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Quote from: Shamrocker on December 28, 2013, 03:14:49 PMQuote from: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2013, 03:12:38 PMQuote from: hwangjini_1 on December 28, 2013, 03:10:38 PMQuote from: Shamrocker on December 28, 2013, 03:05:28 PMQuote from: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2013, 03:02:14 PMQuote from: satch on December 28, 2013, 02:59:32 PMC's have not been the same since KO return from ankle injury. No chemistry and he ....can't play.Just like Bradley couldn't play.Yup! Just like JJJ and JR Giddens and Billy Walker couldn't play...ohh wait those examples don't help the KO won't be a bust argument. SorryI believe the point is NOT that olly won't be a bust. But rather that it is way to soon to pass judgements such as he will be a bust. Yes, the point is nuanced, but worth understanding.Exactly.Remember, KO was looked at as a solid pick by other GMs and even other players from his draft class.If he doesn't pan out, then he doesn't pan out. But have some patience.I think the sample size is sufficient, sorry. He'll be playing in Europe in two years.30 games into a rookie season, 19 of which he's played in, is a sufficient sample size? In the NBA? Can't say I agree but to each their own.
Quote from: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2013, 03:12:38 PMQuote from: hwangjini_1 on December 28, 2013, 03:10:38 PMQuote from: Shamrocker on December 28, 2013, 03:05:28 PMQuote from: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2013, 03:02:14 PMQuote from: satch on December 28, 2013, 02:59:32 PMC's have not been the same since KO return from ankle injury. No chemistry and he ....can't play.Just like Bradley couldn't play.Yup! Just like JJJ and JR Giddens and Billy Walker couldn't play...ohh wait those examples don't help the KO won't be a bust argument. SorryI believe the point is NOT that olly won't be a bust. But rather that it is way to soon to pass judgements such as he will be a bust. Yes, the point is nuanced, but worth understanding.Exactly.Remember, KO was looked at as a solid pick by other GMs and even other players from his draft class.If he doesn't pan out, then he doesn't pan out. But have some patience.I think the sample size is sufficient, sorry. He'll be playing in Europe in two years.
Quote from: hwangjini_1 on December 28, 2013, 03:10:38 PMQuote from: Shamrocker on December 28, 2013, 03:05:28 PMQuote from: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2013, 03:02:14 PMQuote from: satch on December 28, 2013, 02:59:32 PMC's have not been the same since KO return from ankle injury. No chemistry and he ....can't play.Just like Bradley couldn't play.Yup! Just like JJJ and JR Giddens and Billy Walker couldn't play...ohh wait those examples don't help the KO won't be a bust argument. SorryI believe the point is NOT that olly won't be a bust. But rather that it is way to soon to pass judgements such as he will be a bust. Yes, the point is nuanced, but worth understanding.Exactly.Remember, KO was looked at as a solid pick by other GMs and even other players from his draft class.If he doesn't pan out, then he doesn't pan out. But have some patience.
Quote from: Shamrocker on December 28, 2013, 03:05:28 PMQuote from: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2013, 03:02:14 PMQuote from: satch on December 28, 2013, 02:59:32 PMC's have not been the same since KO return from ankle injury. No chemistry and he ....can't play.Just like Bradley couldn't play.Yup! Just like JJJ and JR Giddens and Billy Walker couldn't play...ohh wait those examples don't help the KO won't be a bust argument. SorryI believe the point is NOT that olly won't be a bust. But rather that it is way to soon to pass judgements such as he will be a bust. Yes, the point is nuanced, but worth understanding.
Quote from: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2013, 03:02:14 PMQuote from: satch on December 28, 2013, 02:59:32 PMC's have not been the same since KO return from ankle injury. No chemistry and he ....can't play.Just like Bradley couldn't play.Yup! Just like JJJ and JR Giddens and Billy Walker couldn't play...ohh wait those examples don't help the KO won't be a bust argument. Sorry
Quote from: satch on December 28, 2013, 02:59:32 PMC's have not been the same since KO return from ankle injury. No chemistry and he ....can't play.Just like Bradley couldn't play.
C's have not been the same since KO return from ankle injury. No chemistry and he ....can't play.
Quote from: Shamrocker on December 28, 2013, 03:14:49 PMQuote from: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2013, 03:12:38 PMQuote from: hwangjini_1 on December 28, 2013, 03:10:38 PMQuote from: Shamrocker on December 28, 2013, 03:05:28 PMQuote from: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2013, 03:02:14 PMQuote from: satch on December 28, 2013, 02:59:32 PMC's have not been the same since KO return from ankle injury. No chemistry and he ....can't play.Just like Bradley couldn't play.D leagueYup! Just like JJJ and JR Giddens and Billy Walker couldn't play...ohh wait those examples don't help the KO won't be a bust argument. SorryI believe the point is NOT that olly won't be a bust. But rather that it is way to soon to pass judgements such as he will be a bust. Yes, the point is nuanced, but worth understanding.Exactly.Remember, KO was looked at as a solid pick by other GMs and even other players from his draft class.If he doesn't pan out, then he doesn't pan out. But have some patience.I think the sample size is sufficient, sorry. He'll be playing in Europe in two years.30 games into a rookie season, 19 of which he's played in, is a sufficient sample size? In the NBA? Can't say I agree but to each their own.
Quote from: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2013, 03:12:38 PMQuote from: hwangjini_1 on December 28, 2013, 03:10:38 PMQuote from: Shamrocker on December 28, 2013, 03:05:28 PMQuote from: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2013, 03:02:14 PMQuote from: satch on December 28, 2013, 02:59:32 PMC's have not been the same since KO return from ankle injury. No chemistry and he ....can't play.Just like Bradley couldn't play.D leagueYup! Just like JJJ and JR Giddens and Billy Walker couldn't play...ohh wait those examples don't help the KO won't be a bust argument. SorryI believe the point is NOT that olly won't be a bust. But rather that it is way to soon to pass judgements such as he will be a bust. Yes, the point is nuanced, but worth understanding.Exactly.Remember, KO was looked at as a solid pick by other GMs and even other players from his draft class.If he doesn't pan out, then he doesn't pan out. But have some patience.I think the sample size is sufficient, sorry. He'll be playing in Europe in two years.
Quote from: hwangjini_1 on December 28, 2013, 03:10:38 PMQuote from: Shamrocker on December 28, 2013, 03:05:28 PMQuote from: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2013, 03:02:14 PMQuote from: satch on December 28, 2013, 02:59:32 PMC's have not been the same since KO return from ankle injury. No chemistry and he ....can't play.Just like Bradley couldn't play.D leagueYup! Just like JJJ and JR Giddens and Billy Walker couldn't play...ohh wait those examples don't help the KO won't be a bust argument. SorryI believe the point is NOT that olly won't be a bust. But rather that it is way to soon to pass judgements such as he will be a bust. Yes, the point is nuanced, but worth understanding.Exactly.Remember, KO was looked at as a solid pick by other GMs and even other players from his draft class.If he doesn't pan out, then he doesn't pan out. But have some patience.
Quote from: Shamrocker on December 28, 2013, 03:05:28 PMQuote from: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2013, 03:02:14 PMQuote from: satch on December 28, 2013, 02:59:32 PMC's have not been the same since KO return from ankle injury. No chemistry and he ....can't play.Just like Bradley couldn't play.D leagueYup! Just like JJJ and JR Giddens and Billy Walker couldn't play...ohh wait those examples don't help the KO won't be a bust argument. SorryI believe the point is NOT that olly won't be a bust. But rather that it is way to soon to pass judgements such as he will be a bust. Yes, the point is nuanced, but worth understanding.
Quote from: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2013, 03:02:14 PMQuote from: satch on December 28, 2013, 02:59:32 PMC's have not been the same since KO return from ankle injury. No chemistry and he ....can't play.Just like Bradley couldn't play.D leagueYup! Just like JJJ and JR Giddens and Billy Walker couldn't play...ohh wait those examples don't help the KO won't be a bust argument. Sorry
Quote from: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2013, 03:20:42 PMQuote from: Shamrocker on December 28, 2013, 03:14:49 PMQuote from: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2013, 03:12:38 PMQuote from: hwangjini_1 on December 28, 2013, 03:10:38 PMQuote from: Shamrocker on December 28, 2013, 03:05:28 PMQuote from: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2013, 03:02:14 PMQuote from: satch on December 28, 2013, 02:59:32 PMC's have not been the same since KO return from ankle injury. No chemistry and he ....can't play.Just like Bradley couldn't play.Yup! Just like JJJ and JR Giddens and Billy Walker couldn't play...ohh wait those examples don't help the KO won't be a bust argument. SorryI believe the point is NOT that olly won't be a bust. But rather that it is way to soon to pass judgements such as he will be a bust. Yes, the point is nuanced, but worth understanding.Exactly.Remember, KO was looked at as a solid pick by other GMs and even other players from his draft class.If he doesn't pan out, then he doesn't pan out. But have some patience.I think the sample size is sufficient, sorry. He'll be playing in Europe in two years.30 games into a rookie season, 19 of which he's played in, is a sufficient sample size? In the NBA? Can't say I agree but to each their own.After Fab's first 30 games I think we all realized he couldn't play. Same with JJJ. Yeah, 30 games is enough to form a reasoned opinion. KO has given us no reason for optimism.