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Re: Supposed rumor between NO and BOS
« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2013, 12:46:32 PM »

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From Larry Coon's FAQ:
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•A team cannot reacquire a player they traded away during that season (a season being July 1 - June 30). If he is waived by his new team, then he cannot re-sign with his original team until the one-year anniversary of the trade, or until the July 1 following the end of his contract, whichever comes first. However, if a team trades a player's draft rights, they can reacquire the player during the same season.

that makes it sound like we could trade Pierce before June 30, someone could waive him, and we could re-sign him as a free agent after July 1st

am I reading that wrong?
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Re: Supposed rumor between NO and BOS
« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2013, 12:49:34 PM »

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From Larry Coon's FAQ:
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•A team cannot reacquire a player they traded away during that season (a season being July 1 - June 30). If he is waived by his new team, then he cannot re-sign with his original team until the one-year anniversary of the trade, or until the July 1 following the end of his contract, whichever comes first. However, if a team trades a player's draft rights, they can reacquire the player during the same season.

that makes it sound like we could trade Pierce before June 30, someone could waive him, and we could re-sign him as a free agent after July 1st

am I reading that wrong?

I think the highlighted parts say no.
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Re: Supposed rumor between NO and BOS
« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2013, 12:51:46 PM »

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"whichever comes first"

-> "July 1st following end of contract" sounds like the first time July 1st comes up after he's waived

am I wrong on this?
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Re: Supposed rumor between NO and BOS
« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2013, 12:53:06 PM »

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Can Eric Gordon stay healthy though? The guy has shown that he can be a bright star in the NBA. He plays really good defense too so he's not a big setback for Bradley defensively.

But boy did this kid is owed 13 million dollars. If he can't be on the floor, that's a lot of money to eat the cap.

I'd love him here if he stays healthy.
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Re: Supposed rumor between NO and BOS
« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2013, 12:53:38 PM »

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"whichever comes first"

-> "July 1st following end of contract" sounds like the first time July 1st comes up after he's waived

am I wrong on this?
It depends on whether or not his contract is considered ended June 30th 2013 if he's waived or its original end date, June 30th 2014.

He's still paid 5 million dollars for 2013-2014 even if waived. But that doesn't mean the contract hasn't "ended". Hmm I wonder if he defines end of a contract in his FAQ.

Re: Supposed rumor between NO and BOS
« Reply #35 on: May 21, 2013, 12:55:47 PM »

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If we're going to trade Pierce, the first place I hope Ainge looks is to teams in tonight's lottery that wind up outside the top 3.  If Cleveland gets the 4th or 5th pick or Sacramento gets the 7th or 8th, I think it would make a lot more sense to pick up a leader like Pierce than yet another young, untested draft pick.

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Re: Supposed rumor between NO and BOS
« Reply #36 on: May 21, 2013, 12:59:41 PM »

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If we're going to trade Pierce, the first place I hope Ainge looks is to teams in tonight's lottery that wind up outside the top 3.  If Cleveland gets the 4th or 5th pick or Sacramento gets the 7th or 8th, I think it would make a lot more sense to pick up a leader like Pierce than yet another young, untested draft pick.

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I doubt Ainge does that to Pierce, and if he did I think Pierce would heavily consider retiring or at least holding out.
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Re: Supposed rumor between NO and BOS
« Reply #37 on: May 21, 2013, 12:59:56 PM »

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From Larry Coon's FAQ:
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•A team cannot reacquire a player they traded away during that season (a season being July 1 - June 30). If he is waived by his new team, then he cannot re-sign with his original team until the one-year anniversary of the trade, or until the July 1 following the end of his contract, whichever comes first. However, if a team trades a player's draft rights, they can reacquire the player during the same season.

My understanding is that this is actually not applicable, because Pierce will never hit waivers. He won't be waived.

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Re: Supposed rumor between NO and BOS
« Reply #38 on: May 21, 2013, 01:01:46 PM »

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Pierce absolutely will hit waivers, waiving him is how you don't pay him his full salary.

Re: Supposed rumor between NO and BOS
« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2013, 01:02:44 PM »

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If we're going to trade Pierce, the first place I hope Ainge looks is to teams in tonight's lottery that wind up outside the top 3.  If Cleveland gets the 4th or 5th pick or Sacramento gets the 7th or 8th, I think it would make a lot more sense to pick up a leader like Pierce than yet another young, untested draft pick.

Mike
I doubt Ainge does that to Pierce, and if he did I think Pierce would heavily consider retiring or at least holding out.

if a lottery team took on pp , it would be to unload a big contract and get Bradley still on his rookie deal. Then they waive PP , saving 10 mil in salary.

c's get a pick in the 5-10 range this year.

something like

Bos: sends PP and Bradley, Fab Melo

Sac sends: Salmons, Hayes and lottery pick
« Last Edit: May 21, 2013, 01:08:05 PM by rondohondo »

Re: Supposed rumor between NO and BOS
« Reply #40 on: May 21, 2013, 01:05:47 PM »

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Not like Bradley's injury history is great.


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Re: Supposed rumor between NO and BOS
« Reply #42 on: May 21, 2013, 01:08:31 PM »

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Pierce absolutely will hit waivers, waiving him is how you don't pay him his full salary.

You're right and I'm wrong. I don't know where i got that thought in my little head.

If the Celtics waive Pierce before june 30th, they can resign him. If they trade him and he is waived before june 30th, they cannot.

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« Reply #43 on: May 21, 2013, 01:13:50 PM »

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Re: Supposed rumor between NO and BOS
« Reply #44 on: May 21, 2013, 01:14:26 PM »

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Pierce absolutely will hit waivers, waiving him is how you don't pay him his full salary.

You're right and I'm wrong. I don't know where i got that thought in my little head.

If the Celtics waive Pierce before june 30th, they can resign him. If they trade him and he is waived before june 30th, they cannot.

You sure about the second part? Link?


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