Celtics interested in Amare

[Donoghus]

Let's move on from the Broussard stuff or this thread will be locked.

[D.o.s.]

but only if Shump regrows his flattop.

Please! I barely survived Tiquan Underwood, and he wore a helmet half of the time!

Haters gonna hate, but if we're giving up Wallace we better have someone who can keep our squad alive for the 13-14 Awesome/Awkward* Hair All-Stars award.


*For KO. As a formerly real long haired white dude, his "mane" makes me sad.

[sofutomygaha]

Based on the Knicks interest in Faried and the notion that seems to be out there that they need to replace Chandler's rebounding, I'm surprised that Kris Humphries isn't part of this discussion. The Knicks don't particularly have use for Courtney Lee.

Is Bass, Humphries, and Wallace for Amare and Shumpert completely ridiculous?

[D.o.s.]

Based on the Knicks interest in Faried and the notion that seems to be out there that they need to replace Chandler's rebounding, I'm surprised that Kris Humphries isn't part of this discussion. The Knicks don't particularly have use for Courtney Lee.

Is Bass, Humphries, and Wallace for Amare and Shumpert completely ridiculous?

It works in the trade machine, but I think I'd rather send Lee out to help us with our logjam at the 2/3--based on the idea that A'mare's going to spend most of the season in a suit, so he won't really cut into the playing time for our bigs.

[erisred]

Amare the new theo ratliff?!

Given the leg issues, I'd say he'd be the new Rafe LaFrance.

Wallace, Bass, Lee & Bradley for Amare & Shumpert?

I like the Wallace, Hump & Bass for Amare & Shumpert, but doubt the Knicks would fall for that one.  BTW, I do like Bradley, but of the available "good assets" I'd deal him before any of the others. Problem is, Amare *and* Shump have bad wheels. Amare isn't going to play much this year, at all, and trading him next year will be as big a problem as trying to trade Wallace...and he'll cost $13 more than Wallace would cost next year. Shumpert, maybe his knees heal up, maybe they don't, he'd be a risky pick up.

[sofutomygaha]

Based on the Knicks interest in Faried and the notion that seems to be out there that they need to replace Chandler's rebounding, I'm surprised that Kris Humphries isn't part of this discussion. The Knicks don't particularly have use for Courtney Lee.

Is Bass, Humphries, and Wallace for Amare and Shumpert completely ridiculous?

It works in the trade machine, but I think I'd rather send Lee out to help us with our logjam at the 2/3--based on the idea that A'mare's going to spend most of the season in a suit, so he won't really cut into the playing time for our bigs.

I look at it this way- we can tolerate a logjam and an albatross right now, because we are in asset-collecting phase, but the knicks can't; that's the price to acquire Shumpert. I don't know what that does to Lee... it probably just bumps Pressey off the floor entirely, which is ok for right now.

[kozlodoev]

Based on the Knicks interest in Faried and the notion that seems to be out there that they need to replace Chandler's rebounding, I'm surprised that Kris Humphries isn't part of this discussion. The Knicks don't particularly have use for Courtney Lee.

Is Bass, Humphries, and Wallace for Amare and Shumpert completely ridiculous?

It works in the trade machine, but I think I'd rather send Lee out to help us with our logjam at the 2/3--based on the idea that A'mare's going to spend most of the season in a suit, so he won't really cut into the playing time for our bigs.

Isn't Shumpert able to fill in the mop-up role behind Green at SF? I know he's not taller than Lee, but he's got 20 lbs on him and a solid frame.

[fairweatherfan]

Based on the Knicks interest in Faried and the notion that seems to be out there that they need to replace Chandler's rebounding, I'm surprised that Kris Humphries isn't part of this discussion. The Knicks don't particularly have use for Courtney Lee.

Is Bass, Humphries, and Wallace for Amare and Shumpert completely ridiculous?

It works in the trade machine, but I think I'd rather send Lee out to help us with our logjam at the 2/3--based on the idea that A'mare's going to spend most of the season in a suit, so he won't really cut into the playing time for our bigs.

More importantly for the overall deal, sending Shumpert out and not getting Lee back would leave the Knicks with very little at the 2 spot.  They're pretty poorly run but probably not that thoughtless about basic depth.

[sofutomygaha]

Based on the Knicks interest in Faried and the notion that seems to be out there that they need to replace Chandler's rebounding, I'm surprised that Kris Humphries isn't part of this discussion. The Knicks don't particularly have use for Courtney Lee.

Is Bass, Humphries, and Wallace for Amare and Shumpert completely ridiculous?

It works in the trade machine, but I think I'd rather send Lee out to help us with our logjam at the 2/3--based on the idea that A'mare's going to spend most of the season in a suit, so he won't really cut into the playing time for our bigs.

More importantly for the overall deal, sending Shumpert out and not getting Lee back would leave the Knicks with very little at the 2 spot.  They're pretty poorly run but probably not that thoughtless about basic depth.

That depends what they think they can do with Hardaway and Udrih, I guess. Right now, Udrih isn't getting any minutes, but he was a not-bad backup guard last year. Hardaway is getting 20 minutes and playing reasonably well. With JR Smith back, that gives them a 5-guard rotation.

[D.o.s.]

Based on the Knicks interest in Faried and the notion that seems to be out there that they need to replace Chandler's rebounding, I'm surprised that Kris Humphries isn't part of this discussion. The Knicks don't particularly have use for Courtney Lee.

Is Bass, Humphries, and Wallace for Amare and Shumpert completely ridiculous?

It works in the trade machine, but I think I'd rather send Lee out to help us with our logjam at the 2/3--based on the idea that A'mare's going to spend most of the season in a suit, so he won't really cut into the playing time for our bigs.

Isn't Shumpert able to fill in the mop-up role behind Green at SF? I know he's not taller than Lee, but he's got 20 lbs on him and a solid frame.

That's true, he can play (and defend) the wing.

[fairweatherfan]

Based on the Knicks interest in Faried and the notion that seems to be out there that they need to replace Chandler's rebounding, I'm surprised that Kris Humphries isn't part of this discussion. The Knicks don't particularly have use for Courtney Lee.

Is Bass, Humphries, and Wallace for Amare and Shumpert completely ridiculous?

It works in the trade machine, but I think I'd rather send Lee out to help us with our logjam at the 2/3--based on the idea that A'mare's going to spend most of the season in a suit, so he won't really cut into the playing time for our bigs.

More importantly for the overall deal, sending Shumpert out and not getting Lee back would leave the Knicks with very little at the 2 spot.  They're pretty poorly run but probably not that thoughtless about basic depth.

That depends what they think they can do with Hardaway and Udrih, I guess. Right now, Udrih isn't getting any minutes, but he was a not-bad backup guard last year. Hardaway is getting 20 minutes and playing reasonably well. With JR Smith back, that gives them a 5-guard rotation.

Udrih's been a PG his whole career I think (EDIT: Looks like he played a little 2 for the Bucks).  Felton and Prigioni are also PGs.  They do run some 2 PG lineups but would mostly be relying on JR Smith with an untested rookie as a primary backup.  An injury to either one would lead to some serious lineup juggling issues.  I don't think that'd be enough, but it is the Knicks so who knows.

[sofutomygaha]

Based on the Knicks interest in Faried and the notion that seems to be out there that they need to replace Chandler's rebounding, I'm surprised that Kris Humphries isn't part of this discussion. The Knicks don't particularly have use for Courtney Lee.

Is Bass, Humphries, and Wallace for Amare and Shumpert completely ridiculous?

It works in the trade machine, but I think I'd rather send Lee out to help us with our logjam at the 2/3--based on the idea that A'mare's going to spend most of the season in a suit, so he won't really cut into the playing time for our bigs.

More importantly for the overall deal, sending Shumpert out and not getting Lee back would leave the Knicks with very little at the 2 spot.  They're pretty poorly run but probably not that thoughtless about basic depth.

That depends what they think they can do with Hardaway and Udrih, I guess. Right now, Udrih isn't getting any minutes, but he was a not-bad backup guard last year. Hardaway is getting 20 minutes and playing reasonably well. With JR Smith back, that gives them a 5-guard rotation.

Udrih's been a PG his whole career I think (EDIT: Looks like he played a little 2 for the Bucks).  Felton and Prigioni are also PGs.  They do run some 2 PG lineups but would mostly be relying on JR Smith with an untested rookie as a primary backup.  An injury to either one would lead to some serious lineup juggling issues.  I don't think that'd be enough, but it is the Knicks so who knows.

Prigioni has played SG for the Knicks about 1/4 of the time, and he may have been a tick more effective there than at the point. You're probably right, though, given Prigioni's age, Felton's injury history, and JR Smith's unpredictability. The Knicks are on the ragged edge as it is

[fairweatherfan]

Haven't seen this link here:

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/9993989/new-york-knicks-continue-discuss-trade-packages-involving-iman-shumpert

Long story short, the Knicks are trying to package Shumpert and Amar'e for (shocker!) Rondo.  Double shocker - we're not interested and trying to give them Wallace instead.

I have no idea how the Knicks would think Shumpert would bring in Rondo when Amare costs much more, does much less, and expires at the same time as Rondo.  And Shumpert's had at least 2 knee surgeries, AND they have no 1sts to offer even if we wanted another on top of the 9 we're sitting on now.  Baffling that they'd think that package would get them anywhere near Rondo.

[D.o.s.]

interesting bit from that article:

The Knicks and Nuggets discussed a Shumpert-for-Kenneth Faried swap last week. New York believed it had a deal completed on Tuesday morning, a league source told ESPNNewYork.com. But the trade fell through when Denver asked the Knicks to include at least one draft pick.

[Birdman]

Pass..I wouldn't trade Rondo to either the Lakers or Knicks for anything