How good do you see MarShon Brooks becoming?

[tarheelsxxiii]

He has a lot of George Mikan in his game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xEoCsDKXPo

nice video, but have we entered non sequitur world? unless you mean to show that brooks has a great sky hook as part of his game. if so, i would love to see that video.

He showed signs of having a strong, well-rounded post game at Providence. I believe Stevens will be paramount in his development down low. The Kobe comparisons are valid if, and only if, he becomes a great fadeaway shooter like Bryant. After all, it wasn't until Lebron developed a post game that he won his first crown.

[OsirusCeltics]

Not good enough. We should get rid of our SG's and find a real one.

Problem is, this isn't a league filled with great SGs anymore. The influx of shoot first PGs has really changed the backcourt dynamics of the NBA and caused SGs to get less looks and shots. Also, many of these shoot first PGs probably would have been SGs 15 years ago.

The league is just filthy rich in great to elite PGs but sorely lacking in just very good to elite SGs. It makes finding a "real" SG to put with Rondo a difficult thing to do.

Hit the nail on the head, you just described Russell Westbrook

[Tr1boy]

A poor mans jamal crawford.

Someone who can give u 8 to 10 pts , 3 reb and assist off the bench consistently but once in a while explodes for 25-30 pts and steal games for the team

[TeamGreen.dm]

Personally i think Marshon Brooks is just another player who has huge upside andw as given only one real chance to play on a NBA team. Once the Nets made the splashes with Dwill and Johnson his role became almost obsolete. I've heard comparisons of Kobe and Brooks in their offensive game. Now no I'm not comparing them at all but offensively they have similar games, and not that i think Brooks can put up Kobe numbers in scoring but i would much rather have Brooks gettimg the minutes than Bogans or Crawford. Especially if by mid season were in full on tank mode because than at least we can really see what this kids all about

[Boris Badenov]

He'll be in an all star game one day

His market value before the 2013 draft was by some accounts lower than a mid-range 2014 second round pick. That would be quite a turnaround.

Wasn't Rashard Lewis, Micheal Redd, and Gilbert Arenas (all were all stars) 2nd round draft picks?

Are you saying that every future 2nd round pick should be valued in trades as though it will yield an Arenas/Redd/Lewis quality player?

If so we may have overpaid for Courtney Lee. We traded three 2nd round picks for him.

And are you saying that just because Brooks was a projected 2nd round pick that suddenly his b-ball career is already pre-destined?

Nope.

I'm saying that before the draft this year Minny was looking to unload their first round pick. Reputable sources had BKN offering Brooks for the pick, but Minny ended up trading it for a GSW 2014 2nd round pick.

In other words BKN was shopping Brooks as recently as this year's draft but he was valued less highly than a 2014 2nd round pick, by at least one other team.

Hence what I wrote above...

And here are links to sources about the trades:

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=66353.msg1511092#msg1511092

[RLewis35]

You are leaving out half of the story.  They decided they valued a 2nd rd pick AND the salary cap savings giving them more money to sign another fa, than brooks.

He'll be in an all star game one day

His market value before the 2013 draft was by some accounts lower than a mid-range 2014 second round pick. That would be quite a turnaround.

Wasn't Rashard Lewis, Micheal Redd, and Gilbert Arenas (all were all stars) 2nd round draft picks?

Are you saying that every future 2nd round pick should be valued in trades as though it will yield an Arenas/Redd/Lewis quality player?

If so we may have overpaid for Courtney Lee. We traded three 2nd round picks for him.

And are you saying that just because Brooks was a projected 2nd round pick that suddenly his b-ball career is already pre-destined?

Nope.

I'm saying that before the draft this year Minny was looking to unload their first round pick. Reputable sources had BKN offering Brooks for the pick, but Minny ended up trading it for a GSW 2014 2nd round pick.

In other words BKN was shopping Brooks as recently as this year's draft but he was valued less highly than a 2014 2nd round pick, by at least one other team.

Hence what I wrote above...

And here are links to sources about the trades:

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=66353.msg1511092#msg1511092

[PhoSita]

Personally i think Marshon Brooks is just another player who has huge upside andw as given only one real chance to play on a NBA team. Once the Nets made the splashes with Dwill and Johnson his role became almost obsolete. I've heard comparisons of Kobe and Brooks in their offensive game. Now no I'm not comparing them at all but offensively they have similar games, and not that i think Brooks can put up Kobe numbers in scoring but i would much rather have Brooks gettimg the minutes than Bogans or Crawford. Especially if by mid season were in full on tank mode because than at least we can really see what this kids all about

I want to reiterate the point I made earlier.

The Kobe comparison is a poor one.  Even if it has some truth, it's not very flattering.

Kobe without all of the incredible talent, drive, and athleticism is not a very useful player.  There's very little use for a ball-hog who isn't supremely efficient on offense.

[Galeto]

Personally i think Marshon Brooks is just another player who has huge upside andw as given only one real chance to play on a NBA team. Once the Nets made the splashes with Dwill and Johnson his role became almost obsolete. I've heard comparisons of Kobe and Brooks in their offensive game. Now no I'm not comparing them at all but offensively they have similar games, and not that i think Brooks can put up Kobe numbers in scoring but i would much rather have Brooks gettimg the minutes than Bogans or Crawford. Especially if by mid season were in full on tank mode because than at least we can really see what this kids all about

I want to reiterate the point I made earlier.

The Kobe comparison is a poor one.  Even if it has some truth, it's not very flattering.

Kobe without all of the incredible talent, drive, and athleticism is not a very useful player.  There's very little use for a ball-hog who isn't supremely efficient on offense.

Yeah, comparing him to Kobe is ludicrous.  He's copied some of Kobe's moves, or rather, he's copied Jordan by way of Kobe, but I wouldn't characterize him as a ball hog.  What impressed me is that he was able to expand his game almost at the drop of the hat when Avery Johnson told him to do so during his rookie season.  He was a chucker at Providence and was still a chucker early in his rookie season.  Then Avery told him he needed to be more well-rounded and well, he went out and did it.  He became much more patient and started making plays for his teammates.  It's impressive that he was able to do it and also impressive that he listened so readily.  Jordan Crawford launching bad shots he is not.

[bleedGREENdon]

he will lead the league in scoring next year, and become the biggest steal in a trade in NBA history. Will become the next Kobe Braynt, the Green MAMBA, and we will trade 3 firsts for LMA or Cousins, and have the best starting 5 in the league of

Rondo
Brooks
Green
Oly
LMA/COUSINS

average 106 ppg, but yet still finish the year with 15 wins due to giving up 120ppg and draft Wiggins with the first overall pick.

[TripleOT]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6J4juRaBMc

This is what happens when he gets big minutes. Now would you rather have Jordan Chuckford over that?

That was an impressive game by MB.  He showed that he can see the floor and pass the basketball, as well as press his own offense.  I'm looking forward to seeing if Brooks can play well rounded, team basketball, as well as put the ball in the hoop. 

[LooseCannon]

They play different positions, but MarShon Brooks contributes much less than Brandon Bass when neither is making shots and is less likely to make a shot than Bass.

[fitzhickey]

They play different positions, but MarShon Brooks contributes much less than Brandon Bass when neither is making shots and is less likely to make a shot than Bass.

the difference in fg% is 2% so i think that doesnt really count for much. i would much rather have a guy who can score 15 get 4 boards and 3 assists per 36
than 11 pts 7 rebs

[SHAQATTACK]

he will lead the league in scoring next year, and become the biggest steal in a trade in NBA history. Will become the next Kobe Braynt, the Green MAMBA, and we will trade 3 firsts for LMA or Cousins, and have the best starting 5 in the league of

Rondo
Brooks
Green
Oly
LMA/COUSINS




average 106 ppg, but yet still finish the year with 15 wins due to giving up 120ppg and draft Wiggins with the first overall pick.

HE IS .....the  "NEXT BLACK MAMBA"

[LooseCannon]

They play different positions, but MarShon Brooks contributes much less than Brandon Bass when neither is making shots and is less likely to make a shot than Bass.

the difference in fg% is 2% so i think that doesnt really count for much. i would much rather have a guy who can score 15 get 4 boards and 3 assists per 36
than 11 pts 7 rebs

If the first guy plays matador defense and the second guy hustles on defense, would you still feel that way?

[Rondohara]

Not good enough. We should get rid of our SG's and find a real one.

Problem is, this isn't a league filled with great SGs anymore. The influx of shoot first PGs has really changed the backcourt dynamics of the NBA and caused SGs to get less looks and shots. Also, many of these shoot first PGs probably would have been SGs 15 years ago.

The league is just filthy rich in great to elite PGs but sorely lacking in just very good to elite SGs. It makes finding a "real" SG to put with Rondo a difficult thing to do.

Hit the nail on the head, you just described Russell Westbrook

Yes, that's right. Also described a lot of others PG's... say the last 2 ROYs more or less. It's not really easy to find a quality "real" SG to go well with Rondo, but that would be great for the team, would really take it to another level. If the young Celtics SG's start playing better, we can try a trade.