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Re: Avery Bradley rejected a four-year extension, worth 24 mil
« Reply #30 on: December 12, 2013, 08:02:01 PM »

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If he keeps playing this well he'd be worth 8 million per year.

We will have to trust Danny to evaluate it at the end of the year.
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Re: Avery Bradley rejected a four-year extension, worth 24 mil
« Reply #31 on: December 12, 2013, 08:02:13 PM »

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I do think that some people underestimate Bradley's value because they can't get past his (lack of) height.

I think his record shows that if you don't make him play point guard, he's a guy who is very likely to be named first or second team All-Defensive and could score 14-15 ppg with 40% shooting on threes.

If you believed Bradley is likely to play at that level over the next four years with some potential to be better, how much is he worth?  How much more would you be willing to give him if he had the same numbers but was three inches taller?
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Re: Avery Bradley rejected a four-year extension, worth 24 mil
« Reply #32 on: December 12, 2013, 08:04:18 PM »

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Ab is worth 8 on the open market. If danny doesnt think, he should trade him by the deadline.

Re: Avery Bradley rejected a four-year extension, worth 24 mil
« Reply #33 on: December 12, 2013, 08:18:48 PM »

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Look at things this way.  How many starting SGs would you rather have for the next 4 plus years when looking around the league.

Wade, Johnson, and Kobe most likely will have fallen off a cliff by then if they haven't started to already.

These guys I would most likely take over Bradley:

DeRozan 24 yrs old
K Thompson 23
Harden 24
E Gordon 24 (if healthy)
Beal 20 ( I really like him)

Then it's a whole bunch of guys that are debateable if you want to have for the next 4 plus years over Bradley IMO because of age and/or play.

JR Smith 28
Redick 29
McLemore 20
Waiters 22
Caldwell Pope 20
Stephenson 23
Mayo 26
Ellis 28
G Henderson 26
Afflalo 28
Maybe Oladipo 21- if he stays at SG
K Martin 30
Matthews 27
A Burks 22

The look at this upcoming draft.  The high end talent seems to be at SF and PG not SG unless if Exum, Smart, Parker, or Wiggins can start off their career at the 2.

So Bradley seems to be in the same tier with a bunch of guys IMO, and not many clear cut better to have for the next 4 plus years.   I say we end up with him because we might not find a clear better alternative.

Re: Avery Bradley rejected a four-year extension, worth 24 mil
« Reply #34 on: December 12, 2013, 08:20:22 PM »

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I do think that some people underestimate Bradley's value because they can't get past his (lack of) height.

I think his record shows that if you don't make him play point guard, he's a guy who is very likely to be named first or second team All-Defensive and could score 14-15 ppg with 40% shooting on threes.

If you believed Bradley is likely to play at that level over the next four years with some potential to be better, how much is he worth?  How much more would you be willing to give him if he had the same numbers but was three inches taller?

i said already that as of today i would go as high as 4/29. if he was 3 inches taller i would up that to 4/29.5 or maybe 4/30

Re: Avery Bradley rejected a four-year extension, worth 24 mil
« Reply #35 on: December 12, 2013, 09:01:24 PM »

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If he continues to shoot well and andnplay excellent defense, I really would not mind overpaying for him, but not more than $8 million.

He offers an elite skill, not to mentiom he plays well with Rondo. If he keeps the shooting, we keep him.
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Re: Avery Bradley rejected a four-year extension, worth 24 mil
« Reply #36 on: December 12, 2013, 09:06:10 PM »

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I do think that some people underestimate Bradley's value because they can't get past his (lack of) height.

I think his record shows that if you don't make him play point guard, he's a guy who is very likely to be named first or second team All-Defensive and could score 14-15 ppg with 40% shooting on threes.

If you believed Bradley is likely to play at that level over the next four years with some potential to be better, how much is he worth?  How much more would you be willing to give him if he had the same numbers but was three inches taller?

i said already that as of today i would go as high as 4/29. if he was 3 inches taller i would up that to 4/29.5 or maybe 4/30

Ok, now I'm curious as to the actual barrier between 4/29 and 4/29.5

Is it based on anything to do with the luxury tax ceiling, or is it just a comfort level thing (AB is worth ~7.25 but not ~7.37 a year?)
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Re: Avery Bradley rejected a four-year extension, worth 24 mil
« Reply #37 on: December 12, 2013, 09:22:47 PM »

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AB if people know is pretty close to Jeff Green.  But i also think there is a friendly competition going on between the two.

If you were AB, would you feel as a player you are lower than Jeff Green or better?

If i were AB, i'd think i'm pretty close. I made 2nd team all defense, plus i know i can score at a good efficiency rate (which he is doing now).

8 million is about right for the kid. I'd sign him to 4 or 5 years and rather try to trade Coutney Lee.

With AB for sure he can come off the bench, play some PG and give you excellent defense. Plus there is still a chance for him to be better than he has shown. So not your dead set starting future sg, but more like an insurance starting SG
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Re: Avery Bradley rejected a four-year extension, worth 24 mil
« Reply #38 on: December 12, 2013, 09:28:41 PM »

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Celtics dodged a bullet then. You don't win championships by overpaying average talent.

Re: Avery Bradley rejected a four-year extension, worth 24 mil
« Reply #39 on: December 12, 2013, 10:03:05 PM »

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Celtics dodged a bullet then. You don't win championships by overpaying average talent.

My thoughts exactly. TP. I would not sign Bradley for four years 24 million. Too much for me.

Re: Avery Bradley rejected a four-year extension, worth 24 mil
« Reply #40 on: December 12, 2013, 10:21:58 PM »

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Bradley is 23 years old, has around 2-3 more years of developing before he's in his prime of 26-30.

His PPG, FG%,3P% and Rebounds have all increased, in some cases dramatically, since last season. He is shooting 45% on 3s over the last 30 days.  His offense is really coming around.

On defense there is literally no one else better then him at his position, and he will be at the top for the next 4-5 years easily.

There is still a lot of season to go, but so far AB is trending upwards.  Rondo could help boost his numbers also, but we'll see. Overall I think if this continues he will be worth pretty close to 8mil per year, and I dont know if Danny should be quick to say "no thanks". He might actually be worth a lot more then 8-9-10 mil per year if he reaches full potential when he's 25+.

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I'd rather have AB at 8 than several on that list...that said those guys are on bad contracts.  That's the beauty of restricted free agency.

Re: Avery Bradley rejected a four-year extension, worth 24 mil
« Reply #41 on: December 12, 2013, 10:39:29 PM »

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How about we trade AB, JCRAW & Brooks to Cleveland for Waiters and Zellers?
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Re: Avery Bradley rejected a four-year extension, worth 24 mil
« Reply #42 on: December 12, 2013, 10:43:28 PM »

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I don't see him getting 8M per year from anybody else.   The market has already been set for guards... I don't see any way he gets the same money as players like Teague, Conley, Jennings, Mayo, and even Green.  The all had proven production and way more upside than Bradley does.

So if we don't work something out, then he'll sign to a reasonable offer sheet which the celtics will match.

The stupid teams that would overpay don't have any more money than the MLE to spend which I'd be fine with.
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Re: Avery Bradley rejected a four-year extension, worth 24 mil
« Reply #43 on: December 12, 2013, 11:00:24 PM »

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6 million per was more than fair from Ainge. Reality is that Bradley is a 6'3 combo guard, with horrible passing and ball handling skills. He's a solid shooter, but without better ball handling I can't see him being anything better than average on the offensive end.

Before anyone points to his offensive development realize 13 points on 12 shots isn't anything to right home about. Bradley is still a below average offensive player. He's also one of the worst passers I've seen at his position in a long time. I'd rather see Ainge trade him than pay him 8 million next year or let him walk for nothing.

Re: Avery Bradley rejected a four-year extension, worth 24 mil
« Reply #44 on: December 12, 2013, 11:01:00 PM »

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The Celtics are trying to keep Avery Bradley and they offered him a four-year, $24M contract extension last summer but he turned it down.

He wants at least 8 mln per year

Per Bleacher Report,  In fact, that's why, according to a source, the Celtics offered Avery Bradley a four-year $24 million deal (with a team option on the fourth year) this past offseason, but he turned it down. That's because he wants at least $8 million per year, which another source confirmed. Bradley will be a restricted free agent next summer, so things could get "tricky," as one source said, for the Celtics to keep him.
While Bradley had been considered limited offensively coming into this season, he's improved in that category from November to December. So far this month, he's averaging 15.2 points per game while shooting 50 percent and 60 percent from the field and three-point range, respectively.


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