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Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #135 on: August 26, 2013, 09:22:28 PM »

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You are, of course, at a big risk injury/performance-wise with your exposure to stoudemire, kobe, mwp, and aging vince carter.

I was kinda surprised to see that MWP has only missed 16 total games over the last 4 years, and VC hasn't missed more than 9 games in the last 10 seasons.  They're both still very durable.

Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #136 on: August 26, 2013, 10:17:29 PM »

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Wondering what people think after todays draft day.

PG: Rondo/Hinrich
SG: Martin/(Hinrich)
SF: DWilliams/Harkless
PF: Sanders/Bargnani
C:  Lopez/(Sanders)

Solid team but concerns on the SF spot.

Derrick Williams is still considered a tweener and has not shown that he can be a three, so I think I'd rather start Harkless.

I mean no disrespect as well but outside of Rondo and Sanders, this is nota very good defensive team. Problem is, there's not a ton of firepower as well to offset that.

My concern is the three slot as well but we can run a number of different lineups that could be effective. Sanders and Williams can play the 4/5 together. Bargs Sanders, Bargs Williams. Plenty of options to get Williams out of that three slot.

I like Sanders and Rondo on defense and Lopez can at least protect the rim. Harkless is young but is 6 9 and is very athletic. And Hinrich is a solid defender as well. A couple more pick ups in the next couple days should round me out nicely.

Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #137 on: August 27, 2013, 06:28:40 AM »

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You are, of course, at a big risk injury/performance-wise with your exposure to stoudemire, kobe, mwp, and aging vince carter.

I was kinda surprised to see that MWP has only missed 16 total games over the last 4 years, and VC hasn't missed more than 9 games in the last 10 seasons.  They're both still very durable.

yeah, I put MWP in the "performance-wise" risk category. He can be a net negative on offense these days.

Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #138 on: August 27, 2013, 08:32:48 AM »

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Didn't get anything last time, so:

Orlando Kobes


PG: George Hill/Jarrett Jack
SG: Kobe/Vince Carter/(Jack)
SF: Metta World Peace/(Carter)/(Kobe)
PF: Paul Millsap/Amar'e Stoudemire/Nick Collison
C: Omer Asik/(Stoudemire)/(Collison)

I was very unimpressed with the starting lineup at first glance (meaning I thought it was a .500 team), then saw the positive comments and took another look.  I felt it would lack scoring and be too Kobe dependent and he'd be forced to score at a low efficiency.

Then I saw Amare on the bench.  I think Amare is a really really good fit for this team.  He can still score 15ppg off the bench and really bolsters the squad.  Jack is obviously a top bench guy in the league as well.  Kobe hasn't had a bench he can depend on to not only hold leagues, but actually build leads in... I can't remember.  I like that a lot.   

The starting lineup is still asking a lot of Kobe at his age, which I think will keep this team from being a top contender, but I like it.

p.s. This team is definitely appropriately named.  Good work on that,
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Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #139 on: August 27, 2013, 08:40:04 AM »

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PG: Deron
SG: Ray Allen
SF: Durant
PF: Scola
C:  R. Lopez.

as I said in the other thread Ray will get about 25 MPG, and I plan on acuiring another SG at some point as insurance.
I know its just rehashing an old trade but if you could have kept that 4th rounder and given up a later pick or maybe got back a 6th and 7th rather than an 11th and 12th, you are one of the top teams in the league.

For instance if you got 6th and 7th rounders instead of 11th and 1th you could also have Kosta Koufos and Courtney Lee on your team. or Gerald Henderson and Andray Blatche. Suddenly, you have a completely different team.

As for the team that you do have, its a very good start but you have two 25 MPG role players in the starting lineup. Lopez, like his brother, is a poor rebounder for a 7 footer. He can D up okay and dunk really well but....And Ray is what he is. He's a sharp shooting 3 point specialist scorer who you have to limit to 25 MPG max.

Even with the superstars, you are a fringe playoff team right now, at best.

I agree a lot with nick's assessment, except that you are a fringe playoff team right now.  I think you are definitely a playoff team.  SGs have gotten a lot of open looks from 3 on OKC the past few years and I think Ray will get those and knock them down regularly.  Your team will depend heavily on how else you build around it.  You only need one more good scorer off the bench and the rest defense and good fits.  I'd like another somewhat of an impact player in some manner.
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Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #140 on: August 27, 2013, 08:47:41 AM »

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Mile High City Nuggets (thru 7)

PG: Damian Lillard      /   Kyle Lowry
SG: Courtney Lee        /   [some Lillard and Webster minutes here]
SF: Wilson Chandler    /   Martell Webster
PF: Greg Monroe        /   [some Varejao minutes here]
C : Andrew Bogut       /   Anderson Varejao

Very very good bench.  Not enough minutes that Lowry deserves though.  You should try to trade Lowry to IP and get back another player of Lowry's level like Lebron James or Kevin Durant.
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Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #141 on: August 27, 2013, 10:11:47 AM »

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Hey guys,
  I would be interested to know what you think of where I'm at

Brooklyn, coached by Doc Rivers
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1. Russell Westbrook
2. Manu Ginobili / Tyreke Evans
3. Kawhi Leonard
4. J.J. Hickson
5. Kosta Koufos / Nerlens Noel

My goal is a team that can play up tempo like Denver but defend more like, say, OKC. I had some bumps in the road- my 3rd and 4th picks came in quite late because of some travel problems and I was shockingly ignorant of the recent whispers that Noel will sit the whole season.

I still think I've got a squad that can gel. My big failure is the interior defensive presence. Koufos is an excellent PnR defender and I was lucky to get him so late, but I've got no one who can stand up to a decent post-up offense. I'm not sure what I'll find from here out.

Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #142 on: August 27, 2013, 10:18:23 AM »

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I think your big man rotation is a disaster. Koufos is a solid C, but nothing special. Definitely not an anchor.

Hickson is a bad player when he's slotted in as an undersized C to make him work offensively. At PF he doesn't work on offense or defense.

Noel is a great prospect, but a complete question mark.

I love the talent at guard/wing, but I'm skeptical Westbrook/Manu/Tyreke makes sense. All three are at their best with the ball, hard to make that mesh. I think you'll need some low usage shooters to make it all hum.

I haven't analyzed most of the league, so I can't say if your a playoff team or not, but if you are its on the bottom end due to your big men.

Edit PS: Denver's system was built on uptempo and a huge dose of small ball with Gallo/Chandler/Brewer at the 4, are you going to do the same with Leonard?

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« Reply #143 on: August 27, 2013, 12:51:19 PM »

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I think your big man rotation is a disaster. Koufos is a solid C, but nothing special. Definitely not an anchor.

Hickson is a bad player when he's slotted in as an undersized C to make him work offensively. At PF he doesn't work on offense or defense.

Noel is a great prospect, but a complete question mark.

I love the talent at guard/wing, but I'm skeptical Westbrook/Manu/Tyreke makes sense. All three are at their best with the ball, hard to make that mesh. I think you'll need some low usage shooters to make it all hum.

I haven't analyzed most of the league, so I can't say if your a playoff team or not, but if you are its on the bottom end due to your big men.

Edit PS: Denver's system was built on uptempo and a huge dose of small ball with Gallo/Chandler/Brewer at the 4, are you going to do the same with Leonard?


I think this is a fair assessment. Going along with what I said about a Denver-esque offense, my hope with hickson is that he can play a Kenneth Faried role. He's efficient (or at least he was this year), he's a very good finisher, and he's a great rebounder... and he's absolutely nothing else. Denver acquired him, so I'm guessing they agree with me.

... so Hickson plays PF.

...but I really need competent bigs and some shooters who can play off the ball. It may be too late.

Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #144 on: August 27, 2013, 01:04:47 PM »

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Fixed the lack of shooting in the starting lineup

PG: Ty Lawson / [Crawford]
SG: Tony Allen / Jamal Crawford
SF: Caron Butler / Gerald Wallace
PF: Al Horford / Carl Landry / [Wallace]
C: Kevin Garnett / [Horford]

Wallace will start against the better SFs / more mobile PFs of the league.
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Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #145 on: August 27, 2013, 01:16:41 PM »

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Fixed the lack of shooting in the starting lineup

PG: Ty Lawson / [Crawford]
SG: Tony Allen / Jamal Crawford
SF: Caron Butler / Gerald Wallace
PF: Al Horford / Carl Landry / [Wallace]
C: Kevin Garnett / [Horford]

Wallace will start against the better SFs / more mobile PFs of the league.

I think this is my favorite team in the CB Draft.

Cleveland, Orlando, and Minnesota are the top-tier contenders in my mind.  I like Champ's team, too, although it could maybe use a little massaging.

Who am I overlooking?


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Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #146 on: August 27, 2013, 01:28:29 PM »

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Fixed the lack of shooting in the starting lineup

PG: Ty Lawson / [Crawford]
SG: Tony Allen / Jamal Crawford
SF: Caron Butler / Gerald Wallace
PF: Al Horford / Carl Landry / [Wallace]
C: Kevin Garnett / [Horford]

Wallace will start against the better SFs / more mobile PFs of the league.

I think this is my favorite team in the CB Draft.

Cleveland, Orlando, and Minnesota are the top-tier contenders in my mind.  I like Champ's team, too, although it could maybe use a little massaging.

Who am I overlooking?

Miami, predictably.

Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #147 on: August 27, 2013, 01:31:25 PM »

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Fixed the lack of shooting in the starting lineup

PG: Ty Lawson / [Crawford]
SG: Tony Allen / Jamal Crawford
SF: Caron Butler / Gerald Wallace
PF: Al Horford / Carl Landry / [Wallace]
C: Kevin Garnett / [Horford]

Wallace will start against the better SFs / more mobile PFs of the league.

I think this is my favorite team in the CB Draft.

Cleveland, Orlando, and Minnesota are the top-tier contenders in my mind.  I like Champ's team, too, although it could maybe use a little massaging.

Who am I overlooking?

Miami, predictably.

Overlooking the KC-At-The-Stripes is a CelticsBlog tradition, though.

Plus, do you really want my support?  Last year I thought you had an excellent team, and you got upset in the second round by a team with an injured center, injured point guard, and aging shooting guard.


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Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #148 on: August 27, 2013, 02:10:48 PM »

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Jeff Teague, Sessions
OJ Mayo, (Barnes)
MKG, Barnes
Davis West, Sully, (Blatche)
Tim Duncan, Birdman, (Blatche)

Could've drafted Sully when I got Blatche but I think it gives me everything from my big men after adding Birdman. Defense, offense, rebounding, guys who can operate outside the paint.

Post Butler/MKG Trade, thoughts?
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Re: 2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?
« Reply #149 on: August 27, 2013, 02:22:46 PM »

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Posting his more for personal reference above anything else since we're looking to make more moves, but feel free to compliment and/or critique as well:

Calderon | Barea
Matthews | Delfino | [Pondexter]
Mbah a Moute | Pondexter | [Delfino] | [Matthews]
Nowitzki | Davis | [Mbah a Moute]
Gasol | [Davis] | Olynyk

I didn't realize this earlier, but I must say I'm quite pleased with the versatility of our bench.