BOS/MINNY/PHILLY/CLE trade

[sdceltsfan]

Boston Trades:

Jeff Green (to MINN)
Brandon Bass (to MINN)
Avery Bradley (to CLE)
Kris Humpries (to PHILLY)

1st and 2nd round pick to Minn
1st and 2nd round pick to Philly

Boston Receives:

Kevin love
Evan Turner
Dion Waiters


Minnesota Trades:

Kevin Love (to BOS)
Luc Richard Mbah a Moute (to Philly)


Minnesota Receives:

Jeff Green (from BOS)
Brandon Bass (from BOS)
Spencer Hawes (from Philly)

1st and 2nd rounder from Boston
2nd rounder from Cleveland


Philly Trades:

Spencer Hawes (To Minn)
Evan Turner (to BOS)
Thaddeus Young (to CLE)

Philly Receives:

Kris Humphries (from BOS)
L.R. Mbah a Moute (from Minn)
Earl Clark (from CLE)

1st and 2nd round pick from Boston
2nd round pick from CLE


Cleveland Trades:

Dion Waiters (to BOS)
Earl Clark (to Philly)

2nd round pick (to Minn)
2nd round pick (to Philly)

Cleveland Receives:

Thaddeus Young (from Philly)
Avery Bradley (from Boston)


Why for Philly?

Before you guys blast me and say that Philly is getting heisted, I am suggesting they do consider this because they have been rumored to want to shed all 3 of those contracts, and would be willing to even take on bad ones, just to get their hands on a couple picks. Not only do they net 3 picks, but they don't even take on negative cap hits. It allows them to tank to the complete bottom, like they seem to want.

Why for Cleveland?

Dion Waiters is unhappy there, they are unhappy with him. Earl Clark has underperformed. They need to keep Kyrie happy, which means getting more competitive. Thaddeus Young is a solid big who can score underneath. Bradley can be a solid 2/backup PG, and give them some defensive toughness. It is an instant improvement to their roster, and only costs them two 2nd rounders and two players they don't seem to want.

Why for Minnesota?

Push will eventually come to shove with K-Love. I don't see them getting much better of an offer than a more than solid C in Hawes, another solid big in Bass, and Jeff Green.

They get a 1st and 2nd rounder from Boston, and a 2nd from Cleveland. They also shed LR Mbah a Moute. I've seen All-Stars get traded for much less.

Why for Boston?

We get the best player in the deal, an expiring/buy low opportunity in Evan Turner, who we can consider re-signing, and get to buy low on Dion Waiters, who has a ton of talent. Some of the draft ammo gets unloaded. I would even consider adding additional picks to this deal to go to Philly/Minn if necessary.


New Boston Lineup

PG: Rondo/Pressey/Bayless
SG: Waiters/Bogans/Turner
SF: Turner/Wallace/Johnson
PF: Love/KO/Sully/Faverani
C:  Sully/KO/Anthony/Faverani

Youth with upside, two All-Stars and top 3-5 players at their position in Rondo/Love. We get much more competitive right away, and still have some draft ammo and cap-space to improve the bench.

[manl_lui]

Minny easily says no, they would want at least 2 first rounders for Love + Green + Bradley or Bass at least...even with that package, Minny would probably still say no

[RJ87]

Not enough for Minnesota. At the very least, they'd also ask for Sully - I'm thinking Jeff + Sully + Hawes + at minimum 2 1st rounders. And one of those 1sts would likely have to be 2014.

[Geo123]

Besides being WAY TOO deep of a trade, It's not happening.  It's been mentioned that Love isn't available plus the TWolves aren't getting near enough for him.   They get Hawes who's a FA and not likely to sign with them since they already have a good Center in Pekovic. Green and Bass who don't really help them develop (because if you trade Love you are starting almost over) who doesn't help them much and a #1 pick (that at least is  value).

Now from our standpoint we are getting a player that most every expert thinks is going to go back out west when he is a FA in Kevin Love (read the articles).  So you are trading 2 #1 picks and 3 good players for a little over a year of Kevin Love and an underperforming Waiters because Evan Turner is a FA who you probably won't resign.  So basically in 1.5 years you could have Waiters to show for the.  Not real smart IMO

Philly receives our lottery pick (which is what it would have to be for them to trade Hawes, Young and Turner).  So they would be OK with the deal.

Cleveland basically trades Waiters for Bradley which in the long run may help them since Bradley has proven himself more than Waiters...