Chandler Parsons agrees to 3-year, $46 million deal with Dallas Mavericks

[Donoghus]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
Dallas delivered Chandler Parsons' $46M sheet to Houston, ending sign-and-trade talks, source tells Yahoo. Rockets have three days to match.

Let him walk, Houston.  Let him walk.

[BudweiserCeltic]

The funny thing is that Morey could've traded Asik last year to the Celtics... but he wanted to have his cake and eat it too, and it may just end up backfiring on him.

He seems to have wanted a pick that had a shot of being in the top ten.  I'm not sure Ainge was willing to give that up.

The bigger sticking point was that he didn't want to take on any contracts that were guaranteed into this season, which the Celtics would have needed to offer as they were limited by the hard cap.  If he had taken those contracts, he'd be trying to move Brandon Bass, Courtney Lee, or Jeff Green instead of Omer Asik to create room for his max player.

His potential error was in demanding too much in return from the Celtics to dump his contract to this offseason, when they would have been able to take it and not send salary back.  But that's only an error if the Pelicans deal falls through, because otherwise he's received the pick he wanted.

  They could have used their trade exception, couldn't they? Even now they could trade Bogans and 2 of Babb/Pressey/Johnson, so we could make that trade today if necessary.

No, that's my point.  They couldn't have used trade exception, because they were bound by the hard cap (due to acquiring Bogans via a sign-and-trade), and at the time in December this deal was rumored, the Celtics were only about $3 million underneath, so using the TPE would not have been permissible.  The Celtics also wanted to get under the luxury tax, which is why they were willing to send Bass and Lee for Asik, as that would have done it.

Probably the Celtics could have sent Bogans and Crawford for Asik, but that would have moved the Celtics further into luxury tax territory, and wouldn't have helped the Rockets out at all for last year.  It certainly would have required a solid pick.

If the Pelicans' deal falls through now, could Boston still get Asik?  Ainge clearly isn't going to give up a 1st rounder and but would Morey be interested in something like Thornton/Bass if Parsons leaves?  Would Ainge even want Asik now with Zeller on board?

Mike

Yep you can, using our non-guaranteed contracts. Keith Bogans + 2 more.

[Cman]

The funny thing is that Morey could've traded Asik last year to the Celtics... but he wanted to have his cake and eat it too, and it may just end up backfiring on him.

He seems to have wanted a pick that had a shot of being in the top ten.  I'm not sure Ainge was willing to give that up.

The bigger sticking point was that he didn't want to take on any contracts that were guaranteed into this season, which the Celtics would have needed to offer as they were limited by the hard cap.  If he had taken those contracts, he'd be trying to move Brandon Bass, Courtney Lee, or Jeff Green instead of Omer Asik to create room for his max player.

His potential error was in demanding too much in return from the Celtics to dump his contract to this offseason, when they would have been able to take it and not send salary back.  But that's only an error if the Pelicans deal falls through, because otherwise he's received the pick he wanted.

  They could have used their trade exception, couldn't they? Even now they could trade Bogans and 2 of Babb/Pressey/Johnson, so we could make that trade today if necessary.

No, that's my point.  They couldn't have used trade exception, because they were bound by the hard cap (due to acquiring Bogans via a sign-and-trade), and at the time in December this deal was rumored, the Celtics were only about $3 million underneath, so using the TPE would not have been permissible.  The Celtics also wanted to get under the luxury tax, which is why they were willing to send Bass and Lee for Asik, as that would have done it.

Probably the Celtics could have sent Bogans and Crawford for Asik, but that would have moved the Celtics further into luxury tax territory, and wouldn't have helped the Rockets out at all for last year.  It certainly would have required a solid pick.

If the Pelicans' deal falls through now, could Boston still get Asik?  Ainge clearly isn't going to give up a 1st rounder and but would Morey be interested in something like Thornton/Bass if Parsons leaves?  Would Ainge even want Asik now with Zeller on board?

Mike

Yep you can, using our non-guaranteed contracts. Keith Bogans + 2 more.

If Morey is interested in Bass, then Bass + Bogans would be enough to make salaries match. The question is what else Houston might want, and also how that impacts the Celtics finances going forward (it would put them over the limit so that they become "tax payers" which they want to avoid).

[CFAN38]

Hayward and Parsons deals are making Jeff Greens contract look pretty good.

[saltlover]

The funny thing is that Morey could've traded Asik last year to the Celtics... but he wanted to have his cake and eat it too, and it may just end up backfiring on him.

He seems to have wanted a pick that had a shot of being in the top ten.  I'm not sure Ainge was willing to give that up.

The bigger sticking point was that he didn't want to take on any contracts that were guaranteed into this season, which the Celtics would have needed to offer as they were limited by the hard cap.  If he had taken those contracts, he'd be trying to move Brandon Bass, Courtney Lee, or Jeff Green instead of Omer Asik to create room for his max player.

His potential error was in demanding too much in return from the Celtics to dump his contract to this offseason, when they would have been able to take it and not send salary back.  But that's only an error if the Pelicans deal falls through, because otherwise he's received the pick he wanted.

  They could have used their trade exception, couldn't they? Even now they could trade Bogans and 2 of Babb/Pressey/Johnson, so we could make that trade today if necessary.

No, that's my point.  They couldn't have used trade exception, because they were bound by the hard cap (due to acquiring Bogans via a sign-and-trade), and at the time in December this deal was rumored, the Celtics were only about $3 million underneath, so using the TPE would not have been permissible.  The Celtics also wanted to get under the luxury tax, which is why they were willing to send Bass and Lee for Asik, as that would have done it.

Probably the Celtics could have sent Bogans and Crawford for Asik, but that would have moved the Celtics further into luxury tax territory, and wouldn't have helped the Rockets out at all for last year.  It certainly would have required a solid pick.

If the Pelicans' deal falls through now, could Boston still get Asik?  Ainge clearly isn't going to give up a 1st rounder and but would Morey be interested in something like Thornton/Bass if Parsons leaves?  Would Ainge even want Asik now with Zeller on board?

Mike

Yep you can, using our non-guaranteed contracts. Keith Bogans + 2 more.

If Morey is interested in Bass, then Bass + Bogans would be enough to make salaries match. The question is what else Houston might want, and also how that impacts the Celtics finances going forward (it would put them over the limit so that they become "tax payers" which they want to avoid).

Bass + Bogans would not put the Celtics in luxury tax territory.  Currently they are technically in the luxury tax by about $2 million.  Bass and Bogans count $12.2 mil against the cap, while Asik counts $8.4 million, so a $3.8 million difference.  This would take the C's out of taxpayer status.

The Celtics could also use Bogan+Johnson+Babb to match the salaries, but that would make the Celtics taxpayers, almost $4 million over the line, so little way to get under it easily.

[Eja117]

15M for the white Jeff Green?

No. Chandler Parsons can play basketball and is rarely outrebounded by hobbitts

Huh.  Parsons and his whopping career average of 5.2 rebounds a game.  Green is at 5.1 a game.  And Green is older, but just 2 years older.  Parsons entered the league at 23 so it isn't like he is that young.

Right. Exactly. Even with D Howard sucking up like 14 rebs a game Parsons still manages more rebs than Green on a team with no center at all.
I'm telling you now if you need a rebounder and the choices are Jeff Green or Frodo, go for Frodo. Frodo would probably actually try to do his best more often than every 5th game too.

[kozlodoev]

15M for the white Jeff Green?

No. Chandler Parsons can play basketball and is rarely outrebounded by hobbitts

Huh.  Parsons and his whopping career average of 5.2 rebounds a game.  Green is at 5.1 a game.  And Green is older, but just 2 years older.  Parsons entered the league at 23 so it isn't like he is that young.

Right. Exactly. Even with D Howard sucking up like 14 rebs a game Parsons still manages more rebs than Green on a team with no center at all.
I'm telling you now if you need a rebounder and the choices are Jeff Green or Frodo, go for Frodo. Frodo would probably actually try to do his best more often than every 5th game too.

Yeah, because Parsons has played with Howard his entire career. The rebounding is a wash (in fact, Parsons' career TRR is slightly lower). Parsons and Green are largely the same player.

[Eja117]

15M for the white Jeff Green?

No. Chandler Parsons can play basketball and is rarely outrebounded by hobbitts

Huh.  Parsons and his whopping career average of 5.2 rebounds a game.  Green is at 5.1 a game.  And Green is older, but just 2 years older.  Parsons entered the league at 23 so it isn't like he is that young.

Right. Exactly. Even with D Howard sucking up like 14 rebs a game Parsons still manages more rebs than Green on a team with no center at all.
I'm telling you now if you need a rebounder and the choices are Jeff Green or Frodo, go for Frodo. Frodo would probably actually try to do his best more often than every 5th game too.

Yeah, because Parsons has played with Howard his entire career. The rebounding is a wash (in fact, Parsons' career TRR is slightly lower). Parsons and Green are largely the same player.

We don't need to insult Parsons like this. He didn't do anything to us.

Shooting percentages (all of them) aren't close.
Assists are close.
Steals aren't close
Parsons just finished his third year in the league.  Green just finished his 7th.
And Parsons isn't a team killing presence.
If Lazy had an effort contest with Jeff Green, Jeff Green would lose, while Lazy asked him what the heck was the problem.

[knuckleballer]

15M for the white Jeff Green?

No. Chandler Parsons can play basketball and is rarely outrebounded by hobbitts

Huh.  Parsons and his whopping career average of 5.2 rebounds a game.  Green is at 5.1 a game.  And Green is older, but just 2 years older.  Parsons entered the league at 23 so it isn't like he is that young.

Right. Exactly. Even with D Howard sucking up like 14 rebs a game Parsons still manages more rebs than Green on a team with no center at all.
I'm telling you now if you need a rebounder and the choices are Jeff Green or Frodo, go for Frodo. Frodo would probably actually try to do his best more often than every 5th game too.

Green was asked to be "the man" for the Celtics last year since they lacked a true point guard for much of the season and Bradley is not one to create offense.  Green should have been creating offense for himself and his teammates.  Yet, he only averaged 1.7 assists per game.  That's terrible.
Parsons was playing with Harden and Lin, two guys who dominated the ball, and he still managed 4 assists per game.  He's clearly the better player.

[Eja117]

Wow...15mil per? Yeah you can have him for that dallas.

I don't care what people say, Jeff Green is on a bargain deal with the way people are being paid! Is Parsons worth $5m more per yr than Green?!

No he's not.  Jeff green ticks me off to no end but if he can give us at least 50% quality games this year, I'll be happy.

You could pay Green 9mill a year and there's still no way he'd do that

[kozlodoev]

Parsons just finished his third year in the league.  Green just finished his 7th.

In his third season in the NBA (when he was 22), Jeff Green averaged 15 pts and 7 rpg playing with Westbrook and Durant. He had also come off a year where he shot .380 from three.

If someone wants to pay Chandler $15+ million per season ... well, it's their team's funeral, after all.

[Eja117]

Parsons just finished his third year in the league.  Green just finished his 7th.

In his third season in the NBA (when he was 22), Jeff Green averaged 15 pts and 7 rpg playing with Westbrook and Durant. He had also come off a year where he shot .380 from three.

If someone wants to pay Chandler $15+ million per season ... well, it's their team's funeral, after all.

Right. So Jeff Green has tremendously regressed since then, got his pay day, and checked out.

[kozlodoev]

Parsons just finished his third year in the league.  Green just finished his 7th.

In his third season in the NBA (when he was 22), Jeff Green averaged 15 pts and 7 rpg playing with Westbrook and Durant. He had also come off a year where he shot .380 from three.

If someone wants to pay Chandler $15+ million per season ... well, it's their team's funeral, after all.

Right. So Jeff Green has tremendously regressed since then, got his pay day, and checked out.

No, he just had an open-heart surgery, and was asked to fill a role he was ill-suited for. And he still doesn't cost $15 million a season.

[green147]

Parsons just finished his third year in the league.  Green just finished his 7th.

In his third season in the NBA (when he was 22), Jeff Green averaged 15 pts and 7 rpg playing with Westbrook and Durant. He had also come off a year where he shot .380 from three.

If someone wants to pay Chandler $15+ million per season ... well, it's their team's funeral, after all.

Right. So Jeff Green has tremendously regressed since then, got his pay day, and checked out.

How is being the teams leading scorer checking out again? Oh right and he was paid less than Kris Humphries or Gerald Wallace.... Green gets way too much unwarranted hate around here.

[inverselock]

Parsons just finished his third year in the league.  Green just finished his 7th.

In his third season in the NBA (when he was 22), Jeff Green averaged 15 pts and 7 rpg playing with Westbrook and Durant. He had also come off a year where he shot .380 from three.

If someone wants to pay Chandler $15+ million per season ... well, it's their team's funeral, after all.

Right. So Jeff Green has tremendously regressed since then, got his pay day, and checked out.

Did he steal your girl?   You're very salty about Jeff.