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Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! Points Hoops League: 2014 Offseason: Post Lottery
« Reply #435 on: May 29, 2015, 07:19:34 PM »

Offline mkogav

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James Young and Tyler Ennis have pretty identical trade value.


I'm not disputing that James Young has more trade value in this fantasy league.


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Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! Points Hoops League: 2014 Offseason: Post Lottery
« Reply #436 on: May 29, 2015, 07:21:48 PM »

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James Young and Tyler Ennis have pretty identical trade value.


I'm not disputing that James Young has more trade value in this fantasy league.


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Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! Points Hoops League: 2014 Offseason: Post Lottery
« Reply #437 on: May 29, 2015, 07:27:10 PM »

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James Young and Tyler Ennis have pretty identical trade value.


I'm not disputing that James Young has more trade value in this fantasy league.


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If I wasn't clear... I was saying that in the real world (the NBA), they are on a par.   If the Boston Celtics tried to trade James Young, they'd get basically the same return as the Bucks would get by trading Tyler Ennis.   They are equal in terms of trade value.

If I wasn't clear, this fantasy basketball league has an obvious pro-Celtic bias.  This is literally CelticsBlog.   Freakin Gigi Datome arguably has trade value in this league.  It skews things a bit. 

The two bolded statements don't contradict each other.  They actually work together.    James Young and Tyler Ennis have pretty identical trade value.  I'm not disputing that James Young has more trade value in this fantasy league..

Regardless, that was a nice trade by both teams.  Some might be looking at it with green-tinted goggles and overvaluing what James Young is worth. 


Sorry for not being clear.
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Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! Points Hoops League: 2014 Offseason: Post Lottery
« Reply #438 on: May 29, 2015, 07:35:07 PM »

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Hearing a trade for an allstar big man is close
Let's turn this into a 6-team trade.

Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! Points Hoops League: 2014 Offseason: Post Lottery
« Reply #439 on: May 29, 2015, 07:43:57 PM »

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Gasol is close to being traded folks so u guys better give me some better offers
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! Points Hoops League: 2014 Offseason: Post Lottery
« Reply #440 on: May 29, 2015, 08:51:05 PM »

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I'm loving the offseason activity already! I have to give a shoutout to the commish for opening up the trade season and letting us have some fun!!

Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! Points Hoops League: 2014 Offseason: Post Lottery
« Reply #441 on: May 29, 2015, 09:17:01 PM »

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Gasol is close to being traded folks so u guys better give me some better offers

Nice, I'll be interested to see what U get.

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Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! Points Hoops League: 2014 Offseason: Post Lottery
« Reply #442 on: May 29, 2015, 11:00:03 PM »

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Chaz Buick:  "Complicated 4-Team Deal involves 4 players and 7 Draft picks. Source indicates deal is "99% Done". Teams are preparing paperwork to file to league offices."

Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! Points Hoops League: 2014 Offseason: Post Lottery
« Reply #443 on: May 30, 2015, 09:08:59 AM »

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I'm hearing it's not actually a 4 team deal.  It could be submitted separately as 4 separate deals, but if the gms involved wanna call it a 4 team deal go ahead. 

Also I made drawings about how it's really 4 separate trades if anybody wants to see
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Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! Points Hoops League: 2014 Offseason: Post Lottery
« Reply #444 on: May 30, 2015, 10:17:27 AM »

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I'm hearing it's not actually a 4 team deal.  It could be submitted separately as 4 separate deals, but if the gms involved wanna call it a 4 team deal go ahead. 

Also I made drawings about how it's really 4 separate trades if anybody wants to see
This one is a pure legit bonafied 4 teamer.  Team A had a lot of stuff.  Team C didn't want all that stuff. So Team A says, "what if I trade some of this stuff to Team B and Team B sends you their stuff.... Then you're getting stuff from both of us!"   Meanwhile, Team A wanted some of Team D's stuff but Team D wanted some of Team A's stuff and Team C's stuff.  So Team A sent more stuff to Team C so that Team C would send stuff to Team D and Team D would send some stuff to Team A.  There's a lot of stuff. 



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Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! Points Hoops League: 2014 Offseason: Post Lottery
« Reply #445 on: May 30, 2015, 11:47:14 AM »

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I'm hearing it's not actually a 4 team deal.  It could be submitted separately as 4 separate deals, but if the gms involved wanna call it a 4 team deal go ahead. 

Also I made drawings about how it's really 4 separate trades if anybody wants to see
This one is a pure legit bonafied 4 teamer.  Team A had a lot of stuff.  Team C didn't want all that stuff. So Team A says, "what if I trade some of this stuff to Team B and Team B sends you their stuff.... Then you're getting stuff from both of us!"   Meanwhile, Team A wanted some of Team D's stuff but Team D wanted some of Team A's stuff and Team C's stuff.  So Team A sent more stuff to Team C so that Team C would send stuff to Team D and Team D would send some stuff to Team A.  There's a lot of stuff. 





Hand drawn???! Where's the animated power point?

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Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! Points Hoops League: 2014 Offseason: Post Lottery
« Reply #446 on: May 30, 2015, 02:07:49 PM »

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I'm hearing it's not actually a 4 team deal.  It could be submitted separately as 4 separate deals, but if the gms involved wanna call it a 4 team deal go ahead. 

Also I made drawings about how it's really 4 separate trades if anybody wants to see
This one is a pure legit bonafied 4 teamer.  Team A had a lot of stuff.  Team C didn't want all that stuff. So Team A says, "what if I trade some of this stuff to Team B and Team B sends you their stuff.... Then you're getting stuff from both of us!"   Meanwhile, Team A wanted some of Team D's stuff but Team D wanted some of Team A's stuff and Team C's stuff.  So Team A sent more stuff to Team C so that Team C would send stuff to Team D and Team D would send some stuff to Team A.  There's a lot of stuff. 





Hand drawn???! Where's the animated power point?

Mk


Times are tough in the Bellview front office. 90% of the money must go into marketing/advertising is my guess ;D

Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! Points Hoops League: 2014 Offseason: Post Lottery
« Reply #447 on: May 30, 2015, 02:43:56 PM »

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I'm hearing it's not actually a 4 team deal.  It could be submitted separately as 4 separate deals, but if the gms involved wanna call it a 4 team deal go ahead. 

Also I made drawings about how it's really 4 separate trades if anybody wants to see
This one is a pure legit bonafied 4 teamer.  Team A had a lot of stuff.  Team C didn't want all that stuff. So Team A says, "what if I trade some of this stuff to Team B and Team B sends you their stuff.... Then you're getting stuff from both of us!"   Meanwhile, Team A wanted some of Team D's stuff but Team D wanted some of Team A's stuff and Team C's stuff.  So Team A sent more stuff to Team C so that Team C would send stuff to Team D and Team D would send some stuff to Team A.  There's a lot of stuff. 





Hand drawn???! Where's the animated power point?

Mk


Times are tough in the Bellview front office. 90% of the money must go into marketing/advertising is my guess ;D

Tp!!!

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Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! Points Hoops League: 2014 Offseason: Post Lottery
« Reply #448 on: May 30, 2015, 04:00:03 PM »

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I'm hearing it's not actually a 4 team deal.  It could be submitted separately as 4 separate deals, but if the gms involved wanna call it a 4 team deal go ahead. 

Also I made drawings about how it's really 4 separate trades if anybody wants to see
This one is a pure legit bonafied 4 teamer.  Team A had a lot of stuff.  Team C didn't want all that stuff. So Team A says, "what if I trade some of this stuff to Team B and Team B sends you their stuff.... Then you're getting stuff from both of us!"   Meanwhile, Team A wanted some of Team D's stuff but Team D wanted some of Team A's stuff and Team C's stuff.  So Team A sent more stuff to Team C so that Team C would send stuff to Team D and Team D would send some stuff to Team A.  There's a lot of stuff. 





Hand drawn???! Where's the animated power point?

Mk


Times are tough in the Bellview front office. 90% of the money must go into marketing/advertising is my guess ;D

Tp!!!

Mk

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Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! Points Hoops League: 2014 Offseason: Post Lottery
« Reply #449 on: May 30, 2015, 06:03:07 PM »

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4-Team Trade is submitted/confirmed.  Just awaiting announcement from league office. 

I'm now listening to offers for the following pieces

My 2016 1st round Pick - My draft pick has ended up #2 for two years in a row.  The Ben Simmons draft should be a big one.

Nik Stauskas - He was picked 8th.  He shot 47%/44%/82% in College.  Not unlikely his predecessor, Ben McLemore, he struggled as a rookie in a Rudy Gay-dominated culture.   McLemore saw a dramatic improvement from year 1 to 2.   Stauskas has already displayed positive signs.  First half of the season shot an uncharacteristic 33%/26%/86% ....  Post-All-star he saw an increase in both minutes and production, shooting 42%/42%/86%.  We have more evidence to support Stauskas as an elite shooter than not.  He has legit size at 6'6 205 for the SG position.  His last game he put up 14 points, 5 assists and 5 rebounds. 

Bismack Biyombo - He's long been a binkie of mine.  Still only 22 years old.  When given minutes, he's been productive.  In 2013-14, he had Per-36 minute averages of 7.5 points, 12.3 rebounds, 2.9 blocks and 61% shooting.  Last year, it was more of the same.  His defensive-rating of 99 would actually put him in the top 10 in the league with qualified minutes.  Yet he found himself Hornet team somewhat loaded with big prospects.  Al Jefferson getting the bulk of minutes and Cody Zeller seemingly a higher development priority due to being selected #4 a year prior.  Despite this, Biyombo made the most of his minutes and eventually found himself starting for the final month of the season.  In 21 starts, he averaged 27 minutes, 7 points, 8 rebounds, 2 blocks with 55% shooting.  HIs numbers over the past month were even better (averaging 30mpg and 30FP in the process).  He's proved that he will average a FP per minute... the question is just whether he'll get the minutes next year.  This summer he's a restricted free agent that the Hornets might let go.  If someone gives him 35+ minutes, you can fully expect him to generate 35+FP. 


Both Stauskas (via trade) and Biyombo (via free agency) would make for great buy-low acquisitions for Ainge this Summer.  It's worth noting here that long-time forum member ssspence randomly posted in March that Biyombo would be a target for the Celtics:

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Just calling it now. I have it on good authority the Cs org feels they can work him into a better, more rounded player, and therefore leverage his shotblocking ability more consistently. If they strike out on a marquee big man early in FA, look for this to happen.

I genuinely like both Stauskas and Biyombo, but I'm open to listening to offers.

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