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The minimum Danny is likely to do over the summer
« on: April 23, 2014, 10:23:55 PM »

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One way or another for next season (so he doesn't screw with the ticket holders) i predict at minimal he is going to get a rim protector  (at the worse using the 17th pick as trade bait) unless someone pays up for Green and/or Rondo (but not actively shopping them around).  Kevin Love trade is not happening bc you will overpay for a guy that will be a FA in 2015, is a mediocre defender plus guys like Sullinger/KO show promise to take the leap at the PF position . Danny will attempt to get Anthony into the team but won't offer max and Anthony wants to sign with a contender.  So there is like a 5 percent chance Anthony signs. 

At minimal what to expect for next season imo:

- Acquire a rim protector - Asik (He wants to start before becoming a FA in 2015-2016) or Mozgov  (Mcgee will be back to start next season).  No FAs worth overpaying for
- Pick the BPA(s) at the draft - 6th man off the bench/assist with the rebuild/insurance
- Resign AB to a 3 year 7 million per year deal
- Give this current unit (with Rondo, Green, AB as the leaders) one more chance before the real fireworks go off by the 2015 trade deadline (Danny actively shopping)

2014-2015 lineup

Asik/Mozgov
Sullinger/KO
Green
AB
Rondo

6th man
draft picks

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Re: The minimal Danny is likely to do over the summer
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2014, 10:33:12 PM »

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Re-sign Avery to 7mm per for 3 years??  No way.  See what kind of offer he receives before deciding whether he is worth it.  I can't imagine any team would offer that much for an undersized 2 guard.  I like him, but not that much.

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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2014, 10:46:55 PM »

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Re-sign Avery to 7mm per for 3 years??  No way.  See what kind of offer he receives before deciding whether he is worth it.  I can't imagine any team would offer that much for an undersized 2 guard.  I like him, but not that much.

If you look at a guy like Bass, is AB worth more than him?  The answer is yes.
Is AB worth more than Green?? Well that can be argued. Probably close to or just below
So thats why 7 million imo makes sense. 

You can also compare AB to Courtney Lee and argue AB is worth more.

Re: The minimal Danny is likely to do over the summer
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2014, 10:47:59 PM »

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If no deal for Asik happens, I could see Danny doing a sign and trade with Phoenix for Emeka Okafor on a cheap one or two year contract.   

Alternatively, I could see Danny bringing on a cheap young option like Lavoy Allen or Kyle O'Quinn to be a passable near term solution at center.
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Re: The minimal Danny is likely to do over the summer
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2014, 10:56:44 PM »

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If no deal for Asik happens, I could see Danny doing a sign and trade with Phoenix for Emeka Okafor on a cheap one or two year contract.   

Alternatively, I could see Danny bringing on a cheap young option like Lavoy Allen or Kyle O'Quinn to be a passable near term solution at center.

I agree. Or how about Henry "Celtics Killa" Sims. But man those would be last resort kind of pickups. We would really need to luck out with Embiid then

Faverani is also considered a last resort. He should know now what it takes to get playing time.

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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2014, 11:08:38 PM »

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Re-sign Avery to 7mm per for 3 years??  No way.  See what kind of offer he receives before deciding whether he is worth it.  I can't imagine any team would offer that much for an undersized 2 guard.  I like him, but not that much.

If you look at a guy like Bass, is AB worth more than him?  The answer is yes.
Is AB worth more than Green?? Well that can be argued. Probably close to or just below
So thats why 7 million imo makes sense. 

You can also compare AB to Courtney Lee and argue AB is worth more.
No one will pay a short SG 7m who can only chuck long 2s and cut
not to mention his defense isn't elite anymore
5m for potential is reasonable, otherwise he can go

Re: The minimal Danny is likely to do over the summer
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2014, 11:44:11 PM »

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Re-sign Avery to 7mm per for 3 years??  No way.  See what kind of offer he receives before deciding whether he is worth it.  I can't imagine any team would offer that much for an undersized 2 guard.  I like him, but not that much.

I can see another team offering that.  Any team with a bit of pressure to make the playoffs next season that had hopes of signing Lance Stephenson and was disappointed will probably be thinking about using some of that cap space to go after the next best available SG, and I'd put Bradley above Evan Turner or Nick Young.  I suppose Thabo Sefolosha is the other option.

I think Ainge matches $7m/year for three years, even if the Celtics end up drafting a SG, unless he has another transaction lined up that requires the cap space.  He might be more tentative about four years.
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Re-sign Avery to 7mm per for 3 years??  No way.  See what kind of offer he receives before deciding whether he is worth it.  I can't imagine any team would offer that much for an undersized 2 guard.  I like him, but not that much.

If you look at a guy like Bass, is AB worth more than him?  The answer is yes.
Is AB worth more than Green?? Well that can be argued. Probably close to or just below
So thats why 7 million imo makes sense. 

You can also compare AB to Courtney Lee and argue AB is worth more.
No one will pay a short SG 7m who can only chuck long 2s and cut
not to mention his defense isn't elite anymore
5m for potential is reasonable, otherwise he can go

His defense is elite, a down year but he's one of the best perimeter defenders in the league.

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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2014, 11:49:15 PM »

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Re-sign Avery to 7mm per for 3 years??  No way.  See what kind of offer he receives before deciding whether he is worth it.  I can't imagine any team would offer that much for an undersized 2 guard.  I like him, but not that much.

If you look at a guy like Bass, is AB worth more than him?  The answer is yes.
Is AB worth more than Green?? Well that can be argued. Probably close to or just below
So thats why 7 million imo makes sense. 

You can also compare AB to Courtney Lee and argue AB is worth more.
No one will pay a short SG 7m who can only chuck long 2s and cut
not to mention his defense isn't elite anymore
5m for potential is reasonable, otherwise he can go

His defense is elite, a down year but he's one of the best perimeter defenders in the league.

best perimeter defenders, no, not with the number of times he gets burned by mediocre guards. Best on the ball defender maybe.

Re: The minimal Danny is likely to do over the summer
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2014, 11:51:16 PM »

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No one will pay a short SG 7m who can only chuck long 2s and cut

Well, it's good for Bradley then that shot 39.5% on threes this season and seems to be expanding his range beyond just the corners.  I wouldn't be shocked to see him improve his three-point shooting from the wings next season.
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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2014, 11:52:30 PM »

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Re-sign Avery to 7mm per for 3 years??  No way.  See what kind of offer he receives before deciding whether he is worth it.  I can't imagine any team would offer that much for an undersized 2 guard.  I like him, but not that much.

If you look at a guy like Bass, is AB worth more than him?  The answer is yes.
Is AB worth more than Green?? Well that can be argued. Probably close to or just below
So thats why 7 million imo makes sense. 

You can also compare AB to Courtney Lee and argue AB is worth more.
No one will pay a short SG 7m who can only chuck long 2s and cut
not to mention his defense isn't elite anymore
5m for potential is reasonable, otherwise he can go

His defense is elite, a down year but he's one of the best perimeter defenders in the league.

best perimeter defenders, no, not with the number of times he gets burned by mediocre guards. Best on the ball defender maybe.

Who are these mediocre guards that are burning him?

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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2014, 11:52:59 PM »

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best perimeter defenders, no, not with the number of times he gets burned by mediocre guards. Best on the ball defender maybe.

Are you relying on anecdotal evidence which is unreliable for conveying long-term patterns or can you provide quantifiable data about how often different guards in the league get burned by mediocre guards?
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If no deal for Asik happens, I could see Danny doing a sign and trade with Phoenix for Emeka Okafor on a cheap one or two year contract.   

Since sign-and-trade contracts must be at least three years, I don't see that happening.  Of course, only the first year has to be guaranteed, but are you expecting some other free agent signing that would preclude the use of the MLE to sign someone like Okafor?
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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2014, 11:57:19 PM »

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Re-sign Avery to 7mm per for 3 years??  No way.  See what kind of offer he receives before deciding whether he is worth it.  I can't imagine any team would offer that much for an undersized 2 guard.  I like him, but not that much.

If you look at a guy like Bass, is AB worth more than him?  The answer is yes.
Is AB worth more than Green?? Well that can be argued. Probably close to or just below
So thats why 7 million imo makes sense. 

You can also compare AB to Courtney Lee and argue AB is worth more.
No one will pay a short SG 7m who can only chuck long 2s and cut
not to mention his defense isn't elite anymore
5m for potential is reasonable, otherwise he can go

His defense is elite, a down year but he's one of the best perimeter defenders in the league.

best perimeter defenders, no, not with the number of times he gets burned by mediocre guards. Best on the ball defender maybe.

Who are these mediocre guards that are burning him?
Remember Felton?

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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2014, 11:59:55 PM »

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No one will pay a short SG 7m who can only chuck long 2s and cut

Well, it's good for Bradley then that shot 39.5% on threes this season and seems to be expanding his range beyond just the corners.  I wouldn't be shocked to see him improve his three-point shooting from the wings next season.
Yes he seemed to find his range back a bit
if he keep on training i can see that happen, but not now