20-25 win team
Boston won 25 games last year.  We added some players on our bench this year like Smart and Zeller... now you think we're going to win 10 more games than last year?

Lakers won 27 games last year.  They replaced Pau Gasol with Kobe Bryant, Carlos Boozer, Jeremy Lin, Julius Randle and Ed Davis... You think they'll going to win 7 less games than last year?

I don't think people are grasping just how bad this Celtic team is.   We were 6-24 in the games Rondo played.  That's a 16 win pace.  We didn't improve on any of our major needs.  Smart should be a nice player, but at the moment he's redundant with one of our few strengths.

* Rondo was fairly awful last season when he returned from injury. I am expecting him to play better next season.
* I thought Boston underachieved very badly last season. In large part due to Rondo's late return and poor performance after coming back from injury.
* Celtics have a bit more depth and balance with Zeller and Smart on board.
* Kobe Bryant is coming off one of the worst injuries an NBA player can suffer with a torn achilles. I am expecting him to play very badly next season. I do not think Bryant is a player who will handle his diminished capacities well and I expect him to cause problems for LAL.
* I don't think Randle is an NBA ready player. I think he needs to redefine his entire game to succeed in the NBA. Thus, I expect him to struggle (similar to Thomas Robinson).
* Ed Davis is a journeyman PF who would be a 4th string PF on the Celtics behind Bass, Sully and Olynyk. Good defender but not offensive game.
* Sully and Boozer are pretty much equal players at this junction in their respective careers.
* I do like Jeremy Lin. He is an improvement for LAL.

Edit: Actually, I think I have LAL too low. I had them pegged at 20-25 wins a few days before they added Boozer. I should have bumped them up a bit higher after adding Boozer. So I'll go 25-30 wins now. Still behind Boston.
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Re: Currently which lineup is better? Lakers or Celtics
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2014, 08:21:56 PM »

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Lakers are about 5-10 more wins to me and around the 35-40 win mark.
Both teams cling to the health of their stars in Rondo and Kobe.
Lakers don't have a true centre but Zeller vs Davis is basically a wash.


Jeremy Lin
Kobe
Nick young
Boozer
Jordan Hill

Randle, Ed Davis off bench.

Rondo
Bradley
Green
Sully/Olynyk
Zeller

Smart, young

I don't care though because neither team is making the playoffs and id much rather have our young talent and picks for the future over good role players at every position.
If our squad was 2-3 seasons older we'd destroy them.
Lakers fans are in for a rough few years hahaha.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2014, 10:38:01 PM by chambers »
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Read that last line again. One more time.

Re: Currently which lineup is better? Lakers or Celtics
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2014, 08:22:29 PM »

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Yall know Lakers are going to be better than yall think
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I will be wacthing this team

Re: Currently which lineup is better? Lakers or Celtics
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2014, 08:43:32 PM »

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I think the Lakers lineup is better. If they are healthy they will probably kick our butts  :(

The Lakers might end with a worse record because the west is still far better than the east. Now that Miami is dismantled, the top 7 teams are all in the West.

Kobe  >> Bradley
Lin / Nash << Rondo / Smart
Boozer / Randle >> Sullinger / Bass
Hill / Sacre > Zeller / Olynyk
Young / Jack Nicholson   < Green / Wallace

lakers have a small edge, and are also not done filling their roster. They are more experienced, have much better shooting, are better up front, have go to guys in the last 4 minutes of a close game, and Kobe will get more calls than the Celtics best scorer.

Re: Currently which lineup is better? Lakers or Celtics
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2014, 08:57:26 PM »

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Re: Currently which lineup is better? Lakers or Celtics
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2014, 08:57:48 PM »

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Re: Currently which lineup is better? Lakers or Celtics
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2014, 08:57:57 PM »

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Lakers are better but it will hurt them in the long run as Kobe may drag them into the playoffs.

Re: Currently which lineup is better? Lakers or Celtics
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2014, 09:03:22 PM »

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Lakers present better, Boston future much better.

Re: Currently which lineup is better? Lakers or Celtics
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2014, 09:12:40 PM »

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Rondo > Lin
AB > Kobe
Smart > Xavier Henry

Boozer > KO

Sully > Randle

Jeff Green > Wesley Johnson

Zeller = Ed Davis

Nick Young > James Young

I got the Celts.

Re: Currently which lineup is better? Lakers or Celtics
« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2014, 09:19:01 PM »

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Rondo > Lin
AB > Kobe
Smart > Xavier Henry

Boozer > KO

Sully > Randle

Jeff Green > Wesley Johnson

Zeller = Ed Davis

Nick Young > James Young

I got the Celts.

Bradley > Kobe?  :o
Boozer > KO?    :o

Those are the two I disagree with but still, Celtics have better side.
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Re: Currently which lineup is better? Lakers or Celtics
« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2014, 09:27:28 PM »

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Rondo > Lin
AB > Kobe
Smart > Xavier Henry

Boozer > KO

Sully > Randle

Jeff Green > Wesley Johnson

Zeller = Ed Davis

Nick Young > James Young

I got the Celts.

Bradley > Kobe?  :o
Boozer > KO?    :o

Those are the two I disagree with but still, Celtics have better side.
This season overall? Definitely.

Re: Currently which lineup is better? Lakers or Celtics
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2014, 09:33:49 PM »

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With the addition of Randle, Lin, Boozer, Davis, and resigning Swaggy P and Jordan Hill. Also with their franchise player still at the helm alongside Nash...

I think Lakers by a hundred miles.


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Re: Currently which lineup is better? Lakers or Celtics
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2014, 09:39:16 PM »

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Lakers by at least 10 wins

Re: Currently which lineup is better? Lakers or Celtics
« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2014, 09:40:35 PM »

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Did someone really say AB is better than Kobe ? I'm done.