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Meyers Leonard for Humphries trade idea
« on: January 25, 2014, 03:17:35 PM »

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To Blazers: Humphries, 2015 2nd pick
To Celtics: Leonard, Freeland, Wright, Watson

Blazers could use Humphries off the bench to make a strong push into the playoffs.  Leonard is not getting much of a chance to help the blazers. But for the Celtics rebuild , could come into his own eventually given some consistent time to play.   I don't think the Blazers will make this trade without getting back a future 2nd pick though. Leonard is younger with more potential and Humphries is a FA next year

Re: Meyers Leonard for Humphries trade idea
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2014, 03:23:57 PM »

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To Blazers: Humphries, 2015 2nd pick
To Celtics: Leonard, Freeland, Wright, Watson

Blazers could use Humphries off the bench to make a strong push into the playoffs.  Leonard is not getting much of a chance to help the blazers. But for the Celtics rebuild , could come into his own eventually given some consistent time to play.   I don't think the Blazers will make this trade without getting back a future 2nd pick though. Leonard is younger with more potential and Humphries is a FA next year
I would hope Danny could do better than this load of flotsam for Humphries.  Portland gets a player that can provide significant help this year and then be resigned for more-reasonable money next year. 
We get a bunch of crap that we hope won't smell as badly next year.

not a good deal for the C's

Re: Meyers Leonard for Humphries trade idea
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2014, 03:44:54 PM »

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To Blazers: Humphries, 2015 2nd pick
To Celtics: Leonard, Freeland, Wright, Watson

Blazers could use Humphries off the bench to make a strong push into the playoffs.  Leonard is not getting much of a chance to help the blazers. But for the Celtics rebuild , could come into his own eventually given some consistent time to play.   I don't think the Blazers will make this trade without getting back a future 2nd pick though. Leonard is younger with more potential and Humphries is a FA next year
I would hope Danny could do better than this load of flotsam for Humphries.  Portland gets a player that can provide significant help this year and then be resigned for more-reasonable money next year. 
We get a bunch of crap that we hope won't smell as badly next year.

not a good deal for the C's

This is kris humphries, not kg. Leonard has upside. The rest u can waive

You cant expect alot for humphries. Best is a late 1st. Leonard was a top 12 pick in the 2012 draft

You also cant say if we dont get back the best for hump that we rather play him. If he is not willing to sign a discount for next year, you got to trade him

Re: Meyers Leonard for Humphries trade idea
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2014, 03:48:30 PM »

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Hump would be good on a contender. but I like hump

Re: Meyers Leonard for Humphries trade idea
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2014, 03:58:59 PM »

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To Blazers: Humphries, 2015 2nd pick
To Celtics: Leonard, Freeland, Wright, Watson

Blazers could use Humphries off the bench to make a strong push into the playoffs.  Leonard is not getting much of a chance to help the blazers. But for the Celtics rebuild , could come into his own eventually given some consistent time to play.   I don't think the Blazers will make this trade without getting back a future 2nd pick though. Leonard is younger with more potential and Humphries is a FA next year
I would hope Danny could do better than this load of flotsam for Humphries.  Portland gets a player that can provide significant help this year and then be resigned for more-reasonable money next year. 
We get a bunch of crap that we hope won't smell as badly next year.

not a good deal for the C's

This is kris humphries, not kg. Leonard has upside. The rest u can waive

You cant expect alot for humphries. Best is a late 1st. Leonard was a top 12 pick in the 2012 draft

You also cant say if we dont get back the best for hump that we rather play him. If he is not willing to sign a discount for next year, you got to trade him

If it was Leonard for Humphries, it might be worth it.  Your trade has us taking back around $8.5 million in salary for next season, though.  That would really limit our flexibility in terms of using the trade exception and/or trading Bogans' for salary and/or re-signing Bradley.

Leonard just isn't worth all that.


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Re: Meyers Leonard for Humphries trade idea
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2014, 04:26:30 PM »

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To Blazers: Humphries, 2015 2nd pick
To Celtics: Leonard, Freeland, Wright, Watson

Blazers could use Humphries off the bench to make a strong push into the playoffs.  Leonard is not getting much of a chance to help the blazers. But for the Celtics rebuild , could come into his own eventually given some consistent time to play.   I don't think the Blazers will make this trade without getting back a future 2nd pick though. Leonard is younger with more potential and Humphries is a FA next year
I would hope Danny could do better than this load of flotsam for Humphries.  Portland gets a player that can provide significant help this year and then be resigned for more-reasonable money next year. 
We get a bunch of crap that we hope won't smell as badly next year.

not a good deal for the C's

This is kris humphries, not kg. Leonard has upside. The rest u can waive

You cant expect alot for humphries. Best is a late 1st. Leonard was a top 12 pick in the 2012 draft

You also cant say if we dont get back the best for hump that we rather play him. If he is not willing to sign a discount for next year, you got to trade him

The rest you can waive?

Why would we want to trade for players that we waive and still have to pay 6+M against the cap. If there contracts were non-guaranteed it would be one thing but having a bunch of dead-money on your cap is never a good thing

Re: Meyers Leonard for Humphries trade idea
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2014, 04:31:57 PM »

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Make it Wright and Leonard for Bass and I'll bite.

Re: Meyers Leonard for Humphries trade idea
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2014, 04:33:14 PM »

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To Blazers: Humphries, 2015 2nd pick
To Celtics: Leonard, Freeland, Wright, Watson

Blazers could use Humphries off the bench to make a strong push into the playoffs.  Leonard is not getting much of a chance to help the blazers. But for the Celtics rebuild , could come into his own eventually given some consistent time to play.   I don't think the Blazers will make this trade without getting back a future 2nd pick though. Leonard is younger with more potential and Humphries is a FA next year
I would hope Danny could do better than this load of flotsam for Humphries.  Portland gets a player that can provide significant help this year and then be resigned for more-reasonable money next year. 
We get a bunch of crap that we hope won't smell as badly next year.

not a good deal for the C's

This is kris humphries, not kg. Leonard has upside. The rest u can waive

You cant expect alot for humphries. Best is a late 1st. Leonard was a top 12 pick in the 2012 draft

You also cant say if we dont get back the best for hump that we rather play him. If he is not willing to sign a discount for next year, you got to trade him

If it was Leonard for Humphries, it might be worth it.  Your trade has us taking back around $8.5 million in salary for next season, though.  That would really limit our flexibility in terms of using the trade exception and/or trading Bogans' for salary and/or re-signing Bradley.

Leonard just isn't worth all that.

They are expiring contracts after next year. You can waive or keep to use for a potential trade next year. Why do we need cap space next season?

Are you expecting to sign lebron? Nobody big is coming to us next season. We are rebuilding and the team is running on cheap.

For leonard this is the only way the trade would work. Blazers have no expiring contracts after this season

Re: Meyers Leonard for Humphries trade idea
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2014, 04:34:39 PM »

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Make it Wright and Leonard for Bass and I'll bite.

They have robinson already as the short pf on the team. Makes little sense for them. Hump can give aldridge and lopez rest

Re: Meyers Leonard for Humphries trade idea
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2014, 04:39:38 PM »

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To Blazers: Humphries, 2015 2nd pick
To Celtics: Leonard, Freeland, Wright, Watson

Blazers could use Humphries off the bench to make a strong push into the playoffs.  Leonard is not getting much of a chance to help the blazers. But for the Celtics rebuild , could come into his own eventually given some consistent time to play.   I don't think the Blazers will make this trade without getting back a future 2nd pick though. Leonard is younger with more potential and Humphries is a FA next year
I would hope Danny could do better than this load of flotsam for Humphries.  Portland gets a player that can provide significant help this year and then be resigned for more-reasonable money next year. 
We get a bunch of crap that we hope won't smell as badly next year.

not a good deal for the C's

This is kris humphries, not kg. Leonard has upside. The rest u can waive

You cant expect alot for humphries. Best is a late 1st. Leonard was a top 12 pick in the 2012 draft

You also cant say if we dont get back the best for hump that we rather play him. If he is not willing to sign a discount for next year, you got to trade him

If it was Leonard for Humphries, it might be worth it.  Your trade has us taking back around $8.5 million in salary for next season, though.  That would really limit our flexibility in terms of using the trade exception and/or trading Bogans' for salary and/or re-signing Bradley.

Leonard just isn't worth all that.

They are expiring contracts after next year. You can waive or keep to use for a potential trade next year. Why do we need cap space next year?

Are you expecting to sign lebron? Nobody big is coming to us next season. We are rebuilding and the team is running on cheap.

For leonard this is the only way the trade would work. Blazers have no expiring contracts after this season


Carrying 6+M of dead money on your cap just for the sake of acquiring a guy who has looked to be more bust than boom is just a bad idea in my opinion.

Cap flexibility is even more important for a rebuilding team because you can always "rent" out cap space like Utah did in acquiring two first rounders from Golden State this offseason. Cap space is always valuable.

We can respectfully disagree, I just think it is a horrible trade.

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Re: Meyers Leonard for Humphries trade idea
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2014, 04:41:51 PM »

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To Blazers: Humphries, 2015 2nd pick
To Celtics: Leonard, Freeland, Wright, Watson

Blazers could use Humphries off the bench to make a strong push into the playoffs.  Leonard is not getting much of a chance to help the blazers. But for the Celtics rebuild , could come into his own eventually given some consistent time to play.   I don't think the Blazers will make this trade without getting back a future 2nd pick though. Leonard is younger with more potential and Humphries is a FA next year
I would hope Danny could do better than this load of flotsam for Humphries.  Portland gets a player that can provide significant help this year and then be resigned for more-reasonable money next year. 
We get a bunch of crap that we hope won't smell as badly next year.

not a good deal for the C's

This is kris humphries, not kg. Leonard has upside. The rest u can waive

You cant expect alot for humphries. Best is a late 1st. Leonard was a top 12 pick in the 2012 draft

You also cant say if we dont get back the best for hump that we rather play him. If he is not willing to sign a discount for next year, you got to trade him

If it was Leonard for Humphries, it might be worth it.  Your trade has us taking back around $8.5 million in salary for next season, though.  That would really limit our flexibility in terms of using the trade exception and/or trading Bogans' for salary and/or re-signing Bradley.

Leonard just isn't worth all that.

They are expiring contracts after next year. You can waive or keep to use for a potential trade next year. Why do we need cap space next season?

Are you expecting to sign lebron? Nobody big is coming to us next season. We are rebuilding and the team is running on cheap.

For leonard this is the only way the trade would work. Blazers have no expiring contracts after this season

Then don't trade for Leonard.  Taking back that much salary would be a poor move.


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Re: Meyers Leonard for Humphries trade idea
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2014, 06:28:33 PM »

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To Blazers: Humphries, 2015 2nd pick
To Celtics: Leonard, Freeland, Wright, Watson

Blazers could use Humphries off the bench to make a strong push into the playoffs.  Leonard is not getting much of a chance to help the blazers. But for the Celtics rebuild , could come into his own eventually given some consistent time to play.   I don't think the Blazers will make this trade without getting back a future 2nd pick though. Leonard is younger with more potential and Humphries is a FA next year
I would hope Danny could do better than this load of flotsam for Humphries.  Portland gets a player that can provide significant help this year and then be resigned for more-reasonable money next year. 
We get a bunch of crap that we hope won't smell as badly next year.

not a good deal for the C's

This is kris humphries, not kg. Leonard has upside. The rest u can waive

You cant expect alot for humphries. Best is a late 1st. Leonard was a top 12 pick in the 2012 draft

You also cant say if we dont get back the best for hump that we rather play him. If he is not willing to sign a discount for next year, you got to trade him
you're right, it's Hump not KG.  Hump is younger and can put up better rebounding and scoring numbers than KG right now.   He's also cheaper and an expiring deal.   He'd actually help out a contender this year and could be resigned next year for less money.

for that, I'd like something better than Meyers Leonard -- a big man that can't get playing time on a team that needs big men now.  Hump is a proven performer on an expiring deal.  settling for Meyers Leonard, someone whose sole benefit -- in your own words - is potential.  Potential that has no basis in anything realistic.  he's just young and tall. 
the fact he was a top 12 pick in the prior draft means squat.  Darko was the second pick -- how'd that work out?  Oden, #1 pick.  now sitting in Miami doing nothing.  Bennett, #1 pick last year and looking horrid.  where someone was picked in the draft means nothing

Re: Meyers Leonard for Humphries trade idea
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2014, 06:43:28 PM »

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To Blazers: Humphries, 2015 2nd pick
To Celtics: Leonard, Freeland, Wright, Watson

Blazers could use Humphries off the bench to make a strong push into the playoffs.  Leonard is not getting much of a chance to help the blazers. But for the Celtics rebuild , could come into his own eventually given some consistent time to play.   I don't think the Blazers will make this trade without getting back a future 2nd pick though. Leonard is younger with more potential and Humphries is a FA next year
I would hope Danny could do better than this load of flotsam for Humphries.  Portland gets a player that can provide significant help this year and then be resigned for more-reasonable money next year. 
We get a bunch of crap that we hope won't smell as badly next year.

not a good deal for the C's

This is kris humphries, not kg. Leonard has upside. The rest u can waive

You cant expect alot for humphries. Best is a late 1st. Leonard was a top 12 pick in the 2012 draft

You also cant say if we dont get back the best for hump that we rather play him. If he is not willing to sign a discount for next year, you got to trade him
you're right, it's Hump not KG.  Hump is younger and can put up better rebounding and scoring numbers than KG right now.   He's also cheaper and an expiring deal.   He'd actually help out a contender this year and could be resigned next year for less money.

for that, I'd like something better than Meyers Leonard -- a big man that can't get playing time on a team that needs big men now.  Hump is a proven performer on an expiring deal.  settling for Meyers Leonard, someone whose sole benefit -- in your own words - is potential.  Potential that has no basis in anything realistic.  he's just young and tall. 
the fact he was a top 12 pick in the prior draft means squat.  Darko was the second pick -- how'd that work out?  Oden, #1 pick.  now sitting in Miami doing nothing.  Bennett, #1 pick last year and looking horrid.  where someone was picked in the draft means nothing

Leonard has been buried in the bench. He is not allowed to make rookie mistakes. He has great size , wingspan , leap and some skills. Just needs time. Time blazers cant afford to spare.

Again what do we get by ke3ping hump? What r u actually expecting back?

Letting him finish the year and letting him walk after for nothing is just as bad as doing nothing imo

Re: Meyers Leonard for Humphries trade idea
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2014, 08:39:17 PM »

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To Blazers: Humphries, 2015 2nd pick
To Celtics: Leonard, Freeland, Wright, Watson

Blazers could use Humphries off the bench to make a strong push into the playoffs.  Leonard is not getting much of a chance to help the blazers. But for the Celtics rebuild , could come into his own eventually given some consistent time to play.   I don't think the Blazers will make this trade without getting back a future 2nd pick though. Leonard is younger with more potential and Humphries is a FA next year
I would hope Danny could do better than this load of flotsam for Humphries.  Portland gets a player that can provide significant help this year and then be resigned for more-reasonable money next year. 
We get a bunch of crap that we hope won't smell as badly next year.

not a good deal for the C's

This is kris humphries, not kg. Leonard has upside. The rest u can waive

You cant expect alot for humphries. Best is a late 1st. Leonard was a top 12 pick in the 2012 draft

You also cant say if we dont get back the best for hump that we rather play him. If he is not willing to sign a discount for next year, you got to trade him
you're right, it's Hump not KG.  Hump is younger and can put up better rebounding and scoring numbers than KG right now.   He's also cheaper and an expiring deal.   He'd actually help out a contender this year and could be resigned next year for less money.

for that, I'd like something better than Meyers Leonard -- a big man that can't get playing time on a team that needs big men now.  Hump is a proven performer on an expiring deal.  settling for Meyers Leonard, someone whose sole benefit -- in your own words - is potential.  Potential that has no basis in anything realistic.  he's just young and tall. 
the fact he was a top 12 pick in the prior draft means squat.  Darko was the second pick -- how'd that work out?  Oden, #1 pick.  now sitting in Miami doing nothing.  Bennett, #1 pick last year and looking horrid.  where someone was picked in the draft means nothing

Leonard has been buried in the bench. He is not allowed to make rookie mistakes. He has great size , wingspan , leap and some skills. Just needs time. Time blazers cant afford to spare.

Again what do we get by ke3ping hump? What r u actually expecting back?

Letting him finish the year and letting him walk after for nothing is just as bad as doing nothing imo

Firstly, Leonard isn't a rookie.  He shouldn't be making "rookie mistakes".

Secondly, the celtics got either three seconds or a first and a second for taking on Joel Anthony's $3.8 million salary.  You're having the Celtica take on over 50% more dead salary for next year, and give up a second-round pick, for Meyers Leonard, who can't get off the bench.  That would be a total fleecing of the Celtics.

Re: Meyers Leonard for Humphries trade idea
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2014, 09:32:20 PM »

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I wouldn't hate that trade.  I actually like Dorell Wright, though.  Joel Freeland's ok too. 
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