Is LeBron a quitter????

[nickagneta]

Since when has Lebron, if he wanted in or out of a game not gotten his way? He left the game with 6 1/2 minutes left and was gone. He never went back to the coach and told him to put him in. He never went back to the scorer's table and tried to check himself back in. He sat, started crying and proceeded to wipe himself down and whine on the bench.

If he wanted back in there was no way he doesn't get back in that game. He stayed out because he gave up, pure and simple. If he wanted back in he would have been back in because Spoelstra doesn't tell Lebron when to sit and when to play. Lebron does that himself.

[Randy]

(Haven't read every page so this may have been mentioned)

But up until the point he came out with  6 minutes left hadn't he only gone to the bench for a total of like 14 seconds? Is it not possible that He/spo wanted to take a few minute break before they made their final push, but when it was time for him to come in it was obviously to late? Not to mention Lebron cannot beat the Spurs single handed, no one can.  Probably the only time you'll see me "defending" him.

[Finkelskyhook]

The messiah is no quitter.  He's an absolute gamer.

The series exposed the messiah and the heat, though....  (1) They need a point guard.  (2) When the games are called by the rulebook the messiah's and particularly wade's advantages are substantially lessened.

That and they lost to a far superior team in every facet of the game.

Yeah, Lebron's production on the floor really took a hit.  I mean shooting over 50% from the floor and down town.  Awful.

Statistically....The same...OK.

You think he performed anywhere near the same level that he did last year's Finals when he was being officiated like the regular season last year? ....We must've been watching different series.

[wdleehi]

The messiah is no quitter.  He's an absolute gamer.

The series exposed the messiah and the heat, though....  (1) They need a point guard.  (2) When the games are called by the rulebook the messiah's and particularly wade's advantages are substantially lessened.

That and they lost to a far superior team in every facet of the game.

Yeah, Lebron's production on the floor really took a hit.  I mean shooting over 50% from the floor and down town.  Awful.

Statistically....The same...OK.

You think he performed anywhere near the same level that he did last year's Finals when he was being officiated like the regular season last year? ....We must've been watching different series.

The difference was last year, his teammates showed up and for the Spurs, Manu was really beat up. 

[LarBrd33]

Honest question... what more could LeBron have really done?

In the finals, he averaged 28 points, 8 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 steals, 57%/52%/79%  ...

That's obscenely good.   He was the best player in the series.  His team was outclassed.  Definitely not his fault.

[Celtics18]

(Haven't read every page so this may have been mentioned)

But up until the point he came out with  6 minutes left hadn't he only gone to the bench for a total of like 14 seconds? Is it not possible that He/spo wanted to take a few minute break before they made their final push, but when it was time for him to come in it was obviously to late? Not to mention Lebron cannot beat the Spurs single handed, no one can.  Probably the only time you'll see me "defending" him.

Good point.  It's one I made a bit earlier.  Nobody wants reason or reality thrown into this melee, though. 

[wdleehi]

Honest question... what more could LeBron have really done?

In the finals, he averaged 28 points, 8 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 steals, 57%/52%/79%  ...

That's obscenely good.   He was the best player in the series.  His team was outclassed.  Definitely not his fault.

Nothing.



Look at the two teams that gave him the biggest issues in his career when he was forced to go it alone:  Boston and San Antonio.


Two teams that played world class team defense and completely shut down all the players around him. 

[Donoghus]

Honest question... what more could LeBron have really done?

In the finals, he averaged 28 points, 8 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 steals, 57%/52%/79%  ...

That's obscenely good.   He was the best player in the series.  His team was outclassed.  Definitely not his fault.

Pretty much. 

The way the Spurs played Games 3-5, heck the '86 Celtics would've had problems.   

[Finkelskyhook]

The messiah is no quitter.  He's an absolute gamer.

The series exposed the messiah and the heat, though....  (1) They need a point guard.  (2) When the games are called by the rulebook the messiah's and particularly wade's advantages are substantially lessened.

That and they lost to a far superior team in every facet of the game.

Yeah, Lebron's production on the floor really took a hit.  I mean shooting over 50% from the floor and down town.  Awful.

Statistically....The same...OK.

You think he performed anywhere near the same level that he did last year's Finals when he was being officiated like the regular season last year? ....We must've been watching different series.

The difference was last year, his teammates showed up and for the Spurs, Manu was really beat up.

....That and the officials weren't wearing heat uniforms. 

[fairweatherfan]

The messiah is no quitter.  He's an absolute gamer.

The series exposed the messiah and the heat, though....  (1) They need a point guard.  (2) When the games are called by the rulebook the messiah's and particularly wade's advantages are substantially lessened.

That and they lost to a far superior team in every facet of the game.

Yeah, Lebron's production on the floor really took a hit.  I mean shooting over 50% from the floor and down town.  Awful.

Statistically....The same...OK.

You think he performed anywhere near the same level that he did last year's Finals when he was being officiated like the regular season last year? ....We must've been watching different series.

LeBron averaged more FTA per game in this year's Finals (5.8 ) than last year's (5.57).  Where was this difference in officiating, exactly?  I hear it's really blatant.

[Waew]

The messiah is no quitter.  He's an absolute gamer.

The series exposed the messiah and the heat, though....  (1) They need a point guard.  (2) When the games are called by the rulebook the messiah's and particularly wade's advantages are substantially lessened.

That and they lost to a far superior team in every facet of the game.

Yeah, Lebron's production on the floor really took a hit.  I mean shooting over 50% from the floor and down town.  Awful.

Statistically....The same...OK.

You think he performed anywhere near the same level that he did last year's Finals when he was being officiated like the regular season last year? ....We must've been watching different series.

LeBron averaged more FTA per game in this year's Finals (5.8 ) than last year's (5.57).  Where was this difference in officiating, exactly?  I hear it's really blatant.

last years  free throws were from more blatant flops.

[D.o.s.]

Well that's empiric.

[Celtics4ever]

There were some bad calls last night where I saw no one touch him in the replay.  This happened a few times and does every game.  That is the great thing about replay it shows how often they get it wrong.  I thought the Spurs were hosed last year.   This was a horrible call for instance amd how is this not a foul?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwMpbS36OU0


Tons of body contact.   The refs are clowns.   I get you don't want a call to decide a game but when a man gets bodied that that on a block tis a foul.

[knuckleballer]

There were some bad calls last night where I saw no one touch him in the replay.  This happened a few times and does every game.  That is the great thing about replay it shows how often they get it wrong.  I thought the Spurs were hosed last year.   This was a horrible call for instance amd how is this not a foul?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwMpbS36OU0


Tons of body contact.   The refs are clowns.   I get you don't want a call to decide a game but when a man gets bodied that that on a block tis a foul.

That was absolutely a foul.  Maybe it was because the NBA wanted a game 7.  I thought the officiating was noticeably better this year.  Maybe it's because Stern is gone.

[MBunge]

Honest question... what more could LeBron have really done?

In the finals, he averaged 28 points, 8 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 steals, 57%/52%/79%  ...

That's obscenely good.   He was the best player in the series.  His team was outclassed.  Definitely not his fault.

LeBron James career playoff averages - 28 pts, 8.4 rebounds, 6.4 assists and 48% from the field. 

James has had MANY playoff series where he put up better numbers than this Finals.  I remember a series against Orlando when Cleveland wasn't very good and James put up video game type numbers.  Those shooting percentages are crazy but the other numbers are not "obscenely good".

Kevin Durant playoff averages this year - 29.6 points, 8.9 rebounds, 3.9 assists on 46% from the field.  Does anyone think Durant had an "obscenely good" run in the playoffs this year?

Mike