If Lakers pick falls in the top-8, would you trade Rondo for it?

[CFAN38]

Only if the lakers pick can get the Cs exum or Smart  and the Cs own pick lands Parker, embiid or wiggins.

[BballTim]

How about ......Wallace tied to Rondos ankle

And a top 5 or 6 pick ?




Good bye Rondo

  What are we going to do with the cap space that's so important that it's worth trading a player in his 20s who's a regular at the all-star game to get it?

[BleedGreen1989]

How about ......Wallace tied to Rondos ankle

And a top 5 or 6 pick ?




Good bye Rondo

  What are we going to do with the cap space that's so important that it's worth trading a player in his 20s who's a regular at the all-star game to get it?

Well the cap space isn't the real prize in this deal. It's the high lotto pick.

If you wouldn't do the deal, that's totally fine. With all due respect though, please don't take this thread in that direction.

[SHAQATTACK]

Only if the lakers pick can get the Cs exum or Smart  and the Cs own pick lands Parker, embiid or wiggins.

Yeah this is what I'm hoping for .

[lbgreen33]

Why would the Lakers Rent Rondo? Makes no sense to me, they already rented DH, and he moved on.  Who's to say the don't lose Rondo in free agency?  If we traded Rondo it wouldn't be his choice, who's to say he doesn't bolt in free agency?  To me that's the real challenge of trading Rondo.

[fitzhickey]

If it was top 6 I would. Pairing Exum or Smart win Embiid/Parker/Wiggins would be awesome. But I really wouldn't want to trade rondo for someone like Gordon

[LarBrd33]

If top 6 absolutely ... But with how well rondo has played lately you are unlikely to get a top 10 pick.  The lakers are intriguing because they will be able to absorb rondos salary or include Nash's expiring contract.  Kobe, rondo and Lebron could make some noise for the lakers next year

[JBcat]

If it was top 6 I would. Pairing Exum or Smart win Embiid/Parker/Wiggins would be awesome. But I really wouldn't want to trade rondo for someone like Gordon

Does anyone out there think Tyler Ennis could be just as good a pro if not better than Smart?  I like the kid.  If Exum is already gone and you make this trade, you could then make another trade down to draft this kid.  Probably can't grab him with our ATL/BKN pick.

[Eddie20]

why would someone do this? we'd have to use that pick to get a player that we HOPE will turn out to be as good as Rondo.  seems rather pointless when we already have someone that good

Easy...money. Rondo will be commanding max, or near max money, while a rookie will be playing under a much more cap friendly deal. So while it may be a risk, it's not as though it doesn't have it's merit.

  Hopefully the Celts aren't in a position where they need to trade high level talent away in order to have a lower payroll. If that's the case then following the team's going to suck until we get different owners/management.

It's not about payroll it's about value. Having a player locked up under his rookie scale salary and having the additional salary (say 10 million or so) to add another player(s) is excellent value.

You said that Rondo is a "regular all-star". Not sure if that's accurate. Maybe a "former all-star" is a better choice of words. In 2012 he replaced an injured Joe Johnson. Last year he was named by the fans, which had more do with him getting the popular vote then it did with his play or our team's 500 record. This year he didn't make it, but will get a pass because he was injured. However, how do things look going forward for his all-star regularity in a conference that has the likes of Irving, Wall, Rose, and Williams in it?

[LilRip]

I'd trade Rondo only if we can get the 4th or 5th pick. I'd draft Exum.

All this trade talk is quite reminiscent of when the sonics traded Ray Allen for the 5th pick and the sonics/thunder ended up with Durant and Jeff Green. In our case, we could end up with Wiggins (2nd) and Exum (5th) or something.

[nostar]

Nash/Smart
Kobe
Marion/Rush/Ariza @VetMin
Bosh
Pau

While I agree with your premise that team will never win anything, just like they weren't going to win anything with Dwight/Artest instead of Bosh/Marion. They have to go younger and more athletic or they're toast.

You left out Smart as their defacto starting PG and I'm not sure they wouldn't win anything. Your premise of youth+athleticism as the basis for championships isn't exactly well cited or even well guessed. The Heat were the 2nd oldest team in the NBA last year, 5th oldest the year before. The Mavericks were the oldest team in the NBA when they won it and their athleticism consisted almost entirely of JJ Barea. When we won it we were the 8th oldest and it's not like we jumped out of the gym. I'm not convinced the Lakers need a youth movement. I think they floundered last year because Nash couldn't stay healthy and D12 hasn't been the same since his back surgery. Also Bosh and Howard are extremely different players which would put Pau in an entirely different position as mid-to-low-post center. I had to go back 10 years to find a team who won the championship without being in the top-3rd of the league in age. It was the 2003-04 Pistons.

I wouldn't consider moving Rondo for anything out of the top-3 and no GM in their right mind makes that deal with us. Assuming we get one of the 3 top picks I'd take Rondo's established game over even a 50-50 flip at getting an all-star in Exum/Smart/Randle. Rondo is also a badass. Played with a broken arm and a torn knee. Unbelievable.

I wish people would stop judging Rondo's trade value on this season, other GMs aren't. He has zero incentive to play like he has in the past. We're trying to lose, his cast is pitiful and he's still recovering from knee surgery. He knows that even if he put up a triple-double every night we'd struggle to make it to .500. You won't see the pre-injury Rondo until next season and I think most GMs know that.

[LilRip]

I wish people would stop judging Rondo's trade value on this season, other GMs aren't. He has zero incentive to play like he has in the past. We're trying to lose, his cast is pitiful and he's still recovering from knee surgery. He knows that even if he put up a triple-double every night we'd struggle to make it to .500. You won't see the pre-injury Rondo until next season and I think most GMs know that.

i don't think anyone here is either. i mean, no GM would trade the 4-5th pick for current Rondo (assuming he stays like that).

[Future Celtics Owner]

Why not visit the Sacramento Kings trade idea. Rondo and Wallace FOR their top 7 pick (or lower) and pieces ( I think it was B. Mclemore, Thomas, etc)

This way we DO NOT give Rondo to the Lakers and bypass any curse that may come of that


And if that does not work we can talk with Lakers....but I would trade Rondo for a top pick

[BballTim]

I wish people would stop judging Rondo's trade value on this season, other GMs aren't. He has zero incentive to play like he has in the past. We're trying to lose, his cast is pitiful and he's still recovering from knee surgery. He knows that even if he put up a triple-double every night we'd struggle to make it to .500. You won't see the pre-injury Rondo until next season and I think most GMs know that.

i don't think anyone here is either. i mean, no GM would trade the 4-5th pick for current Rondo (assuming he stays like that).

  There are loads of posts about how low Rondo's trade value is now and how much he's lowering it with his current level of play.

[Eddie20]

I wish people would stop judging Rondo's trade value on this season, other GMs aren't. He has zero incentive to play like he has in the past. We're trying to lose, his cast is pitiful and he's still recovering from knee surgery. He knows that even if he put up a triple-double every night we'd struggle to make it to .500. You won't see the pre-injury Rondo until next season and I think most GMs know that.

i don't think anyone here is either. i mean, no GM would trade the 4-5th pick for current Rondo (assuming he stays like that).

  There are loads of posts about how low Rondo's trade value is now and how much he's lowering it with his current level of play.

Yes, his value is lower and it's only logical. A player plays well and his value soars, just like when a player is struggling, or is injured, his value drops. Players are assets and the market for these assets fluctuates based on different factors. Take Lou Williams for example. Here's a player that had an ACL injury around the same time as Rondo. He returned faster than Rondo, but has struggled all year long. Is his value the same? Should GM's trade for the pre-injury Williams, a guy who has outscored Rondo in the last 6 minutes despite playing a lot less minutes?

People seem to get very defensive of Rondo, but facts are facts. Just like the fact is that when Rondo has played the C's have lost their last 12 games (6 last yr/6 this yr).