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Stevens says Rajon's return is 'indeterminate'. Danny says 'I don't know when'

we go 20 wins 62 losses
8 (14.8%)
We go 26 and 56 losses
28 (51.9%)
we go 32 wins and 50 losses.
10 (18.5%)
we got 38 wins and 44 losses
4 (7.4%)
we tie last year's record of 41 wins  and 41 losses
4 (7.4%)

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Offline chambers

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Assuming he is back by December 1st that's 19 games( 23% of the regular season).

 If he comes back by the end of December that's up to 30+ games misses.(36.5% of the regular season)

If he misses 20 games what's our record in those 20?
If he misses 30 games what's our record?

The poll asks what do you think our total season record will be?
I'm also assuming he misses another 7 games due to random injuries (at least) and soreness. I think in 2007 he played the most regular season games at 77.

 I feel this is probably just given how hard he plays and puts his body on the line and the fact he'll have to drive to the rim more to create space because he doesn't have shooters around him like he's used to.
He'll take it into his own hands- which is great for his development but not so great for his body.

I wonder if Danny decides to just sit him once it's looking like a nightmare and we have a better idea of our lottery hopes around February.
Am I the only one that sees Rondo sitting for 5 games stretches here and there due to 'soreness' like Pierce did in 2006-2007

Here's the boss and his coach talking about it. Danny gives plenty of information and smoke at the same time. Seems he's teaching young grasshopper Stevens the misinformation tricks already...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSiif4IhPaQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CxbDlwJQts
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Re: AInge says Rondo will miss first 20- 30 games. What's our win record now?
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2013, 06:10:34 PM »

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Knowing Danny and as someone who believes he is managerial-style tanking then I think Rondo sits out at least 30 games due to recovery.
I could see another 10 games being sat out quite easily through nagging injuries like fingers, his plantar problems etc..
That's 40 games missed at least.
In those 40 games he's out I could see us winning maybe 6 to 8.
The 40 games he's back-assuming everyone else is healthy like Green and Sully, then I think we could go 15-18 of 40.

My guess is our record is about 23-26 wins depending on Rondo's game total. If we have any other players like Green or Sully go down then ugh. Gimme the vodka now.
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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2013, 06:12:13 PM »

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Well, lottery here we come.  At least I won't have to watch too many games and have a good excuse not to (sleep).  Losing ball makes me angry and I don't like being angry.


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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2013, 07:17:02 PM »

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This was what we were expecting two months ago, so I still think they'll win 28-35 games... good for 10th seed in the East, and a top 10 pick, maybe a top 5 pick.

Expect a lot of losses at the start of the season, and some good wins in April, when we're out of the playoff race.

Go Celtics!

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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2013, 07:23:07 PM »

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Injuries are a part of the game. I still think we're good for about 25 wins.
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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2013, 09:23:22 PM »

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I voted for 41 wins, only because there was no option for 42 or more. 
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PG: G. Hill/D. Schroder
SG: C. Lee/B. Hield/T. Luwawu
SF:  Giannis/J. Lamb/M. Kuzminskas
PF:  E. Ilyasova/J. Jerebko/R. Christmas
C:    N. Vucevic/K. Olynyk/E. Davis/C. Jefferson

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I'm going to assume Rondo misses about 30 games, and the Celtics win a approximately a quarter of the games in which Rondo is not playing.  I'll assume they'll win about a third of their games in which Rondo plays.

So, 7 + 17 = 24 wins.
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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2013, 09:48:00 PM »

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i think this current team without rondo will surprise many people

october
our first reg season game is vs raptors

no problem

november
outta 18 games i only problem i see is with the Heat
and only because we on the road and we play magic first

other than that it should be ..

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« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2013, 10:34:39 PM »

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By the way, Chambers, hysterical thread title.  I listened to those clips you posted, and I guess I must have missed something.  I certainly didn't hear him say anything remotely claiming that Rondo will miss the first 20 to 30 games. 

Basically, we are back to where we always were.  We have no idea when Rondo will return, but we'd be very surprised if it was on opening night. 
« Last Edit: September 24, 2013, 11:10:36 PM by Celtics18 »
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PG: G. Hill/D. Schroder
SG: C. Lee/B. Hield/T. Luwawu
SF:  Giannis/J. Lamb/M. Kuzminskas
PF:  E. Ilyasova/J. Jerebko/R. Christmas
C:    N. Vucevic/K. Olynyk/E. Davis/C. Jefferson

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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2013, 11:03:27 PM »

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Team = Result = Logic
Raptors = L = They have more talent.
Bucks = W = Not enough talent
Pistons = L = Better over all talent.
Grizzlies = L = talent gap/ favorable mismatches/ simply a better team.
Jazz = L = Size advantage
Magic = W = Lack of talent
Heat = L = They will revel in the chance to utterly crush us in our weakend state and I expect they will.
Magic = W = They just suck too much
Bobcats = L = Al Jefferson
Trailblazers = L = More talented
Timberwolves = L = More talented and front-court advantage.
Rockets = L = More talented
Spurs = L = These cats don't play with their food.
Pacers = L = Worst mismatch ever.
Hawks = W = This could go either way.
Bobcats = W = They're the Bobcats at the end of the day
Grizzlies = L = Simply too good.
Cavs = L = Slightly more talented + Kyrie Irving
Bucks = W = We have more talent

6W and 14L.

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« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2013, 12:57:44 AM »

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Not to be a negative Ned, but we have a point-forward now in Olynyk. I can't see Rondo finding any time on the floor even when he is healthy...
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i think this current team without rondo will surprise many people

october
our first reg season game is vs raptors

no problem

november
outta 18 games i only problem i see is with the Heat
and only because we on the road and we play magic first

other than that it should be ..

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I reckon our season ends up looking following a pattern like the Wizards last season, and we end up with a win percentage between .350 and .450. Cannot vote as the mobile web version doesn`t show polls
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« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2013, 02:11:30 AM »

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Team = Result = Logic
Raptors = L = They have more talent.
Bucks = W = Not enough talent
Pistons = L = Better over all talent.
Grizzlies = L = talent gap/ favorable mismatches/ simply a better team.
Jazz = L = Size advantage
Magic = W = Lack of talent
Heat = L = They will revel in the chance to utterly crush us in our weakend state and I expect they will.
Magic = W = They just suck too much
Bobcats = L = Al Jefferson
Trailblazers = L = More talented
Timberwolves = L = More talented and front-court advantage.
Rockets = L = More talented
Spurs = L = These cats don't play with their food.
Pacers = L = Worst mismatch ever.
Hawks = W = This could go either way.
Bobcats = W = They're the Bobcats at the end of the day
Grizzlies = L = Simply too good.
Cavs = L = Slightly more talented + Kyrie Irving
Bucks = W = We have more talent

6W and 14L.

You really think a matchup against the Hawks could go either way?  They are so much better.  Horford is miles better than anyone on this team without Rondo.  Millsap is better anybody else. Teague is a solid point guard and would be a huge upgrade over any of the Rondo replacements we'll throw out there.  They also have one of the best three point snipers in Korver. 

I doubt we'll sweep Milwaukee either.  With Butler, Mayo, Neal, Knight and Illyasova, they have more perimeter shooting and scoring and I think the presence of Larry Sanders makes them a better defense than us. 

Dang, you take Pierce, KG and Rondo off this team from last year, replace them with Olynyk, Humphries and Wallace, well, that's pretty awful.  We'll near the bottom talent-wise without Rondo.

 

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« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2013, 05:33:16 AM »

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By the way, Chambers, hysterical thread title.  I listened to those clips you posted, and I guess I must have missed something.  I certainly didn't hear him say anything remotely claiming that Rondo will miss the first 20 to 30 games. 

Basically, we are back to where we always were.  We have no idea when Rondo will return, but we'd be very surprised if it was on opening night.



Huh? They both said he's out till at least December. That's at least 20 games. We don't know when in December.

I'll take a bet on his return month if youre so confident it's earlier?
You are right though, I should have put 41+ wins option too.

I'm being 100% serious on the December return. You probably know Ainge's angle in these scenarios and when he'd be 'shocked' to see Rondo play opening night and all states he doesn't think he'll be ready till at least December...this backed up by Stevens' statement about December and Ainge's history of injury return dates....
He's missing at least 19 games lol.
I'll bet on it.
« Last Edit: September 25, 2013, 07:25:03 AM by chambers »
"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

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Read that last line again. One more time.