Author Topic: Matt Barnes is a punk  (Read 2842 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Celtics18

  • Tiny Archibald
  • *******
  • Posts: 7534
  • Tommy Points: 782
Re: Matt Barnes is a punk
« Reply #30 on: November 14, 2013, 01:11:48 PM »
Haha. The NBA's not so dirty little not so secret: Nonody wants a fight.

Nor should they.  I prefer the NBA sans fighting, to be honest. 

If folks want to see punches thrown, they can always tune into that other sport where grown men skate around with sticks and occasionally punch each other in the face.

I think a lot of guys feel that way. I personally do not. I also can spend an entire Sunday watching youtube videos of NBA fights from the 80s. Larry Bird is in a few of them..although I bet he agrees with you now more then me.

Same.

If these guys started throwing punches on a regular basis, it would get ugly for the image of the league.  I suspect that there are a lot of folks out there who already think that large, tattooed, black men who earn a lot of money and play basketball for a living are "punks" or "thugs"  by nature.

For me, I have no desire to see that stereotype re-enforced by seeing NBA players getting into fist fights.  To me, the game of basketball doesn't need that in any way, shape, or form.

Luckily, for you guys, you'll always have your '80s NBA fight compilations on YouTube.

I think that's probably the view of lots of the guys who run the league. Probably really sound too. But for me as a consumer, Id rather see a brawl once and a while. Baseball gets them , hockey gets them, football gets them, but not basketball. Not fair.

Life's not fair, but at least you can console yourself with the fact that when you watch a basketball game, you actually get to watch a game that's enjoyable to watch. 

You don't need to wait for a fight to break out to make it worthwhile.

Would rather see a punch every once in a while than the same old slam dunks on sports center.

We are supposed to be impressed by these guys dunking who are 2 feet taller than us. SWEET!

I've got nothing against a nice dunk, but I generally get more excited by plays like a sweet back door pass for an easy lay in, or a great defensive hustle play that leads to an easy transition bucket. 

I'm definitely not much of a fan of the way ESPN markets the game of basketball, though.  I'm in agreement with you there.   

Philadelphia Seventy-Sixers  DKC General Manager

Kendall Marshall/Dennis Schroeder/Marquis Teague/Ray McCallum
Evan Turner/Roger Mason Jr./Jason Richardson(injured)
Thaddeus Young/Victor Claver/Otto Porter
Spencer Hawes/Darrell Arthur/Erik Murphy
Timofey Mozgov/Lavoy Allen

Offline mgent

  • Antoine Walker
  • *****
  • Posts: 5151
  • Tommy Points: 562
Re: Matt Barnes is a punk
« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2013, 01:37:52 PM »
Plus, very few people in the NBA know how to fight.  (similar to offensive line men in the NFL)


So many of them grew up being the biggest kid in the area, no one really wanted to get into a fight with them anyways.
You're the second person to say this but I think, fighting skills or not, these fights would get brutal if we let them happen.  Regardless of form or technique, it would be the best athletes in the world with no helmets and no gloves.

It might look like a bunch of 5 year olds punching each other, which likely wouldn't get out of control, but give those 5 year olds spiked knuckles and they can do damage even if they don't know how.

This isn't hockey, where fighting isn't so much fighting as it's a display of balance, and the lack of traction keeps guys truly wailing on each other.
Philly:

Anderson Varejao    Tiago Splitter    Matt Bonner
David West    Kenyon Martin    Brad Miller
Andre Iguodala    Josh Childress    Marquis Daniels
Dwyane Wade    Leandro Barbosa
Kirk Hinrich    Toney Douglas   + the legendary Kevin McHale

Offline kozlodoev

  • Don Nelson
  • ********
  • Posts: 8781
  • Tommy Points: 469
Re: Matt Barnes is a punk
« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2013, 03:17:58 PM »
This isn't hockey, where fighting isn't so much fighting as it's a display of balance, and the lack of traction keeps guys truly wailing on each other.
I never understood that part of hockey. Football has a lot more and more violent contact, and there's no need for fisticuffs to keep the opponent in check. Meh.
Managing Rilski Sportist to glory at http://www.buzzerbeater.com

Online wdleehi

  • Forums ViceRoy
  • Bill Russell
  • ******************************
  • Posts: 30372
  • Tommy Points: 1331
  • Pre-school artwork
Re: Matt Barnes is a punk
« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2013, 03:39:05 PM »
Plus, very few people in the NBA know how to fight.  (similar to offensive line men in the NFL)


So many of them grew up being the biggest kid in the area, no one really wanted to get into a fight with them anyways.
You're the second person to say this but I think, fighting skills or not, these fights would get brutal if we let them happen.  Regardless of form or technique, it would be the best athletes in the world with no helmets and no gloves.

It might look like a bunch of 5 year olds punching each other, which likely wouldn't get out of control, but give those 5 year olds spiked knuckles and they can do damage even if they don't know how.

This isn't hockey, where fighting isn't so much fighting as it's a display of balance, and the lack of traction keeps guys truly wailing on each other.


But that's not what happens.  You usually end up seeing two really big guy dancing with each other. 



Yeah, if they were to throw a lot of punches, it would do lots of damage.  But they have never had to.



And a little guy who knew how to fight wouldn't likely beat the really large guy either.


Running the Clippers with Redz.

Offline action781

  • Bailey Howell
  • ***
  • Posts: 3627
  • Tommy Points: 271
Re: Matt Barnes is a punk
« Reply #34 on: November 14, 2013, 04:35:07 PM »
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/14/serge-ibaka-and-matt-barnes-ejected-after-altercation-involving-blake-griffin-video/

If you watch the video, Ibaka has a perfect right cross opportunity when he gets back in Barnes face, even had fist raised, but thought better of it.
I remember seeing Ibaka with a fist raised and I'm pretty sure that when he looked into Barnes' grinning face, he thought "that's not the face of a man who is afraid of being punched in the face" he saw Barnes internally saying "please hit me, i hope to god that you hit me and then are out of the league for 15 games for it"
.................to the
Assistant ^ General Manager for the Pawnee Pacers

Tony Parker, Courtney Lee, Rudy Gay, Zach Randolph, Marc Gasol
Jeff Teague, Paul George, Trevor Ariza, Chuck Hayes, Channing Frye
Kemba Walker, Andres Nocioni, Jason Collins

Offline action781

  • Bailey Howell
  • ***
  • Posts: 3627
  • Tommy Points: 271
Re: Matt Barnes is a punk
« Reply #35 on: November 14, 2013, 04:36:51 PM »
I don't know if I'm watching the correct video, but from what I'm seeing I have ZERO problem with what Barnes did. Ibaka began it with pushing Griffin on the back, Barnes hit back to protect him.

We used to be prideful of having players like that around here, doing this exact sort of thing.

Not that I don't think Barnes is a punk, but in this case, I don't get the whole hoopla going after Barnes' head.

No, Griffin began it by clenching Ibaka's arm and not letting it go.  Watch it again, it's a commonly used under-handed tactic in the NBA these days.  Used purely to frustrate opponents while looking very innocent in the process.
.................to the
Assistant ^ General Manager for the Pawnee Pacers

Tony Parker, Courtney Lee, Rudy Gay, Zach Randolph, Marc Gasol
Jeff Teague, Paul George, Trevor Ariza, Chuck Hayes, Channing Frye
Kemba Walker, Andres Nocioni, Jason Collins

Offline Vox_Populi

  • Jeff Green
  • Posts: 559
  • Tommy Points: 29
Re: Matt Barnes is a punk
« Reply #36 on: November 14, 2013, 11:01:53 PM »
Oh, there's also the part with the since-deleted Barnes tweet:

Quote
I love my teammates like family, but I’m DONE standing up for these [N-word]! All this [expletive] does is cost me money..

Oh boy.
I don't get it. What does he mean?

Online BudweiserCeltic

  • Ed Macauley
  • ***********
  • Posts: 11281
  • Tommy Points: 1085
Re: Matt Barnes is a punk
« Reply #37 on: November 14, 2013, 11:11:31 PM »
I don't know if I'm watching the correct video, but from what I'm seeing I have ZERO problem with what Barnes did. Ibaka began it with pushing Griffin on the back, Barnes hit back to protect him.

We used to be prideful of having players like that around here, doing this exact sort of thing.

Not that I don't think Barnes is a punk, but in this case, I don't get the whole hoopla going after Barnes' head.

No, Griffin began it by clenching Ibaka's arm and not letting it go.  Watch it again, it's a commonly used under-handed tactic in the NBA these days.  Used purely to frustrate opponents while looking very innocent in the process.

Meh, Ibaka could've easily pulled his hand instead of trying to shove Griffin away like he did.

In any case, whether Ibaka or Griffin started it, from Barnes POV he saw his star teammate getting shoved from the back... so the point stands on the same merit, and honestly if that was KG protecting Pierce or Posey protecting Rondo or such, we'd be applauding how good teammates they are, and how they add toughness to our team.

So in this instance, sorry but I'm not biting on the Barnes hate... though he's done a number of punk moves in the past, but this really wasn't one of it.

Offline IndeedProceed

  • Global Moderator
  • James Naismith
  • *********************************
  • Posts: 36567
  • Tommy Points: 1771
  • You ain't the boss of the freakin' bedclothes.
Re: Matt Barnes is a punk
« Reply #38 on: November 14, 2013, 11:21:15 PM »
I don't know if I'm watching the correct video, but from what I'm seeing I have ZERO problem with what Barnes did. Ibaka began it with pushing Griffin on the back, Barnes hit back to protect him.

We used to be prideful of having players like that around here, doing this exact sort of thing.

Not that I don't think Barnes is a punk, but in this case, I don't get the whole hoopla going after Barnes' head.

No, Griffin began it by clenching Ibaka's arm and not letting it go.  Watch it again, it's a commonly used under-handed tactic in the NBA these days.  Used purely to frustrate opponents while looking very innocent in the process.

Meh, Ibaka could've easily pulled his hand instead of trying to shove Griffin away like he did.

In any case, whether Ibaka or Griffin started it, from Barnes POV he saw his star teammate getting shoved from the back... so the point stands on the same merit, and honestly if that was KG protecting Pierce or Posey protecting Rondo or such, we'd be applauding how good teammates they are, and how they add toughness to our team.

So in this instance, sorry but I'm not biting on the Barnes hate... though he's done a number of punk moves in the past, but this really wasn't one of it.

I don't think what Ibaka did here was unwarranted, Griffin was for some reason pinning his arm. But like you I cap so have no issue with what Barnes did.

DKC Portland Trailblazers Team Card
Questions about the DKC? Ask here: LINK
Quote from: IndeedProceed
(insert funny/insightful/inside joke from me here at some point)

Online BudweiserCeltic

  • Ed Macauley
  • ***********
  • Posts: 11281
  • Tommy Points: 1085
Re: Matt Barnes is a punk
« Reply #39 on: November 14, 2013, 11:24:13 PM »
I don't know if I'm watching the correct video, but from what I'm seeing I have ZERO problem with what Barnes did. Ibaka began it with pushing Griffin on the back, Barnes hit back to protect him.

We used to be prideful of having players like that around here, doing this exact sort of thing.

Not that I don't think Barnes is a punk, but in this case, I don't get the whole hoopla going after Barnes' head.

No, Griffin began it by clenching Ibaka's arm and not letting it go.  Watch it again, it's a commonly used under-handed tactic in the NBA these days.  Used purely to frustrate opponents while looking very innocent in the process.

Meh, Ibaka could've easily pulled his hand instead of trying to shove Griffin away like he did.

In any case, whether Ibaka or Griffin started it, from Barnes POV he saw his star teammate getting shoved from the back... so the point stands on the same merit, and honestly if that was KG protecting Pierce or Posey protecting Rondo or such, we'd be applauding how good teammates they are, and how they add toughness to our team.

So in this instance, sorry but I'm not biting on the Barnes hate... though he's done a number of punk moves in the past, but this really wasn't one of it.

I don't think what Ibaka did here was unwarranted, Griffin was for some reason pinning his arm. But like you I cap so have no issue with what Barnes did.

I don't think it was unwarranted either, just unnecessary, but if you see an opposing player doing this to your star player, regardless of the circumstances that led to it, chances are that some form of retaliation is going to happen... it just happened it was Barnes there. And it looked like Griffin was going to get on it, whether Barnes got involved or not.

Offline SparzWizard

  • Rajon Rondo
  • Posts: 824
  • Tommy Points: 29
Re: Matt Barnes is a punk
« Reply #40 on: November 14, 2013, 11:25:58 PM »
LA Floppers and bunch of actresses.

Ibaka would've showed Griffin wuzzup. Barnes ain't got anything on Ibaka either.

Offline BASS_THUMPER

  • Scal's #1 Fan
  • Don Nelson
  • ********
  • Posts: 8377
  • Tommy Points: 3804
  • ~Thumper~
    • BASSTHUMPER
Re: Matt Barnes is a punk
« Reply #41 on: November 14, 2013, 11:28:34 PM »
anybody who put they hands on a woman is a punk
so barnes is that

Offline LooseCannon

  • Don Nelson
  • ********
  • Posts: 8095
  • Tommy Points: 604
Re: Matt Barnes is a punk
« Reply #42 on: November 14, 2013, 11:47:24 PM »
Oh, there's also the part with the since-deleted Barnes tweet:

Quote
I love my teammates like family, but I’m DONE standing up for these [N-word]! All this [expletive] does is cost me money..

Oh boy.

It's okay, Barnes is half-black, not merely an honorary black like Richie Incognito.
"The worst thing that ever happened in sports was sports radio, and the internet is sports radio on steroids with lower IQs.” -- Brian Burke, former Toronto Maple Leafs senior adviser, at the 2013 MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference

Offline D.o.s.

  • Antoine Walker
  • *****
  • Posts: 5450
  • Tommy Points: 333
Re: Matt Barnes is a punk
« Reply #43 on: November 15, 2013, 12:54:04 AM »
anybody who put they hands on a woman is a punk
so barnes is that

I agree.

I don't see many people using the term when we're talking about our own players, though.
Michael Jordan: It's a man's game, and you can't play.
 Bill Murray: It's 'cause I'm white, isn't it?
Michael Jordan: No. Larry's white, so what?
Bill Murray: Larry's not white. Larry's clear.

not sure the point of this thread.

Offline WeMadeIt17

  • Bailey Howell
  • ***
  • Posts: 3095
  • Tommy Points: 417
Re: Matt Barnes is a punk
« Reply #44 on: November 15, 2013, 01:01:51 AM »
I've disliked Barnes for some time now. Always looking to start something. Kobe punked him out a few years ago when he was with Orlando. Same with Pierce. He always trys to get under the teams best players skin. And he just comes out looking like an idiot every time.



L.A. Clippers
Felton/Afflalo/Gay/Griffin/Vucevic
Billups/Pietrus/Novak/Hill/Leonard
Daniels/Gooden/Turiaf

 

Hello! Guest

Welcome to the CelticsBlog Forums.

Welcome to CelticsBlog