A. Sherrod Blakely: Pelicans could be in play for Rondo

[kozlodoev]

Someone who's played more games than a comparative player is at an advantage in field goal percetage simply because he's played more and thus has the better opportunity for a higher field goal percentage. Is this not correct? I could be wrong but common sense would tell me that is correct.

I'm not sure on what level this made sense to you. When you take more shots, you  have a chance to make more and also to miss more.

The only thing that happens with more games is that the resulting shooting percentage is likely closer to the player's true ability, as it is less influenced by fluky streaks of good or poor shooting.

[gpap]

I have yet to hear a deal rumored that I would take without reservations, which is probably why no deal has been struck.

+1 to this.

This is probably going to be a quiet deadline.

For Rondo, yes.

I actually think Rondo gets moved by Thursday. There's way too much smoke for there not be a fire.

[Snakehead]

I have yet to hear a deal rumored that I would take without reservations, which is probably why no deal has been struck.

+1 to this.

This is probably going to be a quiet deadline.

For Rondo, yes.

I actually think Rondo gets moved by Thursday. There's way too much smoke for there not be a fire.

By your logic Rondo has been traded several times already in his career.

[gpap]

Someone who's played more games than a comparative player is at an advantage in field goal percetage simply because he's played more and thus has the better opportunity for a higher field goal percentage. Is this not correct? I could be wrong but common sense would tell me that is correct.

I'm not sure on what level this made sense to you. When you take more shots, you  have a chance to make more and also to miss more.

The only thing that happens with more games is that the resulting shooting percentage is likely closer to the player's true ability, as it is less influenced by fluky streaks of good or poor shooting.

Ok, I understand. My mistake.

[gpap]

I have yet to hear a deal rumored that I would take without reservations, which is probably why no deal has been struck.

+1 to this.

This is probably going to be a quiet deadline.

For Rondo, yes.

I actually think Rondo gets moved by Thursday. There's way too much smoke for there not be a fire.

By your logic Rondo has been traded several times already in his career.

I am just going by all these "rumors" I hear, that's all.

Could be they are all BS, which wouldn't be the first time.

[Snakehead]

I have yet to hear a deal rumored that I would take without reservations, which is probably why no deal has been struck.

+1 to this.

This is probably going to be a quiet deadline.

For Rondo, yes.

I actually think Rondo gets moved by Thursday. There's way too much smoke for there not be a fire.

By your logic Rondo has been traded several times already in his career.

I am just going by all these "rumors" I hear, that's all.

Could be they are all BS, which wouldn't be the first time.

Exactly.

Like Faf said, none of these offers I've seen have been so appealing.  The rumors with Rondo never are.

There's been a ton of rumors over the years.  He just has become a media darling (because hey, the rumors literally put money in these writers pockets because rumors mean page views on their blogs or sites).

I don't doubt there are teams making offers on Rondo.  Rondo is great and if the Kings could get him they should get him.  I just don't think Ainge is trying to trade him.  I'm sure he'd listen to an offer.

[gpap]

I have yet to hear a deal rumored that I would take without reservations, which is probably why no deal has been struck.

+1 to this.

This is probably going to be a quiet deadline.

For Rondo, yes.

I actually think Rondo gets moved by Thursday. There's way too much smoke for there not be a fire.

By your logic Rondo has been traded several times already in his career.

I am just going by all these "rumors" I hear, that's all.

Could be they are all BS, which wouldn't be the first time.

Exactly.

Like Faf said, none of these offers I've seen have been so appealing.  The rumors with Rondo never are.

There's been a ton of rumors over the years.  He just has become a media darling (because hey, the rumors literally put money in these writers pockets because rumors mean page views on their blogs or sites).

I don't doubt there are teams making offers on Rondo.  Rondo is great and if the Kings could get him they should get him.  I just don't think Ainge is trying to trade him.  I'm sure he'd listen to an offer.

I thought I read that the Kings thing didn't happen because Rondo wouldn't sign an extension with them, no?

[BballTim]

Wow, the overvaluing of Rondo continues

Don't understand what some see in a point guard that can't shoot.

Guess it's just me.

Btw, Jrue Holiday is a pretty darn good player.

You recognize that Rondo has better career, and better by corresponding age, shooting stats than Holiday, right?  If you think Rondo can't shoot, then you'll love the opportunity to criticize Holiday if he becomes a Celtic.  I'm not saying Rondo is the best shooter ever.  He's not. But he's shown himself to be better than holiday at that.  He's also unequivocally a better passer.  It would be a real downgrade, and not worth it at all if the only thing to make up the difference were Austin Rivers.

Just looked up their career numbers. Granted, stats don't always tell the story, but if the claim being made is that Rondo is a better player than Holliday, I would question that

Career numbers

PPG
Rondo/11 PPG
Holliday/13.5 PPG

FT%
Rondo - 620%
Holliday - 783%

3P%
Rondo - .253%
Holliday - .376%

Field Goal Percantage
Rondo - .480
Holliday - .438
Rondo wins by a bit BUT Rondo has also played 485 career games.
Holiday has played 332. That's AWFULLY close for a guy who's played almost 150 games more than the other.

Assists and rebounds, yes Rondo takes the cake in those two departments.

I guess it's all subjective on what type of point guard you prefer.

But, the numbers dictate Holiday is a superior offensive player.

  Rondo's a superior offensive player to Holiday. That's the problem with many of Rondo's detractors, they don't really get that there's sometimes more to a point guard's contribution to an offense than scoring. And how the heck does the number of career games played affect fg%?

Someone who's played more games than a comparative player is at an advantage in field goal percetage simply because he's played more and thus has the better opportunity for a higher field goal percentage. Is this not correct? I could be wrong but common sense would tell me that is correct.

I brought this up because considering that Rondo has played over 150 more career games than Holiday, their career field goal percentage is awfully close.

  No, that doesn't make sense to me, and .48 to .438 isn't all that close. The difference is over 10%.

[Snakehead]

I have yet to hear a deal rumored that I would take without reservations, which is probably why no deal has been struck.

+1 to this.

This is probably going to be a quiet deadline.

For Rondo, yes.

I actually think Rondo gets moved by Thursday. There's way too much smoke for there not be a fire.

By your logic Rondo has been traded several times already in his career.

I am just going by all these "rumors" I hear, that's all.

Could be they are all BS, which wouldn't be the first time.

Exactly.

Like Faf said, none of these offers I've seen have been so appealing.  The rumors with Rondo never are.

There's been a ton of rumors over the years.  He just has become a media darling (because hey, the rumors literally put money in these writers pockets because rumors mean page views on their blogs or sites).

I don't doubt there are teams making offers on Rondo.  Rondo is great and if the Kings could get him they should get him.  I just don't think Ainge is trying to trade him.  I'm sure he'd listen to an offer.

I thought I read that the Kings thing didn't happen because Rondo wouldn't sign an extension with them, no?

I don't believe enough any of this stuff being written to accept that detail as fact.

Woj is the one iron clad source I will pretty much always believe in (even if I don't like him much) and he said he has heard nothing about Rondo on Sirius XM today.

[kozlodoev]

No, that doesn't make sense to me, and .48 to .438 isn't all that close. The difference is over 10%.

I'm not sure Rondo will ever shoot 48% in a season again. The shot selection will be quite different without Pierce, Allen and Garnett.

[CoachBo]

Wow, the overvaluing of Rondo continues

Don't understand what some see in a point guard that can't shoot.

  Probably because they've seen the way he can pass and run an offense.

I understand that my thoughts on Rondo as a player is very debatable.

It all depends on what you look for in a point guard.

I prefer a point guard that can offensively take over a game by himself.

Others prefer one who looks to create opportunities for his teammates.

It's all subjective. There's certainly no fact bearing that Holiday is a better player than Rondo and don't mean to slight any Rondo fans.

I just prefer a high scoring point guard, that's all.

Plus admittedly, I remember being pretty impressed with Holiday when he was a Sixer.

And therein lies the rub with Rondo. He is not a premier scorer - never has been, and never will be.

His value lies more in the teammates around him he can supply with the basketball, if said teammates are premier scorers - which none of them are on this basketball team.

And all of Rondo's substantial warts aside, that and that alone is why what value he has will not be maximized for a good while in Boston.

[zimbo]

Wow what is this like the fifth team? I cant wait to see what team is next .

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Jrue Holiday is a solid return if we get someone else other than Austin Rivers. Problem is, they don't have someone or something else.

[BigAlTheFuture]

I wonder if they tried to get Rondo at the draft last year and got turned down and settled for Jrue.

[LooseCannon]

Wow what is this like the fifth team? I cant wait to see what team is next .

Any team without a superstar point guard already in place should at least be thinking about it.

Upgrading from Jrue Holiday to Rajon Rondo is like upgrading from Omer Asik to Dwight Howard.