4 Team Trade Idea BOS-PHI-CHA-PHX

[scotto1205]

also love to have a Rondo, Wiggins, Mcdermitt, Melo, Len maybe package Len and some assets for a center maybe bosh? Just going through a ton of different scenarios

[demiurg]

PHX never does this deal. Len is not getting dealt.

As I mentioned in another thread, stealing Miles Plumlee (the Suns' center of the future) for virtually NOTHING, makes Len tradeable.

Smitty77

No, it doesn't. Len is 5 years younger and has a much higher ceiling than Plumlee. Plumlee is just a stopgap, not a longterm solution.

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PHX never does this deal. Len is not getting dealt.

So, now Len is better than Green...and Hawes (who is having a fantastic year), apparently. I really think we need to re-evaluate what the value of our players might be. If I'm Boston, I have no idea why I would even consider this deal. People are constantly ragging on Olynyk, but now Len and his 2 ppg and 2 rpg are what we want in return for our leading scorer? Geez.

When was the last time you saw a Top 5 pick traded in his rookie season?

Now, when was the last time you saw a Top 5 pick traded in his rookie season by a rookie GM who took said Top 5 pick with the first pick he ever used as a GM?

And when was the last time you saw a Top 5 pick traded in his rookie season by a rookie GM who took said Top 5 pick with the first pick he ever used as a GM for an average SF with a large financial commitment remaining?

It's not about whether Alex Len is good. It's about the reality of NBA trades. 

[scotto1205]

PHX never does this deal. Len is not getting dealt.

So, now Len is better than Green...and Hawes (who is having a fantastic year), apparently. I really think we need to re-evaluate what the value of our players might be. If I'm Boston, I have no idea why I would even consider this deal. People are constantly ragging on Olynyk, but now Len and his 2 ppg and 2 rpg are what we want in return for our leading scorer? Geez.

When was the last time you saw a Top 5 pick traded in his rookie season?

Now, when was the last time you saw a Top 5 pick traded in his rookie season by a rookie GM who took said Top 5 pick with the first pick he ever used as a GM?

And when was the last time you saw a Top 5 pick traded in his rookie season by a rookie GM who took said Top 5 pick with the first pick he ever used as a GM for an average SF with a large financial commitment remaining?

It's not about whether Alex Len is good. It's about the reality of NBA trades.

While it's probably not likely I think green would be a great fit for their system as someone else said being the 3rd scorer on a fast paced team. I feel like he is a really good match for the suns an maybe would think that to. While your probably right about Len so far 12 out of the top 15 picks have basically been non contributors. Maybe we can switch Len for Goodwin and one of their lesser firsts their year? It all depends on how they would look at green. It's crazy how different people value green.

[jambr380]

PHX never does this deal. Len is not getting dealt.

So, now Len is better than Green...and Hawes (who is having a fantastic year), apparently. I really think we need to re-evaluate what the value of our players might be. If I'm Boston, I have no idea why I would even consider this deal. People are constantly ragging on Olynyk, but now Len and his 2 ppg and 2 rpg are what we want in return for our leading scorer? Geez.

When was the last time you saw a Top 5 pick traded in his rookie season?

Now, when was the last time you saw a Top 5 pick traded in his rookie season by a rookie GM who took said Top 5 pick with the first pick he ever used as a GM?

And when was the last time you saw a Top 5 pick traded in his rookie season by a rookie GM who took said Top 5 pick with the first pick he ever used as a GM for an average SF with a large financial commitment remaining?

It's not about whether Alex Len is good. It's about the reality of NBA trades.

Then it only becomes about saving face for a gm, nothing else. If Alex Len becomes a better player than Jeff Green OR Hawes, I will happily admit being wrong. This and with Phx all of a sudden in win-now mode, the last thing they need is another stiff rotting away at the end of their bench when they can drastically upgrade their roster in the present.

And absolutely no way should we be throwing in any pick to make this deal happen.

[Smitty77]

PHX never does this deal. Len is not getting dealt.

As I mentioned in another thread, stealing Miles Plumlee (the Suns' center of the future) for virtually NOTHING, makes Len tradeable.

Smitty77

No, it doesn't. Len is 5 years younger and has a much higher ceiling than Plumlee. Plumlee is just a stopgap, not a longterm solution.

I tell you what.  I WANT a "stop gap" like Miles Plumlee who is averaging 10 points, 9 rebounds and 1.5 blocks while starting 44 games out of 44 and playing 28 minutes per for a winning team.  Did I mention he had an efficiency rating of 15.2???  Did I mention this is his second year??  Did I mention that he hardly played for Indy last year?? 

Meanwhile, Len has ONLY played in 16 games and averaged 7.2 minutes per game and is ONLY averaging 2 and 2???  Also, did I mention that Plumlee was playing against starters and Len was mostly playing scrubs??

Len is a LONG way from EVER proving he can do what Plumlee has already DONE this year!!!

Smitty77

[ssspence]

PHX never does this deal. Len is not getting dealt.

So, now Len is better than Green...and Hawes (who is having a fantastic year), apparently. I really think we need to re-evaluate what the value of our players might be. If I'm Boston, I have no idea why I would even consider this deal. People are constantly ragging on Olynyk, but now Len and his 2 ppg and 2 rpg are what we want in return for our leading scorer? Geez.

When was the last time you saw a Top 5 pick traded in his rookie season?

Now, when was the last time you saw a Top 5 pick traded in his rookie season by a rookie GM who took said Top 5 pick with the first pick he ever used as a GM?

And when was the last time you saw a Top 5 pick traded in his rookie season by a rookie GM who took said Top 5 pick with the first pick he ever used as a GM for an average SF with a large financial commitment remaining?

It's not about whether Alex Len is good. It's about the reality of NBA trades.

Then it only becomes about saving face for a gm, nothing else. If Alex Len becomes a better player than Jeff Green OR Hawes, I will happily admit being wrong. This and with Phx all of a sudden in win-now mode, the last thing they need is another stiff rotting away at the end of their bench when they can drastically upgrade their roster in the present.

And absolutely no way should we be throwing in any pick to make this deal happen.

I agree -- we're not throwing in a pick to make this deal happen because it's never happening in the first place.

[CFAN38]

PHX never does this deal. Len is not getting dealt.

I agree Phoenix maybe willing to move OKafor and one of their many picks to get better this year but they arn't giving up on Len for a few wins this year. That would be a Rick Pitino move.

[scotto1205]

PHX never does this deal. Len is not getting dealt.

So, now Len is better than Green...and Hawes (who is having a fantastic year), apparently. I really think we need to re-evaluate what the value of our players might be. If I'm Boston, I have no idea why I would even consider this deal. People are constantly ragging on Olynyk, but now Len and his 2 ppg and 2 rpg are what we want in return for our leading scorer? Geez.

When was the last time you saw a Top 5 pick traded in his rookie season?

Now, when was the last time you saw a Top 5 pick traded in his rookie season by a rookie GM who took said Top 5 pick with the first pick he ever used as a GM?

And when was the last time you saw a Top 5 pick traded in his rookie season by a rookie GM who took said Top 5 pick with the first pick he ever used as a GM for an average SF with a large financial commitment remaining?

It's not about whether Alex Len is good. It's about the reality of NBA trades.

Then it only becomes about saving face for a gm, nothing else. If Alex Len becomes a better player than Jeff Green OR Hawes, I will happily admit being wrong. This and with Phx all of a sudden in win-now mode, the last thing they need is another stiff rotting away at the end of their bench when they can drastically upgrade their roster in the present.

And absolutely no way should we be throwing in any pick to make this deal happen.

I agree -- we're not throwing in a pick to make this deal happen because it's never happening in the first place.

It's just an idea but you don't think DA would do it? I like the idea of Goodwin and a 1s instead of Len.

[demiurg]

PHX never does this deal. Len is not getting dealt.

So, now Len is better than Green...and Hawes (who is having a fantastic year), apparently. I really think we need to re-evaluate what the value of our players might be. If I'm Boston, I have no idea why I would even consider this deal. People are constantly ragging on Olynyk, but now Len and his 2 ppg and 2 rpg are what we want in return for our leading scorer? Geez.

When was the last time you saw a Top 5 pick traded in his rookie season?

Now, when was the last time you saw a Top 5 pick traded in his rookie season by a rookie GM who took said Top 5 pick with the first pick he ever used as a GM?

And when was the last time you saw a Top 5 pick traded in his rookie season by a rookie GM who took said Top 5 pick with the first pick he ever used as a GM for an average SF with a large financial commitment remaining?

It's not about whether Alex Len is good. It's about the reality of NBA trades.

Then it only becomes about saving face for a gm, nothing else. If Alex Len becomes a better player than Jeff Green OR Hawes, I will happily admit being wrong. This and with Phx all of a sudden in win-now mode, the last thing they need is another stiff rotting away at the end of their bench when they can drastically upgrade their roster in the present.

And absolutely no way should we be throwing in any pick to make this deal happen.

I agree -- we're not throwing in a pick to make this deal happen because it's never happening in the first place.

It's just an idea but you don't think DA would do it? I like the idea of Goodwin and a 1s instead of Len.

This is not gonna happen either. Jeff Green is redundant on the Suns. PJ Tucker and Marcus Morris are doing just fine for $3M combined.

per 36 minutes:

Marcus Morris 15.8 pts, 6.9 reb, 1.7 ast, 1.7 stl, 0.4 blk, .542 TS%, 15.1 PER, .117 WS/48

Jeff Green 17.3 pts, 5.4 reb, 1.6 ast, 0.7 stl, 0.6 blk, .528 TS%, 13.6 PER, .069 WS/48

PJ Tucker is a 3 and D specialist.

Green is not enough of an upgrade for the Suns and he's not worth his salary.