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There's something more important than getting a championship. Pierce has stood for the culture of this team for more than a decade. His value is much more than the contribution on the court, and his current contract was actually a bargain for the Celtics at the time Pierce agreed the deal.

If Danny dumps Pierce just to lower the payroll for one single season, I simply won't follow the Celtics next season, and we know they're not going to contend anyway. Moreover, I bet somewhere a bald dude will laugh at us if it really happens.

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that's sad bro. But the name in front of the jersey is still more important than the name at the back of the jersey.

Lets just put our trust in Danny and we hope he cooks for us a nifty season and who knows maybe even banner 18 is due this upcoming season;

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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2013, 03:09:14 AM »

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There's something more important than getting a championship. Pierce has stood for the culture of this team for more than a decade. His value is much more than the contribution on the court, and his current contract was actually a bargain for the Celtics at the time Pierce agreed the deal.

If Danny dumps Pierce just to lower the payroll for one single season, I simply won't follow the Celtics next season, and we know they're not going to contend anyway. Moreover, I bet somewhere a bald dude will laugh at us if it really happens.

Actually pierce voiced that he wanted out of Boston and was also a terd for quite a bit of his celtics tenure. He wouldn't be here and he's only here because Danny got him some help in KG and Ray. So Pierce actually owes a lot to Ainge.
You're missing the point as to why pierce would be waived. He'd never be dumped just for payroll purposes for the Celtics. He's worth more to the organization just selling jerseys and tickets than to just dump him...we'd still be over the cap. He'd be dumped so another team can use his contract as a way to lower their payroll thus giving us assets, or he'd be dumped to a contender so they can use his veteran leadership to actually win a championship, again to give us assets.
Pierce will always be a Celtic. If we can get something that gets us closer to the next championship for his whale of a deal then that's great, the name on the front of the jersey is more important than the name on the back, and Pierce knows this and understands that whatever happens, happens.
The day the Lakers overtake us is a sad day. If he were to get rid of Pierce, no matter what route he takes, Pierce will be picked up by a contender one way or the other.


Ps. There's nothing that's more important than winning a championship


Danny Ainge tried to get CP3 & David West to add to KG, Pierce and Ray Allen. Just Imagine if the stars had aligned...

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There's something more important than getting a championship. Pierce has stood for the culture of this team for more than a decade. His value is much more than the contribution on the court, and his current contract was actually a bargain for the Celtics at the time Pierce agreed the deal.

If Danny dumps Pierce just to lower the payroll for one single season, I simply won't follow the Celtics next season, and we know they're not going to contend anyway. Moreover, I bet somewhere a bald dude will laugh at us if it really happens.

Actually pierce voiced that he wanted out of Boston and was also a terd for quite a bit of his celtics tenure. He wouldn't be here and he's only here because Danny got him some help in KG and Ray. So Pierce actually owes a lot to Ainge.
You're missing the point as to why pierce would be waived. He'd never be dumped just for payroll purposes for the Celtics. He's worth more to the organization just selling jerseys and tickets than to just dump him...we'd still be over the cap. He'd be dumped so another team can use his contract as a way to lower their payroll thus giving us assets, or he'd be dumped to a contender so they can use his veteran leadership to actually win a championship, again to give us assets.
Pierce will always be a Celtic. If we can get something that gets us closer to the next championship for his whale of a deal then that's great, the name on the front of the jersey is more important than the name on the back, and Pierce knows this and understands that whatever happens, happens.
The day the Lakers overtake us is a sad day. If he were to get rid of Pierce, no matter what route he takes, Pierce will be picked up by a contender one way or the other.


Ps. There's nothing that's more important than winning a championship

There are many more things more important than winning a championship. Don't be silly.


Personally, I'd let Pierce play out the remainder of his contract in Boston if he wanted to. That opinion is colored, of course, by the fact that A) I enjoy his presence on the laundry that I root for, and B)That the Lakers are about as likely to win a title in the next two  years as we are.
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There's something more important than getting a championship. Pierce has stood for the culture of this team for more than a decade. His value is much more than the contribution on the court, and his current contract was actually a bargain for the Celtics at the time Pierce agreed the deal.

If Danny dumps Pierce just to lower the payroll for one single season, I simply won't follow the Celtics next season, and we know they're not going to contend anyway. Moreover, I bet somewhere a bald dude will laugh at us if it really happens.

Actually pierce voiced that he wanted out of Boston and was also a terd for quite a bit of his celtics tenure. He wouldn't be here and he's only here because Danny got him some help in KG and Ray. So Pierce actually owes a lot to Ainge.
You're missing the point as to why pierce would be waived. He'd never be dumped just for payroll purposes for the Celtics. He's worth more to the organization just selling jerseys and tickets than to just dump him...we'd still be over the cap. He'd be dumped so another team can use his contract as a way to lower their payroll thus giving us assets, or he'd be dumped to a contender so they can use his veteran leadership to actually win a championship, again to give us assets.
Pierce will always be a Celtic. If we can get something that gets us closer to the next championship for his whale of a deal then that's great, the name on the front of the jersey is more important than the name on the back, and Pierce knows this and understands that whatever happens, happens.
The day the Lakers overtake us is a sad day. If he were to get rid of Pierce, no matter what route he takes, Pierce will be picked up by a contender one way or the other.


Ps. There's nothing that's more important than winning a championship

Sometimes, though, the players you win a Championship with are more important than the championship.

Winning another title with Pierce and KG on this roster would be way more special than if we won another title with player X and Y.

However unlikely our shots at winning a title are with Pierce and Garnett in their final years - we are just as unlikely to win a title without them on our team. So I'd much rather watch Pierce retire a Celtic while trying to win another title for our franchise and being competitive than watching our team suck.

Where I disagree with the OP is that no matter how much your team blows (Celtics in 2007,) they are your team and you follow them and look for things to be excited for.

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« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2013, 05:56:42 AM »

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There's something more important than getting a championship. Pierce has stood for the culture of this team for more than a decade. His value is much more than the contribution on the court, and his current contract was actually a bargain for the Celtics at the time Pierce agreed the deal.

If Danny dumps Pierce just to lower the payroll for one single season, I simply won't follow the Celtics next season, and we know they're not going to contend anyway. Moreover, I bet somewhere a bald dude will laugh at us if it really happens.

Actually pierce voiced that he wanted out of Boston and was also a terd for quite a bit of his celtics tenure. He wouldn't be here and he's only here because Danny got him some help in KG and Ray. So Pierce actually owes a lot to Ainge.
You're missing the point as to why pierce would be waived. He'd never be dumped just for payroll purposes for the Celtics. He's worth more to the organization just selling jerseys and tickets than to just dump him...we'd still be over the cap. He'd be dumped so another team can use his contract as a way to lower their payroll thus giving us assets, or he'd be dumped to a contender so they can use his veteran leadership to actually win a championship, again to give us assets.
Pierce will always be a Celtic. If we can get something that gets us closer to the next championship for his whale of a deal then that's great, the name on the front of the jersey is more important than the name on the back, and Pierce knows this and understands that whatever happens, happens.
The day the Lakers overtake us is a sad day. If he were to get rid of Pierce, no matter what route he takes, Pierce will be picked up by a contender one way or the other.


Ps. There's nothing that's more important than winning a championship

Sometimes, though, the players you win a Championship with are more important than the championship.

Winning another title with Pierce and KG on this roster would be way more special than if we won another title with player X and Y.


However unlikely our shots at winning a title are with Pierce and Garnett in their final years - we are just as unlikely to win a title without them on our team. So I'd much rather watch Pierce retire a Celtic while trying to win another title for our franchise and being competitive than watching our team suck.

Where I disagree with the OP is that no matter how much your team blows (Celtics in 2007,) they are your team and you follow them and look for things to be excited for.


To me that's bogus, any team you win a championship is special. If we managed to win with Carlos Boozer it would be special.
Furthermore this group is cooked. Hanging on and giving it one more run gives us zero chance of winning a title. We'd be hoping that injuries happen to multiple stars again and even then we'd be a long shot.

It's all opinion of course, but each year we delay the rebuild we are a year further away from a championship.

And if Dwight Howard signs with the Lakers again, then they are in a far better position to win a title than we are- we'll just be giving them even more of a head start.

There is nothing more important than having another banner hanging in the rafters. Nothing.
Danny Ainge tried to get CP3 & David West to add to KG, Pierce and Ray Allen. Just Imagine if the stars had aligned...

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I'm also hoping for KG and PP to retire as Celtics.

If they do, then Danny might be able to point to that when trying to recruit stars in future; that Boston has a history of treating its franchise cornerstones respectfully at the end of their careers. Bird and McHae are other examples. Regardless of that, they've earned the right to go out on their terms plus they're both in Wyc's good books.

KG should also be given some sort of assistant coaching position when his playing days are done, even if it's a token one. Having him just ride off into the sunset would badly affect the ongoing blue collar work ethic of the club.

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There's something more important than getting a championship. Pierce has stood for the culture of this team for more than a decade. His value is much more than the contribution on the court, and his current contract was actually a bargain for the Celtics at the time Pierce agreed the deal.

If Danny dumps Pierce just to lower the payroll for one single season, I simply won't follow the Celtics next season, and we know they're not going to contend anyway. Moreover, I bet somewhere a bald dude will laugh at us if it really happens.

I am sure this will sway Danny to keep him.   PP is now taking his house off the market since Danny will call him after reading this thread.  We all know Celtic Management listens to Celtic Blog.   

No one wants to see these guys leave.   However, many here recall the bad teams of the 90s and would like to see us get something for them.  A rebuild is bad almost as bad as letting PP go, trust me.

Do you think we have a real chance next year?  I don't because we have won less each year since 09 or so it seems to me.   

I think if he is dealt they will have him resign for one day and retire as a Celtic.

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I'm also hoping for KG and PP to retire as Celtics.

If they do, then Danny might be able to point to that when trying to recruit stars in future; that Boston has a history of treating its franchise cornerstones respectfully at the end of their careers. Bird and McHae are other examples. Regardless of that, they've earned the right to go out on their terms plus they're both in Wyc's good books.

KG should also be given some sort of assistant coaching position when his playing days are done, even if it's a token one. Having him just ride off into the sunset would badly affect the ongoing blue collar work ethic of the club.


False on both counts. First Kg and Paul retiring as celtics has zero effect on what free agents decide to come here. You think Lebron would say oh look Kg and Pierce retired as a celtics, that organization is so great in treating their players right by letting the players finish they careers with the team. with so let me go join them. I'm sorry but it doesn't work that way. Even the Great Larry Bird didn't retire with the Celtics. I was surprised when I found that out years ago.

Second the Celtics doesn't owe Kg any coaching position and it doesn't affect negatively on them. Maybe Kg doesn't want anything to do with coaching at all when he retires and just wants to spend time with those close to him.

First of all Larry only ever played for the Celtics. He may have coached elsewhere but he retired as a player in Boston. That's what I'm talking about. Not sure what you mean.

Second of all, how do you know what effect their retirement in Boston may or may not have on other free agents? I said it was a possibility. I also said 'franchise cornerstones' not 'players'. There's a big difference.

I guess I'm just not the type of person who would just put old sick grandma in a retirement home to rot away after she has dedicated her best years to supporting the family, while others appear happy to do so because the 'grass is greener' elsewhere. Loyalty is Royalty.

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Like I said, KG and PP are both in Wyc's good books...

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“I want to retire Paul’s number, but I don’t want to do it any time soon because I want him to keep playing for us, to be honest. I want KG back. I want Doc back. I’d love to have Rondo back. I just want to get them more help, that’s my going-in assumption.”

Source: http://fansided.com/2013/05/24/boston-celtics-co-owner-wants-paul-pierce-kevin-garnett-back-next-season/

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I don't agree with this position that only the name on the front of the jersey matters. If you're a player I hate and you come to the Celtics I'm still going to hate you. And if the Celtics built a team of players I couldn't stand then I'd have to walk away from the team until those players got replaced.I'd still say I was a Celtics fan but Id point out "not right now."



And another thing that's kind of bugged me as of late. When Ray Allen took his talents to south beach this place exploded with people call him a trader and saying he had no loyalty. But now it seems that many people want Paul to get dumped.
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