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Re: Who are your top 10 in the draft?
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2014, 10:56:45 PM »

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2. Embiid
3. Parker
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6. Randle
7. Gordon
8. Ennis
9. Smart
10. Warren
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Re: Who are your top 10 in the draft?
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2014, 11:11:25 PM »

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6. Kyle Anderson - Slo mo or not, just too much skills not to go in the top 10.  He has been a walking triple double machine from the start of the year.  Amazing passing skills for a sf, can rebound, block shots, score on the drive, has a mid range game and now has a three point jump shot. His defense at the next level is a concern, but he is so long and has a high iq to make it up in other ways. 


Woah, Anderson as the 6th best prospect? That is bold. I like him. I cant help but think Boris Diaw when i have seen him play. He is crafty and can fill a box score. One could argue that a Boris Diaw is worth a number 6 pick. I wish i saw the ucla v Arizona pac 12 title game. Arizona is not shy on athletic defenders, yet Anderson carved them up. UCLA v Florida on Thursday is must watch television.

I think there is a good chance Anderson is available at number 18 though. His slow speed on defense will scare teams off. I also wonder what kind of player he is on offense off the ball. If a guy like Rondo, Irving, Paul, etc is dominating the ball, how effective will Anderson be? NBA teams love their 3 and D wings these days.

I think the 3 and D thing, and probably some advanced metrics, are holding TJ Warren back as well. I like him in the teens. There is more to being a successful wing than only being a 3 and D role player. He is so active and has an impressive nose for scoring, even when his shot isn't falling from the outside.

Kyle Anderson and Rondo can work.  It would be like Rondo and Pierce working.

Anderson is just a better body away from being someone like Magic, but with a 3 pt shot. That is a great player.

TJ Warren is a streaky shooter and tries hard on defense. But he is an incredible , efficient scorer.  His headfakes, step fakes from the three to the basket is advanced. He is also a very consistent player. Consistently almost scoring 20 points on a really mediocre team. Multiple 30 and a few 40 point games.  And against good teams , he didn't stop scoring.

Re: Who are your top 10 in the draft?
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2014, 11:13:52 PM »

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Re: Who are your top 10 in the draft?
« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2014, 11:21:43 PM »

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1. Wiggins
2. Embiid
3. Parker
4. Exum
5. Vonleh
6. Randle
7. Gordon
8. Ennis
9. Smart
10. Warren

This but I'd take out TJ Warren and replace him with Cleanthony Early.

I think even coming from a loss, he played himself into the top 10.
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Re: Who are your top 10 in the draft?
« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2014, 11:22:03 PM »

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6. Kyle Anderson - Slo mo or not, just too much skills not to go in the top 10.  He has been a walking triple double machine from the start of the year.  Amazing passing skills for a sf, can rebound, block shots, score on the drive, has a mid range game and now has a three point jump shot. His defense at the next level is a concern, but he is so long and has a high iq to make it up in other ways. 


Woah, Anderson as the 6th best prospect? That is bold. I like him. I cant help but think Boris Diaw when i have seen him play. He is crafty and can fill a box score. One could argue that a Boris Diaw is worth a number 6 pick. I wish i saw the ucla v Arizona pac 12 title game. Arizona is not shy on athletic defenders, yet Anderson carved them up. UCLA v Florida on Thursday is must watch television.

I think there is a good chance Anderson is available at number 18 though. His slow speed on defense will scare teams off. I also wonder what kind of player he is on offense off the ball. If a guy like Rondo, Irving, Paul, etc is dominating the ball, how effective will Anderson be? NBA teams love their 3 and D wings these days.

I think the 3 and D thing, and probably some advanced metrics, are holding TJ Warren back as well. I like him in the teens. There is more to being a successful wing than only being a 3 and D role player. He is so active and has an impressive nose for scoring, even when his shot isn't falling from the outside.

Kyle Anderson and Rondo can work.  It would be like Rondo and Pierce working.

Anderson is just a better body away from being someone like Magic, but with a 3 pt shot. That is a great player.

TJ Warren is a streaky shooter and tries hard on defense. But he is an incredible , efficient scorer.  His headfakes, step fakes from the three to the basket is advanced. He is also a very consistent player. Consistently almost scoring 20 points on a really mediocre team. Multiple 30 and a few 40 point games.  And against good teams , he didn't stop scoring.

Good point about pierce and rondo. Every great team needs multiple shot creators. Another example could be Diaw and Ginobili thriving alongside Parker. Anderson could do just fine.

Considering Warren is only a 20 year old sophomore, his scoring game is indeed super advanced.

Re: Who are your top 10 in the draft?
« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2014, 11:47:45 PM »

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Wiggins
Parker
Embiid
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Smart
Randle
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Gordon
Saric
Russ Smith (It's a twist!)

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Re: Who are your top 10 in the draft?
« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2014, 02:13:40 AM »

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I mean, after about, say, pick 7, I'd like to draft Russ Smith because he's entertaining.
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Re: Who are your top 10 in the draft?
« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2014, 07:48:18 AM »

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1. Wiggins

2. Embiid

3. Parker

4. Exum

5. Randle

6. Smart - Underrated player because the college game, with it's condensed zone D, is not ideal for his game. In the pro's he becomes a very difficult matchup because of his combination of quickness, strength, and ballhandling.

7. Vonleh

8. Saric

9. Ennis

10. Nurkic - Huge and young. If he were in the NCAA he could very well be projected to go much higher.

Next 5 (no specific order) - McDermott, Gordon, Hood, Smith, & Cauley-Stein

Re: Who are your top 10 in the draft?
« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2014, 08:38:02 AM »

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A note on Saric: last I saw, he had a deal with his current team to stay for multiple seasons, and it's unlikely he'll even declare for the draft this season.
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Re: Who are your top 10 in the draft?
« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2014, 09:55:13 AM »

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This is my ranking not how I see it going down. Also looking at it in general not just for Cs

1. Embiid
2. Exum
3. Wiggins
4. Parker
5. Randle
6. Vonleh
7. Smart
8. Gordon
9. McDermott
10. Capela

11. Nurkic
12. Ennis
13. Saric (dont think he declares)
14. Warren
15. Cauley-Stein
16. Kyle Anderson
17. Stauskas
18. Harrell
19. Haiston
20. Grant
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Re: Who are your top 10 in the draft?
« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2014, 10:10:01 AM »

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I'm having a hard time getting the Ennis and Gordon love here. I don't like them at all for the Cs. If it came down to drafting either of them or trading the pick, it's a no-brainer for me.

I've been on the Kyle Anderson train for a long time. 14 double doubles, one triple double and numerous games with numbers across the board. I'd pick him over Ennis and Gordon, and as high as I am on him, I'd be hard-pressed to take him with our first unless it was 7 or worse.


I'd consider him with our second if he lasts, but I doubt he will.

Check out the video in this article link of UCLA's semi-final Pac-12 demolishing of in the semis of the Pac 12 tourney:

http://www.latimes.com/sports/college/ucla/la-sp-ucla-stanford-pac-12-20140315,0,5346311.story#axzz2w36ePgTC

It's the game highlights, but might as well be labeled "Kyle Anderson" highlights.

His anticipation, court awareness and vision are elite. The biggest knock on him is that he's not uber-athletic. Neither is Tyler Ennis and lots of people LOVE that guy. I don't get it. I take Anderson over Ennis 100x out of 100.

A 6'9" point guard/forward with a 7'2' wingspan.

And he's far more skilled than Gordon in all areas of the game. He just doesn't have the physical tools and the defense, but his BBIQ is impressive and will make up for a lot, especially positionally on defense.

Embid
Wiggins
Parker
Exum

Vonleh
Smart
Randle?

Anderson
Harris
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Re: Who are your top 10 in the draft?
« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2014, 11:19:01 AM »

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Csfan, for myself I can tell you why I like the idea of drafting Gordon so much -- in short, I think his athleticism, defensive versatility, and ability to impact a game in a big way on the defensive end (he has "highlight" defensive potential) while presenting mismatches at either forward position would give our team something it lacks right now.  He'd add another dimension.

Combine him with a move for a solid defensive center e.g. Asik and Rondo's continued recovery and I think that could transform the Celtics into an elite defensive team before very long.

Lacking the ability to add an elite scorer with superstar potential (i.e. Wiggins or Parker) or a defensive anchor with star potential (i.e. Embiid) with our top draft pick, I'd be happy to land as consolation a player who can fill a lot of gaps in our currently underwhelming lineup and provide a welcome respite from the sleepy, drifting style of play we're currently getting from the SF position.
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Re: Who are your top 10 in the draft?
« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2014, 11:36:49 AM »

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A note on Saric: last I saw, he had a deal with his current team to stay for multiple seasons, and it's unlikely he'll even declare for the draft this season.

Saric's deal is reportedly for three years, and for about as much money as the #6 overall pick would make in the first three years of his deal.  It would actually make a lot of sense for Saric to enter the draft this year, because three years after being drafted, he is no longer subject to the rookie salary scale.  Having that three year period end at the same time his new contract ends would give him more leverage for his next contract, since his NBA team wouldn't have to buy him out, and European teams would know that he wasn't subject to a salary restriction in the NBA, and would thus have to raise their offers.

It will lower his draft stock considerably, but if he's not going to come over until his slot restriction is gone, that's of little concern to him.  It would definitely be a good long-term play to try to get him, maybe picking up an extra pick in the 20s to make it happen.  When he comes to the NBA in 2017, assuming he continues to develop, he'll be ready to step into a major role immediately.  And if he never develops, while you've cost yourself the pick, you never have to sign him to a contract.

Re: Who are your top 10 in the draft?
« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2014, 11:51:10 AM »

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Wiggins
Parker
Embiid
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Smart
Randle
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Gordon
Saric
Russ Smith (It's a twist!)

This is most in line with my thoughts.  Especially the first two tiers.  Anything past pick #7 or so, I'm not too concerned about at the moment. 

In terms of the first 6, pretty much agreed although I think I like Parker over Wiggins at the #1 slot.


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Re: Who are your top 10 in the draft?
« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2014, 11:57:46 AM »

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I think I'd take Wiggins over Parker, simply because I think the NBA game will agree with Wiggins and that he'll develop into a much better scorer over time than we've yet seen.  I also like his defensive potential, compared to Parker, who might end up, like Melo, being best hidden at the 4 spot next to a large center.  I'd be thrilled to end up with either, though.


Randle is a tough case for me.  He's probably going to be a similar player to Zach Randolph or David Lee, but I'd worry that he might end up closer to Carl Landry or Ty Hansbrough.  I feel like he might be the most NBA-ready player in that top 5-7 group, but his role is going to be essentially the same as the one Sullinger has played for our team.  The two couldn't possibly play together.

Danny could always trade whichever of them he thinks has a lower ceiling in exchange for a player we can use now, but I don't like the idea of being somewhat forced to make a trade like that.  If you're trading a young player on a rookie contract with a record or expectation of high productivity, you want to get the best return possible because that's a really valuable asset.  Having the appearance of "needing" to make a trade doesn't put you in a good position to do that.
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