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L. Sanders for G. Wallace and pick
« on: May 15, 2014, 09:04:53 PM »

Offline drogbagarnett

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I was thinking about the Asik vs Sanders choice as our top defensive anchor for next season and my choice is now turning toward Sanders despite his off court issues...
He now is my favorite option because of his athleticism and his low price...
So the off court issues could turn out to be positive for us getting him more easily.
I'm praying bucks get Embid wherever they end up in the lottery so Sanders becomes even less needed/wanted there...
A package of Wallace plus clips pick or another low future pick for Sanders could work for both teams.
We get our shot blocker and get Wallace off our hands for just 1 of our pletoria of picks.
They get 2 years of a good wing defender with veteran locker room influence at 10m (expiring next year) instead of 4 years and 11m for a player you dont want/need anymore... PLUS a pick!!!
Who says no...?
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Re: L. Sanders for G. Wallace and pick
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2014, 09:13:15 PM »

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Bucks easily say no.

Re: L. Sanders for G. Wallace and pick
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2014, 09:20:05 PM »

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Bucks easily say no.

Not sure the Bucks could get much else for Sanders. His value is at an all time low after his injury and legal problems. He's making 11 million starting next season to play more or less the same role as John Henson.

I'd be ecstatic to see Sanders in Green barring he could stay healthy. It seems like forever since we've had a legit shot blocking center. 

Re: L. Sanders for G. Wallace and pick
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2014, 11:06:33 PM »

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especially if they get embid in the draft...
then they would go a long term rebuilt with a shorter big contract in wallace who fill a couple of needs for that roster  (veteran mature leadership and defensive specialist wing).
Instead of having an unneeded center at 11m for 4 years...
they could develop they young guys until wallace comes out of their book and they go after a free agent at the time to start competing for playoff experience a la wizards...
plus the pick!!

Re: L. Sanders for G. Wallace and pick
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2014, 11:18:02 PM »

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Yeah, I guess you have to look at this as two potential trades:

Asik for the TPE (if this is actually a real thing) OR
Sanders for Wallace and a [late] first

We obviously don't give up anything to get Asik, but in the 2nd trade we are only packaging a first with Wallace (to essentially rid his contract). It should also be noted that Asik is an expiring so there is no commitment after the season.

I am not a huge Asik guy, but 11m/yr over four years is really taking a chance. If Sanders panned out, it would be a nice move; if not, he could become our newest LaFrentz.

Re: L. Sanders for G. Wallace and pick
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2014, 11:18:37 PM »

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I mean, sure.  It would likely take two picks to get rid of Wallace, certainly one, if we got nothing back.  But to get Larry Sanders as well?  Danny would do that any day of the week.  The bucks, not so much.

Re: L. Sanders for G. Wallace and pick
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2014, 11:24:12 PM »

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For the 17th pick and Wallace it's probably hard to say no.

His off court issues are serious but he's also a guy that is severely p---ed about his playing situation- he signed the huge deal & then the Bucks decided to tank their hearts out so he has been stuck in no mans land.
If you've seen him in interviews he's a an angry guy who wants to win.
If they take Embid he should be available nice and cheap.

Depends on what Danny thinks of his mental/ off court stuff.
He may think Asik is too reliable comparatively.
Sanders potential on a good team is disgusting in a good way. His anticipation and rim protection are elite. He's young too.
Hopefully he only smokes the majority of his weed in the offseason
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Re: L. Sanders for G. Wallace and pick
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2014, 11:26:38 PM »

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If you're a celtics fan you have to say yes to that! Getting rid of Wallace's contract and bringing in a legit rim protector without jeapordizing our young core or really valuable draft picks. That being said I'm really scared to trade away the clips pick until we see how the whole Sterling thing works out. Clips could dismantle team and be awful if players demand trades

Re: L. Sanders for G. Wallace and pick
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2014, 11:30:18 PM »

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If the Bucks draft Embiid, he's a bit of a project with injury concerns, so the smart idea would be to go with Sanders as the starting center going into the season and give him a chance to rebuild his value while bringing Embiid along slowly, trying to trade Sanders only when they are convinced Embiid is ready to take over the starting role.

Sanders for Wallace and a pick seems more like a trade you might make in 2015.

What about Keith Bogans, Joel Anthony, and a pick for Sanders?  This would be Plan C or D for me because I'd prefer going after Asik, but if Bogans' contract isn't used anywhere, then giving the Bucks some salary savings plus a guy suited to being a stop-gap short-term starter while they wait for Embiid to develop would make sense.

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Re: L. Sanders for G. Wallace and pick
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2014, 11:30:41 PM »

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For the 17th pick and Wallace it's probably hard to say no.

His off court issues are serious but he's also a guy that is severely p---ed about his playing situation- he signed the huge deal & then the Bucks decided to tank their hearts out so he has been stuck in no mans land.
If you've seen him in interviews he's a an angry guy who wants to win.
If they take Embid he should be available nice and cheap.

Depends on what Danny thinks of his mental/ off court stuff.
He may think Asik is too reliable comparatively.
Sanders potential on a good team is disgusting in a good way. His anticipation and rim protection are elite. He's young too.
Hopefully he only smokes the majority of his weed in the offseason

I'm sure that for Wallace and 17, Danny doesn't think twice about it.  Sanders is way too good, and his contract isn't extravagant for a starting center.  The likelihood that pick 17 is as good as Sanders is pretty low.  And you're moving on from Wallace.  I'm one of the few Wallace defenders on this blog, and I think not doing that trade should be grounds for firing.

Re: L. Sanders for G. Wallace and pick
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2014, 11:45:01 PM »

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Bucks easily say no.

Not sure the Bucks could get much else for Sanders. His value is at an all time low after his injury and legal problems. He's making 11 million starting next season to play more or less the same role as John Henson.

I'd be ecstatic to see Sanders in Green barring he could stay healthy. It seems like forever since we've had a legit shot blocking center.

You do realise that Wallace was one of the worst players in the NBA last year, is one one of the worst contacts in the NBA, and is also injured...right?

Re: L. Sanders for G. Wallace and pick
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2014, 12:50:03 AM »

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Bucks easily say no.

Not sure the Bucks could get much else for Sanders. His value is at an all time low after his injury and legal problems. He's making 11 million starting next season to play more or less the same role as John Henson.

I'd be ecstatic to see Sanders in Green barring he could stay healthy. It seems like forever since we've had a legit shot blocking center.

You do realise that Wallace was one of the worst players in the NBA last year, is one one of the worst contacts in the NBA, and is also injured...right?


Wallace was one of the most overpaid players, for sure.  Way too much $$ for what he does on the court now.

But he was far, far from one of the worst players in the league.  Still a useful role player to have off the bench.
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Re: L. Sanders for G. Wallace and pick
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2014, 12:24:07 PM »

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Bucks easily say no.

Not sure the Bucks could get much else for Sanders. His value is at an all time low after his injury and legal problems. He's making 11 million starting next season to play more or less the same role as John Henson.

I'd be ecstatic to see Sanders in Green barring he could stay healthy. It seems like forever since we've had a legit shot blocking center.

You do realise that Wallace was one of the worst players in the NBA last year, is one one of the worst contacts in the NBA, and is also injured...right?

Wallace had a +10.00 Efficiency Rating and was a rather good defender.  He was HARDLY one of the worst players in the NBA last year.  And he played HURT!!

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Re: L. Sanders for G. Wallace and pick
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2014, 12:27:03 PM »

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Bucks easily say no.

Not sure the Bucks could get much else for Sanders. His value is at an all time low after his injury and legal problems. He's making 11 million starting next season to play more or less the same role as John Henson.

I'd be ecstatic to see Sanders in Green barring he could stay healthy. It seems like forever since we've had a legit shot blocking center.

You do realise that Wallace was one of the worst players in the NBA last year, is one one of the worst contacts in the NBA, and is also injured...right?

Wallace had a +10.00 Efficiency Rating and was a rather good defender.  He was HARDLY one of the worst players in the NBA last year.  And he played HURT!!

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From a contract to production standpoint, he is.


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Re: L. Sanders for G. Wallace and pick
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2014, 12:40:50 PM »

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Bucks easily say no.

Not sure the Bucks could get much else for Sanders. His value is at an all time low after his injury and legal problems. He's making 11 million starting next season to play more or less the same role as John Henson.

I'd be ecstatic to see Sanders in Green barring he could stay healthy. It seems like forever since we've had a legit shot blocking center.

You do realise that Wallace was one of the worst players in the NBA last year, is one one of the worst contacts in the NBA, and is also injured...right?

Wallace had a +10.00 Efficiency Rating and was a rather good defender.  He was HARDLY one of the worst players in the NBA last year.  And he played HURT!!

Smitty77

From a contract to production standpoint, he is.
Given his aversion to shooting he killed our offense whenever he was in the lineup. Undid all of his defensive work and rebounding