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Re: Celtics to trade Lee for Jerryd Bayless?
« Reply #180 on: January 06, 2014, 10:18:35 PM »
When he was on the Celtics---Gomes was the guy who publicly stated that the C's were Losing games ON PURPOSE, for the Draft---we don't need him around--!
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  Losing games on purpose by not playing him more, take that for what it's worth.

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Re: Celtics to trade Lee for Jerryd Bayless?
« Reply #181 on: January 06, 2014, 10:19:17 PM »
Stein's quotes about including Gomes don't make any sense to me.  I must be missing something,

Salary move. Gomes will not even put on a jersey for Boston before he gets cut.

Why immediately cut him, if we've got an open roster spot?  Just as a courtesy to him and his agent, to maybe latch on to another team?

If OKC is involved, they must be sending a 2nd rounder to one of the two teams.

If we're doing them the favor by freeing up space for them by taking Gomes, one would think so, for sure .

Guess not though:

https://twitter.com/intent/user?original_referer=http%3A%2F%2Fbasketball.realgm.com%2Fnba%2Fteams%2FBoston-Celtics%2F2%2FHome&screen_name=Murf56&tw_i=420391512938008578&tw_p=embeddedtimeline&tw_w=349949388812070912

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Why are we giving up the pick?.


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Re: Celtics to trade Lee for Jerryd Bayless?
« Reply #182 on: January 06, 2014, 10:22:30 PM »
Is this guy worth a second pic?....... ???

I'm lost on this move  ???

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Re: Celtics to trade Lee for Jerryd Bayless?
« Reply #183 on: January 06, 2014, 10:24:09 PM »
Was wondering why this was taking so long.

Celtics may still be giving up a pick, but I have to believe that they are getting one from OKC for taking on Gomes. There's no reason to include him in the deal otherwise.
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Re: Celtics to trade Lee for Jerryd Bayless?
« Reply #184 on: January 06, 2014, 10:25:55 PM »
I agree.  This makes NO sense.  Why in the world would OKC NOT have to give up something like a future 2nd rounder to us at least?????????????????

Murphy better be incorrect on this!!!!  Why are we doing the Thunder ANY favors after they knowingly sent us damaged goods in Green??????????????????????

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Re: Celtics to trade Lee for Jerryd Bayless?
« Reply #185 on: January 06, 2014, 10:27:11 PM »
Why we pay them to take they junk.......they  bring us junk.......always. jUNK. ...

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Re: Celtics to trade Lee for Jerryd Bayless?
« Reply #186 on: January 06, 2014, 10:42:09 PM »
Why we pay them to take they junk.......they  bring us junk.......always. jUNK. ...

Gomes can be waived . . Saw this on celticslife
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Re: Celtics to trade Lee for Jerryd Bayless?
« Reply #187 on: January 06, 2014, 10:43:18 PM »
Maybe not to use any of the trade exception from the Nets  ???   

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Re: Celtics to trade Lee for Jerryd Bayless?
« Reply #188 on: January 06, 2014, 10:44:50 PM »
Maybe not to use any of the trade exception from the Nets  ???
I believe this is correct.

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Re: Celtics to trade Lee for Jerryd Bayless?
« Reply #189 on: January 06, 2014, 10:49:48 PM »
Don't get the uproar over the Gomes inclusion. We're giving up a second rounder that will probably be so low in 2016 we could just buy it back if we really wanted to. Besides, with all of our picks (9 first rounders over the next five years), what place do second rounders really have on an already overcrowded Celtics team?

Our motivation is clear: Gomes is an expiring deal and he makes a little over a mil. We can keep as salary filler in a trade Danny may have in mind. We can flat out waive him right now to be very comfortably under the tax line, or we can just let him expire in the offseason. This contract is far from cumbersome for us: we do the Thunder a favor (GMs do this all the time to earn brownie points with each other), it does little to hurt our improving cap situation, and it may even help facilitate a trade for us in the future.

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Re: Celtics to trade Lee for Jerryd Bayless?
« Reply #190 on: January 06, 2014, 10:50:52 PM »
Maybe not to use any of the trade exception from the Nets  ???
I believe this is correct.

No, that's not an issue. There would be no need for the Celtics to use any part of that TE to get a deal done. Memphis needs to use a TE to take Lee's salary, but Boston can take back less salary with no complications.

Boston has to be getting something in the deal if they are taking on Gomes, just to waive him. Could be cash, could be another 2nd.

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To recap: Celts get Bayless and Gomes and likely waive Gomes. Grizz get Courtney Lee. Some second-rounders likely involved to tie it all up

My guess: Boston sends out a 2nd to Memphis, but gets one back from OKC.
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Re: Celtics to trade Lee for Jerryd Bayless?
« Reply #191 on: January 06, 2014, 10:56:35 PM »
Maybe not to use any of the trade exception from the Nets  ???
I believe this is correct.

No, that's not an issue. There would be no need for the Celtics to use any part of that TE to get a deal done. Memphis needs to use a TE to take Lee's salary, but Boston can take back less salary with no complications.

Boston has to be getting something in the deal if they are taking on Gomes, just to waive him. Could be cash, could be another 2nd.

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Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 2h

To recap: Celts get Bayless and Gomes and likely waive Gomes. Grizz get Courtney Lee. Some second-rounders likely involved to tie it all up

My guess: Boston sends out a 2nd to Memphis, but gets one back from OKC.

I would totally agree and hope this to be true Lucky17!!\

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Re: Celtics to trade Lee for Jerryd Bayless?
« Reply #192 on: January 06, 2014, 10:58:43 PM »
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As part of the Lee-Bayless deal, Boston will send a future second round pick to Memphis. OKC gets a protected 2nd rounder in '17

OKC must be sending the Celtics cash. 

That 2017 #2 is probably top-55 protected or something of that nature (similar to the deals we made with Sacramento when we paid them to take Cassell's and POB's contracts, where they traded us #2s that we'll never see.)

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Re: Celtics to trade Lee for Jerryd Bayless?
« Reply #193 on: January 06, 2014, 11:06:39 PM »
can bayless play tomorrow?
Surprising players happen all the time -- that's why they're called surprises.

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Re: Celtics to trade Lee for Jerryd Bayless?
« Reply #194 on: January 06, 2014, 11:08:52 PM »
Can Rondo play tomorrow??:-)))))))))))

 

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