Should the Pacers trade Granger?

[D.o.s.]

Pierce, Melo, various BS, + 2014 1st for Granger and Stephenson?

Assuming KG is gone from the Celtics too, it depends on how bad Indiana thinks Boston is going to be.

That said, I think they need a wing who is NBA ready if they get rid of Granger and Stephenson.

[CelticConcourse]

they should flip him for a point guard that they desperately need.

You took the words right out of me.

George Hill is a good PG, but if they want to get past in the East, they need a better PG than Hill IMO.

If I'm Indy, I would trade Granger to shed salary, get future picks and some guys who's not under a ton of money contract wise. Maybe a backup for Paul George or a SG along with the pick/s. I would then offer a lot of money (i mean a lot) to acquire Jarret Jack. That would be an easy sell for him. He will be generously get paid to be a part of a contender, then his addition would make Indy even more of a contender.

Indiana doesn't need a chucker!

[Yoki_IsTheName]

they should flip him for a point guard that they desperately need.

You took the words right out of me.

George Hill is a good PG, but if they want to get past in the East, they need a better PG than Hill IMO.

If I'm Indy, I would trade Granger to shed salary, get future picks and some guys who's not under a ton of money contract wise. Maybe a backup for Paul George or a SG along with the pick/s. I would then offer a lot of money (i mean a lot) to acquire Jarret Jack. That would be an easy sell for him. He will be generously get paid to be a part of a contender, then his addition would make Indy even more of a contender.

Indiana doesn't need a chucker!

Are you sure?

Last time I check Paul George, while an All-Star is still not known as a go to scorer. Jack, chucker and all, can create shots for his own, plays decent defense and find and create for others.

[hpantazo]

they should flip him for a point guard that they desperately need.

You took the words right out of me.

George Hill is a good PG, but if they want to get past in the East, they need a better PG than Hill IMO.

If I'm Indy, I would trade Granger to shed salary, get future picks and some guys who's not under a ton of money contract wise. Maybe a backup for Paul George or a SG along with the pick/s. I would then offer a lot of money (i mean a lot) to acquire Jarret Jack. That would be an easy sell for him. He will be generously get paid to be a part of a contender, then his addition would make Indy even more of a contender.

Indiana doesn't need a chucker!

Are you sure?

Last time I check Paul George, while an All-Star is still not known as a go to scorer. Jack, chucker and all, can create shots for his own, plays decent defense and find and create for others.

Yea, Jack would be a perfect addition to the Pacers. He's exactly what they need. Hits big shots, provides scoring and steady ball handling. They have no one on the roster right now that can do those things for them.

[CelticConcourse]

they should flip him for a point guard that they desperately need.

You took the words right out of me.

George Hill is a good PG, but if they want to get past in the East, they need a better PG than Hill IMO.

If I'm Indy, I would trade Granger to shed salary, get future picks and some guys who's not under a ton of money contract wise. Maybe a backup for Paul George or a SG along with the pick/s. I would then offer a lot of money (i mean a lot) to acquire Jarret Jack. That would be an easy sell for him. He will be generously get paid to be a part of a contender, then his addition would make Indy even more of a contender.

Indiana doesn't need a chucker!

Are you sure?

Last time I check Paul George, while an All-Star is still not known as a go to scorer. Jack, chucker and all, can create shots for his own, plays decent defense and find and create for others.

Yea, Jack would be a perfect addition to the Pacers. He's exactly what they need. Hits big shots, provides scoring and steady ball handling. They have no one on the roster right now that can do those things for them.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHmRykTdh8E

[hpantazo]

they should flip him for a point guard that they desperately need.

You took the words right out of me.

George Hill is a good PG, but if they want to get past in the East, they need a better PG than Hill IMO.

If I'm Indy, I would trade Granger to shed salary, get future picks and some guys who's not under a ton of money contract wise. Maybe a backup for Paul George or a SG along with the pick/s. I would then offer a lot of money (i mean a lot) to acquire Jarret Jack. That would be an easy sell for him. He will be generously get paid to be a part of a contender, then his addition would make Indy even more of a contender.

Indiana doesn't need a chucker!

Are you sure?

Last time I check Paul George, while an All-Star is still not known as a go to scorer. Jack, chucker and all, can create shots for his own, plays decent defense and find and create for others.

Yea, Jack would be a perfect addition to the Pacers. He's exactly what they need. Hits big shots, provides scoring and steady ball handling. They have no one on the roster right now that can do those things for them.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHmRykTdh8E

George hit one desperation off balance three off a broken play. Jack has a entire highlight reel of big shots. Huge difference. Btw, where was Paul George in game 3?

Paul George Game 3: 3 for 10, 5 turnovers.

He's as dependable as Jeff Green imo.

[CelticsFan9]

they should flip him for a point guard that they desperately need.

You took the words right out of me.

George Hill is a good PG, but if they want to get past in the East, they need a better PG than Hill IMO.

If I'm Indy, I would trade Granger to shed salary, get future picks and some guys who's not under a ton of money contract wise. Maybe a backup for Paul George or a SG along with the pick/s. I would then offer a lot of money (i mean a lot) to acquire Jarret Jack. That would be an easy sell for him. He will be generously get paid to be a part of a contender, then his addition would make Indy even more of a contender.

Indiana doesn't need a chucker!

Are you sure?

Last time I check Paul George, while an All-Star is still not known as a go to scorer. Jack, chucker and all, can create shots for his own, plays decent defense and find and create for others.

Yea, Jack would be a perfect addition to the Pacers. He's exactly what they need. Hits big shots, provides scoring and steady ball handling. They have no one on the roster right now that can do those things for them.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHmRykTdh8E

George hit one desperation off balance three off a broken play. Jack has a entire highlight reel of big shots. Huge difference. Btw, where was Paul George in game 3?

Paul George Game 3: 3 for 10, 5 turnovers.

He's as dependable as Jeff Green imo.

I wouldn't go that far, I think he's just suffering from stage fright at the worst possible time.  The guy is a superstar, unlike Green.

[hpantazo]

they should flip him for a point guard that they desperately need.

You took the words right out of me.

George Hill is a good PG, but if they want to get past in the East, they need a better PG than Hill IMO.

If I'm Indy, I would trade Granger to shed salary, get future picks and some guys who's not under a ton of money contract wise. Maybe a backup for Paul George or a SG along with the pick/s. I would then offer a lot of money (i mean a lot) to acquire Jarret Jack. That would be an easy sell for him. He will be generously get paid to be a part of a contender, then his addition would make Indy even more of a contender.

Indiana doesn't need a chucker!

Are you sure?

Last time I check Paul George, while an All-Star is still not known as a go to scorer. Jack, chucker and all, can create shots for his own, plays decent defense and find and create for others.

Yea, Jack would be a perfect addition to the Pacers. He's exactly what they need. Hits big shots, provides scoring and steady ball handling. They have no one on the roster right now that can do those things for them.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHmRykTdh8E

George hit one desperation off balance three off a broken play. Jack has a entire highlight reel of big shots. Huge difference. Btw, where was Paul George in game 3?

Paul George Game 3: 3 for 10, 5 turnovers.

He's as dependable as Jeff Green imo.

I wouldn't go that far, I think he's just suffering from stage fright at the worst possible time.  The guy is a superstar, unlike Green.

I wouldn't call him a superstar yet. He hasn't earned it. Hibbert and West have been huge for the Pacers in the playoffs, George imo has been underwhelming.

[CelticConcourse]

they should flip him for a point guard that they desperately need.

You took the words right out of me.

George Hill is a good PG, but if they want to get past in the East, they need a better PG than Hill IMO.

If I'm Indy, I would trade Granger to shed salary, get future picks and some guys who's not under a ton of money contract wise. Maybe a backup for Paul George or a SG along with the pick/s. I would then offer a lot of money (i mean a lot) to acquire Jarret Jack. That would be an easy sell for him. He will be generously get paid to be a part of a contender, then his addition would make Indy even more of a contender.

Indiana doesn't need a chucker!

Are you sure?

Last time I check Paul George, while an All-Star is still not known as a go to scorer. Jack, chucker and all, can create shots for his own, plays decent defense and find and create for others.

Yea, Jack would be a perfect addition to the Pacers. He's exactly what they need. Hits big shots, provides scoring and steady ball handling. They have no one on the roster right now that can do those things for them.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHmRykTdh8E

George hit one desperation off balance three off a broken play. Jack has a entire highlight reel of big shots. Huge difference. Btw, where was Paul George in game 3?

Paul George Game 3: 3 for 10, 5 turnovers.

He's as dependable as Jeff Green imo.

I wouldn't go that far, I think he's just suffering from stage fright at the worst possible time.  The guy is a superstar, unlike Green.

I wouldn't call him a superstar yet. He hasn't earned it. Hibbert and West have been huge for the Pacers in the playoffs, George imo has been underwhelming.

If you compare George and Green both at their best this season, they're just about equal. Even on the defensive end.

[hpantazo]

they should flip him for a point guard that they desperately need.

You took the words right out of me.

George Hill is a good PG, but if they want to get past in the East, they need a better PG than Hill IMO.

If I'm Indy, I would trade Granger to shed salary, get future picks and some guys who's not under a ton of money contract wise. Maybe a backup for Paul George or a SG along with the pick/s. I would then offer a lot of money (i mean a lot) to acquire Jarret Jack. That would be an easy sell for him. He will be generously get paid to be a part of a contender, then his addition would make Indy even more of a contender.

Indiana doesn't need a chucker!

Are you sure?

Last time I check Paul George, while an All-Star is still not known as a go to scorer. Jack, chucker and all, can create shots for his own, plays decent defense and find and create for others.

Yea, Jack would be a perfect addition to the Pacers. He's exactly what they need. Hits big shots, provides scoring and steady ball handling. They have no one on the roster right now that can do those things for them.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHmRykTdh8E

George hit one desperation off balance three off a broken play. Jack has a entire highlight reel of big shots. Huge difference. Btw, where was Paul George in game 3?

Paul George Game 3: 3 for 10, 5 turnovers.

He's as dependable as Jeff Green imo.

I wouldn't go that far, I think he's just suffering from stage fright at the worst possible time.  The guy is a superstar, unlike Green.

I wouldn't call him a superstar yet. He hasn't earned it. Hibbert and West have been huge for the Pacers in the playoffs, George imo has been underwhelming.

If you compare George and Green both at their best this season, they're just about equal. Even on the defensive end.

I agree. Since about the all-star beak this year, they have been about equal on both ends of the floor, and even in highlight reel plays.

[CelticsFan9]

they should flip him for a point guard that they desperately need.

You took the words right out of me.

George Hill is a good PG, but if they want to get past in the East, they need a better PG than Hill IMO.

If I'm Indy, I would trade Granger to shed salary, get future picks and some guys who's not under a ton of money contract wise. Maybe a backup for Paul George or a SG along with the pick/s. I would then offer a lot of money (i mean a lot) to acquire Jarret Jack. That would be an easy sell for him. He will be generously get paid to be a part of a contender, then his addition would make Indy even more of a contender.

Indiana doesn't need a chucker!

Are you sure?

Last time I check Paul George, while an All-Star is still not known as a go to scorer. Jack, chucker and all, can create shots for his own, plays decent defense and find and create for others.

Yea, Jack would be a perfect addition to the Pacers. He's exactly what they need. Hits big shots, provides scoring and steady ball handling. They have no one on the roster right now that can do those things for them.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHmRykTdh8E

George hit one desperation off balance three off a broken play. Jack has a entire highlight reel of big shots. Huge difference. Btw, where was Paul George in game 3?

Paul George Game 3: 3 for 10, 5 turnovers.

He's as dependable as Jeff Green imo.

I wouldn't go that far, I think he's just suffering from stage fright at the worst possible time.  The guy is a superstar, unlike Green.

I wouldn't call him a superstar yet. He hasn't earned it. Hibbert and West have been huge for the Pacers in the playoffs, George imo has been underwhelming.

I don't know, he's probably the next best (and versatile) perimeter defender after LeBron, and his offensive game is vastly improved from a year ago.

Would you at least call him a budding superstar?

[hpantazo]

they should flip him for a point guard that they desperately need.

You took the words right out of me.

George Hill is a good PG, but if they want to get past in the East, they need a better PG than Hill IMO.

If I'm Indy, I would trade Granger to shed salary, get future picks and some guys who's not under a ton of money contract wise. Maybe a backup for Paul George or a SG along with the pick/s. I would then offer a lot of money (i mean a lot) to acquire Jarret Jack. That would be an easy sell for him. He will be generously get paid to be a part of a contender, then his addition would make Indy even more of a contender.

Indiana doesn't need a chucker!

Are you sure?

Last time I check Paul George, while an All-Star is still not known as a go to scorer. Jack, chucker and all, can create shots for his own, plays decent defense and find and create for others.

Yea, Jack would be a perfect addition to the Pacers. He's exactly what they need. Hits big shots, provides scoring and steady ball handling. They have no one on the roster right now that can do those things for them.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHmRykTdh8E

George hit one desperation off balance three off a broken play. Jack has a entire highlight reel of big shots. Huge difference. Btw, where was Paul George in game 3?

Paul George Game 3: 3 for 10, 5 turnovers.

He's as dependable as Jeff Green imo.

I wouldn't go that far, I think he's just suffering from stage fright at the worst possible time.  The guy is a superstar, unlike Green.

I wouldn't call him a superstar yet. He hasn't earned it. Hibbert and West have been huge for the Pacers in the playoffs, George imo has been underwhelming.

I don't know, he's probably the next best (and versatile) perimeter defender after LeBron, and his offensive game is vastly improved from a year ago.

Would you at least call him a budding superstar?

Yea, budding superstar is valid 

[Yoki_IsTheName]

they should flip him for a point guard that they desperately need.

You took the words right out of me.

George Hill is a good PG, but if they want to get past in the East, they need a better PG than Hill IMO.

If I'm Indy, I would trade Granger to shed salary, get future picks and some guys who's not under a ton of money contract wise. Maybe a backup for Paul George or a SG along with the pick/s. I would then offer a lot of money (i mean a lot) to acquire Jarret Jack. That would be an easy sell for him. He will be generously get paid to be a part of a contender, then his addition would make Indy even more of a contender.

Indiana doesn't need a chucker!

Are you sure?

Last time I check Paul George, while an All-Star is still not known as a go to scorer. Jack, chucker and all, can create shots for his own, plays decent defense and find and create for others.

Yea, Jack would be a perfect addition to the Pacers. He's exactly what they need. Hits big shots, provides scoring and steady ball handling. They have no one on the roster right now that can do those things for them.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHmRykTdh8E

Are we talking clutch plays? Like, "we need a basket and we need someone to do it on his own" plays? In the Playoffs?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLSf3KXPouo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGd66fijJzg

And while we are at it, add the game tying jump shot he had on Game 4 to send that game in OT.
(i would post the vid, if I could find it)

[hpantazo]

And these are just recent playoff big shots. Notice how he created these shots himself, all under control, unlike George's broken play desperation heave. He has a ton from regular season games too.

Maybe one day George will get there, but he isn't there yet.

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If the Pacers want an affordable solid point guard that would really help their team though, they should go for Beno Udrih. Drive up the cost on Jack, see if anyone wants to offer good value on Granger, and then get Udrih on a reasonable price.