Bad for the NBA! (Brooklyn Nets)

[TeamGreen.dm]

Watching Celtics basketball I've seen PP ISO nearly every close out play. I am curious who will have the ball in their hand in the closing minutes of games and the last shot.

If there's one thing you may consider Joe Johnson the best at is his clutch performance late in games and his ability to hit game winners. Paul shows the same ability, as well as the competitive drive to want the ball. Now theres d-will, he's the ISO king of PGs and also demands the ball late in games. Why do you think they were a first round knockout. The fact is this team has a hard time co existing.

So you add PP and KG. Garnett and Lopez have very similar games, Lopez possibly being used solely in the post WHICH will in fact will hurt his game. And Paul will either be obsolete in this offense due too lack of touches in the offense or he will take Dwill and Johnson out of there game. There's a huge difference between adding 2-3 stars to a team because its easier too spread the ball and keep them in their respective game, but the Nets arguably have 5 stars(two aging) but they all still demand high touches and i doubt it works as the SUPER team they are being dubbed as.

[sed522002]

Watching Celtics basketball I've seen PP ISO nearly every close out play. I am curious who will have the ball in their hand in the closing minutes of games and the last shot.

If there's one thing you may consider Joe Johnson the best at is his clutch performance late in games and his ability to hit game winners. Paul shows the same ability, as well as the competitive drive to want the ball. Now theres d-will, he's the ISO king of PGs and also demands the ball late in games. Why do you think they were a first round knockout. The fact is this team has a hard time co existing.

So you add PP and KG. Garnett and Lopez have very similar games, Lopez possibly being used solely in the post WHICH will in fact will hurt his game. And Paul will either be obsolete in this offense due too lack of touches in the offense or he will take Dwill and Johnson out of there game. There's a huge difference between adding 2-3 stars to a team because its easier too spread the ball and keep them in their respective game, but the Nets arguably have 5 stars(two aging) but they all still demand high touches and i doubt it works as the SUPER team they are being dubbed as.

PP knows how to play within the confines of the team. This part in his career he knows how to defer. He's not going to go to that team being demanding and he'll get his touches because they have enough guys on the floor that will warrant a double team.

[KGs Knee]

Watching Celtics basketball I've seen PP ISO nearly every close out play. I am curious who will have the ball in their hand in the closing minutes of games and the last shot.

If there's one thing you may consider Joe Johnson the best at is his clutch performance late in games and his ability to hit game winners. Paul shows the same ability, as well as the competitive drive to want the ball. Now theres d-will, he's the ISO king of PGs and also demands the ball late in games. Why do you think they were a first round knockout. The fact is this team has a hard time co existing.

So you add PP and KG. Garnett and Lopez have very similar games, Lopez possibly being used solely in the post WHICH will in fact will hurt his game. And Paul will either be obsolete in this offense due too lack of touches in the offense or he will take Dwill and Johnson out of there game. There's a huge difference between adding 2-3 stars to a team because its easier too spread the ball and keep them in their respective game, but the Nets arguably have 5 stars(two aging) but they all still demand high touches and i doubt it works as the SUPER team they are being dubbed as.

I think you are wrong.  Obviously you haven't been watching KG and Pierce during their time with the C's.  I doubt either one of them will have a hard time adapting.  Pierce has always been superber at seeing the game, and adding to it what is needed.  KG is willing to defer as well.

I think you are wildly exaggerating any issues that may exist.

[sed522002]

Watching Celtics basketball I've seen PP ISO nearly every close out play. I am curious who will have the ball in their hand in the closing minutes of games and the last shot.

If there's one thing you may consider Joe Johnson the best at is his clutch performance late in games and his ability to hit game winners. Paul shows the same ability, as well as the competitive drive to want the ball. Now theres d-will, he's the ISO king of PGs and also demands the ball late in games. Why do you think they were a first round knockout. The fact is this team has a hard time co existing.

So you add PP and KG. Garnett and Lopez have very similar games, Lopez possibly being used solely in the post WHICH will in fact will hurt his game. And Paul will either be obsolete in this offense due too lack of touches in the offense or he will take Dwill and Johnson out of there game. There's a huge difference between adding 2-3 stars to a team because its easier too spread the ball and keep them in their respective game, but the Nets arguably have 5 stars(two aging) but they all still demand high touches and i doubt it works as the SUPER team they are being dubbed as.

I think you are wrong.  Obviously you haven't been watching KG and Pierce during their time with the C's.  I doubt either one of them will have a hard time adapting.  Pierce has always been superber at seeing the game, and adding to it what is needed.  KG is willing to defer as well.

I think you are wildly exaggerating any issues that may exist.

^This. If PP could relinquish some of the team to KG when he arrived, when it was clearly his team, then I definitely don't see him having a problem in BKN. They'll put their stamp on the team, but not at the expense of the team.

[TeamGreen.dm]

Watching Celtics basketball I've seen PP ISO nearly every close out play. I am curious who will have the ball in their hand in the closing minutes of games and the last shot.

If there's one thing you may consider Joe Johnson the best at is his clutch performance late in games and his ability to hit game winners. Paul shows the same ability, as well as the competitive drive to want the ball. Now theres d-will, he's the ISO king of PGs and also demands the ball late in games. Why do you think they were a first round knockout. The fact is this team has a hard time co existing.

So you add PP and KG. Garnett and Lopez have very similar games, Lopez possibly being used solely in the post WHICH will in fact will hurt his game. And Paul will either be obsolete in this offense due too lack of touches in the offense or he will take Dwill and Johnson out of there game. There's a huge difference between adding 2-3 stars to a team because its easier too spread the ball and keep them in their respective game, but the Nets arguably have 5 stars(two aging) but they all still demand high touches and i doubt it works as the SUPER team they are being dubbed as.

I think you are wrong.  Obviously you haven't been watching KG and Pierce during their time with the C's.  I doubt either one of them will have a hard time adapting.  Pierce has always been superber at seeing the game, and adding to it what is needed.  KG is willing to defer as well.

I think you are wildly exaggerating any issues that may exist.

^This. If PP could relinquish some of the team to KG when he arrived, when it was clearly his team, then I definitely don't see him having a problem in BKN. They'll put their stamp on the team, but not at the expense of the team.

Listen i totally agree with your assessments of KG and PP and YES it worked when it was them and Rondo and/or Ray. But were talking putting 5 stars together, Not 2 Not 3 but 5. I just have a hard time seeing a team that already under achieved greatly and had serious problems ci existing as a team getting better with 2 players who possess the same attributes as players they already possess.

[bfrombleacher]

What's bad is when players start colluding and scheming before their contract is even up.

Melo forcing his way out of Denver. CP3 trying to collude with Dwight. That's bad.

Glad the Rockets got Dwight though. They deserve it.

[TripleOT]

A couple of years ago, Mike bibby took a buyout and walked away from the final year of his deal at $6+m to take an in season buyout from the Wizards and join the Heat.  The next year, he barely scrounged up a vetmin deal, costing himself $5m. 

No one raised any concerns.  A player gave up guaranteed money to play for a title, just like AK.  He was foolish to opt out of $10m, but couldn't get a big deal anywhere and settled for the mMLE and about $10m guaranteed over three years. 

The issue is that AK was as recently as this last week was demanding more than the MLE and turning teams down.

Very different situation that Bibby and other players. I don't blame people for speculating.

What actual MLE offer did AK turn down?  Link?

[chambers]

Watching Celtics basketball I've seen PP ISO nearly every close out play. I am curious who will have the ball in their hand in the closing minutes of games and the last shot.

If there's one thing you may consider Joe Johnson the best at is his clutch performance late in games and his ability to hit game winners. Paul shows the same ability, as well as the competitive drive to want the ball. Now theres d-will, he's the ISO king of PGs and also demands the ball late in games. Why do you think they were a first round knockout. The fact is this team has a hard time co existing.

So you add PP and KG. Garnett and Lopez have very similar games, Lopez possibly being used solely in the post WHICH will in fact will hurt his game. And Paul will either be obsolete in this offense due too lack of touches in the offense or he will take Dwill and Johnson out of there game. There's a huge difference between adding 2-3 stars to a team because its easier too spread the ball and keep them in their respective game, but the Nets arguably have 5 stars(two aging) but they all still demand high touches and i doubt it works as the SUPER team they are being dubbed as.

The touches might affect their scoring but KGs jumpshot and Pierces shooting will spread the floor for them immensely.
I do agree they have a few similar players but their size and offensive power is going to be very hard for opposing teams to stop come the playoffs.
I mean pretty much everyone on their playoff roster can create for themselves and pass at an all star level. Think of their playoff 8-9 man rotation...
Deron
Johnson
Pierce
KG
Lopez

With

Kirilenko
Terry
Reggie Evans
Blatche

Every starter can create their own shot from almost anywhere. They're HUGE, everyone is tall for their spot except Terry and Evans who are specialist role players.
Opposing teams guarding them are gonna have a very hard time.
Will be interesting to see if they mesh but I feel KG will change them defensively and Pierce, Johnson, Deron, kirilenko and Terry as the wings are by far the best 5 man wing rotation in the NBA. KG, Lopez, Blatche and Evans is up there with big man rotations too. Can't really see a weakness except defending the fast break and maybe the 3 point shot. Gonna be hard for teams to guard them with 2 skilled bigs and all those shooters/penetrators for 48 mins.
Heat and thunder will have to run them off their legs and swing the ball like crazy.