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Um, why?  My favorite part of the article -

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It's probably a bit of an overpay for a player who, while great at creating shots and coming off the most efficient season of his career, is not an impactful defender, passer or rebounder.

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http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24616493/nick-young-agrees-to-4-year-215-million-deal-with-lakers

Re: Nick Young Agrees to 4-year, $21.5 million deal with the Lakers
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2014, 10:45:23 PM »

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Not that bad.... But not really good either.  Back up player getting paid back up money

Re: Nick Young Agrees to 4-year, $21.5 million deal with the Lakers
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The Lakers are setting themselves up to be terrible.  Jerry Buss is rolling over in his grave.  I love it.

Re: Nick Young Agrees to 4-year, $21.5 million deal with the Lakers
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2014, 12:58:14 AM »

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The Lakers are setting themselves up to be terrible.  Jerry Buss is rolling over in his grave.  I love it.

Let's hope that they'll be awful, but not so bad that they'll end up with a top 5 pick next year.  Nick Young and Kobe on the same team?  Ahahaha.  Were they thinking that resigning this guy would make Carmelo serious about going there?  Imagine that nightmare on the court at the same time - Kobe, Melo, and Nick Young?  Oh man ::)

Re: Nick Young Agrees to 4-year, $21.5 million deal with the Lakers
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2014, 01:11:50 AM »

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They should've kept Mike D'Antoni. It would have been a good sighting to see both Lin and D'Antoni being together again, and then lured Carmelo Anthony.

Lakers are the New York Knicks West at that rate.


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Re: Nick Young Agrees to 4-year, $21.5 million deal with the Lakers
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2014, 02:22:15 AM »

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They should've kept Mike D'Antoni. It would have been a good sighting to see both Lin and D'Antoni being together again, and then lured Carmelo Anthony.

Lakers are the New York Knicks West at that rate.

Yeah, because the Anthony - D'Antoni relationship was nothing but sunshine and rainbows the first time around ::)  Didn't Melo get Mr. Run and Gun fired?  God, he's like the Deron Williams of small forwards ;D

Re: Nick Young Agrees to 4-year, $21.5 million deal with the Lakers
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2014, 08:20:36 AM »

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It's a fair contract in my book.

It is just the wrong moment in the team's development to be signing a guy like Nick Young to that type of deal so it's a bad deal despite the money being fair.

I think Nick Young is a player you only sign to a substantial multi-year contract when the rest of the team is in place and you have exactly the right type of circumstances for him to succeed in. Sort of like Marcus Thornton. Two very similar players. Good scorers but do not do a lot else. Not a one size fits all type of player. Need very specific situations to succeed as a result. On majority of teams their playing time will be limited due to flaws. On small number of teams, generally top notch defensive teams who have stars who are not great scorers and as a result team relies on supporting cast for needed offense, a guy like Nick Young or Marcus Thornton can be quite valuable as scoring orientated role players. Starting SGs who can get you 16-18ppg.

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They should've kept Mike D'Antoni. It would have been a good sighting to see both Lin and D'Antoni being together again, and then lured Carmelo Anthony.

Lakers are the New York Knicks West at that rate.

Yeah, because the Anthony - D'Antoni relationship was nothing but sunshine and rainbows the first time around ::)  Didn't Melo get Mr. Run and Gun fired?  God, he's like the Deron Williams of small forwards ;D

To be fair, Mike Woodson got himself fired.

Re: Nick Young Agrees to 4-year, $21.5 million deal with the Lakers
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2014, 08:42:13 AM »

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It's a fair contract in my book.

It is just the wrong moment in the team's development to be signing a guy like Nick Young to that type of deal so it's a bad deal despite the money being fair.

I think Nick Young is a player you only sign to a substantial multi-year contract when the rest of the team is in place and you have exactly the right type of circumstances for him to succeed in. Sort of like Marcus Thornton. Two very similar players. Good scorers but do not do a lot else. Not a one size fits all type of player. Need very specific situations to succeed as a result. On majority of teams their playing time will be limited due to flaws. On small number of teams, generally top notch defensive teams who have stars who are not great scorers and as a result team relies on supporting cast for needed offense, a guy like Nick Young or Marcus Thornton can be quite valuable as scoring orientated role players. Starting SGs who can get you 16-18ppg.

Nick Young is NOT a "good scorer" is the problem with your entire premise. He is an average scorer who happens to shoot the ball a lot. There's a difference. Look at his shooting splits; they are all hovering right around the league average. Combine that with the fact that every other number of his across the board is below average, and you get a what is called, in technical terms, a "Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ty basketball player."

Re: Nick Young Agrees to 4-year, $21.5 million deal with the Lakers
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2014, 08:56:45 AM »

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It's a fair contract in my book.

It is just the wrong moment in the team's development to be signing a guy like Nick Young to that type of deal so it's a bad deal despite the money being fair.

I think Nick Young is a player you only sign to a substantial multi-year contract when the rest of the team is in place and you have exactly the right type of circumstances for him to succeed in. Sort of like Marcus Thornton. Two very similar players. Good scorers but do not do a lot else. Not a one size fits all type of player. Need very specific situations to succeed as a result. On majority of teams their playing time will be limited due to flaws. On small number of teams, generally top notch defensive teams who have stars who are not great scorers and as a result team relies on supporting cast for needed offense, a guy like Nick Young or Marcus Thornton can be quite valuable as scoring orientated role players. Starting SGs who can get you 16-18ppg.

Nick Young is NOT a "good scorer" is the problem with your entire premise. He is an average scorer who happens to shoot the ball a lot. There's a difference. Look at his shooting splits; they are all hovering right around the league average. Combine that with the fact that every other number of his across the board is below average, and you get a what is called, in technical terms, a "****ty basketball player."

Nick Young tends to be a bit higher than average in terms of scoring efficiency when you include turnovers into the equation. Low turnover player due to style of play.

Even at average scoring efficiency, I think players who can reliably get their own shot and score 15+ppg (while offering little else to team) have value to teams. They are not stars. They not guys you build around. They are support players. Role players. They are not valuable everywhere. Only in certain situations.

Sometimes ... in the right home, they just add more than a basic "3 and D" player. Sometimes teams who are desperate for scoring and cannot afford to get a star player to do it, are better off with somebody like Nick Young than a defender/shooter type.