Rondo, Garnett, and Green in exchange for Westbrook and Lamb

[BballTim]

sigh. another awful trade idea. Rondo is better than Westbrook let alone sending Jeff Green and KG.

Rondo 3rd team All NBA, 1 year.  Westbrook 2nd team All NBA, 2 years.  Westbrook in the league a lot fewer seasons and will more than likely pick up another All NBA this year (they haven't been announced yet).  Rondo is a better passer than Westbrook, but that is about it, and when you don't have anyone of note to pass to, a pass first PG is worthless.  Boston needs someone like Westbrook.  A guy who can take over games with his scoring especially if that guy is going to be his teams best player.

  It's not just passing that Rondo does better, it's more like everything involved in running an offense. He might be "worthless" on a team full of players that can create their own shots when they need to, other than that most players will benefit from having easier shots to take. If you look at the top scorers in the league, Westbrook's at or near the bottom of the pack in terms of scoring efficiency. He's a volume shooter, it would be kind of like building your team around a (somewhat poor man's) Iverson.

I think Russ is easier to build around than Iverson.  He seems less selfish, is bigger, a better rebounder, and he is far more efficient than Iverson was.

And let's not kid ourselves, very few players in history have gone for 23+ points, 7+ assists, and 5+ rebounds in a season, like Westbrook just did.  Not to mention the nearly 2 steals a game.

Westbrook also has a much higher TS% than Rondo, so while his FG percentage is lower he is much better from the line and 3 PT range making up for the difference in the 2 PT5.

  Westbrook certainly isn't far more efficient than Iverson was, and the 28/4/5 he put up at the same age isn't exactly chopped liver compared to Westbrook. Westbrook's career averages are 20/5/7, Iverson's at the same age was 25/4/6 with a TS% almost identical to Westbrook's. And, let's not kid ourselves, it's very likely Russell's efficiency, not exactly great already, would take a hit if he didn't have Durant on the court with him most of the time. And it's true that Westbrook has a higher TS% than Rondo but he doesn't elevate the play of his teammates like Rondo does.

[syfy9]

sigh. another awful trade idea. Rondo is better than Westbrook let alone sending Jeff Green and KG.

Rondo 3rd team All NBA, 1 year.  Westbrook 2nd team All NBA, 2 years.  Westbrook in the league a lot fewer seasons and will more than likely pick up another All NBA this year (they haven't been announced yet).  Rondo is a better passer than Westbrook, but that is about it, and when you don't have anyone of note to pass to, a pass first PG is worthless.  Boston needs someone like Westbrook.  A guy who can take over games with his scoring especially if that guy is going to be his teams best player.

  It's not just passing that Rondo does better, it's more like everything involved in running an offense. He might be "worthless" on a team full of players that can create their own shots when they need to, other than that most players will benefit from having easier shots to take. If you look at the top scorers in the league, Westbrook's at or near the bottom of the pack in terms of scoring efficiency. He's a volume shooter, it would be kind of like building your team around a (somewhat poor man's) Iverson.

I think Russ is easier to build around than Iverson.  He seems less selfish, is bigger, a better rebounder, and he is far more efficient than Iverson was.

And let's not kid ourselves, very few players in history have gone for 23+ points, 7+ assists, and 5+ rebounds in a season, like Westbrook just did.  Not to mention the nearly 2 steals a game.

Westbrook also has a much higher TS% than Rondo, so while his FG percentage is lower he is much better from the line and 3 PT range making up for the difference in the 2 PT5.

  Westbrook certainly isn't far more efficient than Iverson was, and the 28/4/5 he put up at the same age isn't exactly chopped liver compared to Westbrook. Westbrook's career averages are 20/5/7, Iverson's at the same age was 25/4/6 with a TS% almost identical to Westbrook's. And, let's not kid ourselves, it's very likely Russell's efficiency, not exactly great already, would take a hit if he didn't have Durant on the court with him most of the time. And it's true that Westbrook has a higher TS% than Rondo but he doesn't elevate the play of his teammates like Rondo does.

What would Iverson's numbers be if he played with Durant?

[bobbyv]

sigh. another awful trade idea. Rondo is better than Westbrook let alone sending Jeff Green and KG.

Rondo 3rd team All NBA, 1 year.  Westbrook 2nd team All NBA, 2 years.  Westbrook in the league a lot fewer seasons and will more than likely pick up another All NBA this year (they haven't been announced yet).  Rondo is a better passer than Westbrook, but that is about it, and when you don't have anyone of note to pass to, a pass first PG is worthless.  Boston needs someone like Westbrook.  A guy who can take over games with his scoring especially if that guy is going to be his teams best player.

  It's not just passing that Rondo does better, it's more like everything involved in running an offense. He might be "worthless" on a team full of players that can create their own shots when they need to, other than that most players will benefit from having easier shots to take. If you look at the top scorers in the league, Westbrook's at or near the bottom of the pack in terms of scoring efficiency. He's a volume shooter, it would be kind of like building your team around a (somewhat poor man's) Iverson.

I think Russ is easier to build around than Iverson.  He seems less selfish, is bigger, a better rebounder, and he is far more efficient than Iverson was.

And let's not kid ourselves, very few players in history have gone for 23+ points, 7+ assists, and 5+ rebounds in a season, like Westbrook just did.  Not to mention the nearly 2 steals a game.

Westbrook also has a much higher TS% than Rondo, so while his FG percentage is lower he is much better from the line and 3 PT range making up for the difference in the 2 PT5.

Very few people have also averaged a triple double in the playoffs  I don't think they'd trade Westbrook for Rondo, and I prefer Rondo anyway. Higher BBIQ

[colincb]

Awful trade.

[LGC88]

Okc needs Westbrook back healfhy, to win titles. Why they would trade him, makes no sense.

[scaryjerry]

Okc needs Westbrook back healfhy, to win titles. Why they would trade him, makes no sense.

Lol, it's actually a bad trade for us. okc could win titles with this trade.

[Moranis]

sigh. another awful trade idea. Rondo is better than Westbrook let alone sending Jeff Green and KG.

Rondo 3rd team All NBA, 1 year.  Westbrook 2nd team All NBA, 2 years.  Westbrook in the league a lot fewer seasons and will more than likely pick up another All NBA this year (they haven't been announced yet).  Rondo is a better passer than Westbrook, but that is about it, and when you don't have anyone of note to pass to, a pass first PG is worthless.  Boston needs someone like Westbrook.  A guy who can take over games with his scoring especially if that guy is going to be his teams best player.

  It's not just passing that Rondo does better, it's more like everything involved in running an offense. He might be "worthless" on a team full of players that can create their own shots when they need to, other than that most players will benefit from having easier shots to take. If you look at the top scorers in the league, Westbrook's at or near the bottom of the pack in terms of scoring efficiency. He's a volume shooter, it would be kind of like building your team around a (somewhat poor man's) Iverson.

I think Russ is easier to build around than Iverson.  He seems less selfish, is bigger, a better rebounder, and he is far more efficient than Iverson was.

And let's not kid ourselves, very few players in history have gone for 23+ points, 7+ assists, and 5+ rebounds in a season, like Westbrook just did.  Not to mention the nearly 2 steals a game.

Westbrook also has a much higher TS% than Rondo, so while his FG percentage is lower he is much better from the line and 3 PT range making up for the difference in the 2 PT5.

  Westbrook certainly isn't far more efficient than Iverson was, and the 28/4/5 he put up at the same age isn't exactly chopped liver compared to Westbrook. Westbrook's career averages are 20/5/7, Iverson's at the same age was 25/4/6 with a TS% almost identical to Westbrook's. And, let's not kid ourselves, it's very likely Russell's efficiency, not exactly great already, would take a hit if he didn't have Durant on the court with him most of the time. And it's true that Westbrook has a higher TS% than Rondo but he doesn't elevate the play of his teammates like Rondo does.

Iverson's first five years he only had a TS% above 51.8% once and that was his second year when he went for 53.5%.  Westbrook the last three years has been 53.2, 53.8, and 53.8.  He has been significantly more efficient than Iverson was.  The more Iverson was scoring the more inefficient he was, which is the opposite of Westbrook.  The more Westbrook is scoring the more efficient he is getting.  Westbrook is a much better rebounder and passer as well, and doesn't gamble nearly as much defensively. 

And with all that said, Iverson led a team of defensive role players to the NBA finals.  You could do a lot worse than building around a bigger more efficient version of Iverson. 

[BballTim]

sigh. another awful trade idea. Rondo is better than Westbrook let alone sending Jeff Green and KG.

Rondo 3rd team All NBA, 1 year.  Westbrook 2nd team All NBA, 2 years.  Westbrook in the league a lot fewer seasons and will more than likely pick up another All NBA this year (they haven't been announced yet).  Rondo is a better passer than Westbrook, but that is about it, and when you don't have anyone of note to pass to, a pass first PG is worthless.  Boston needs someone like Westbrook.  A guy who can take over games with his scoring especially if that guy is going to be his teams best player.

  It's not just passing that Rondo does better, it's more like everything involved in running an offense. He might be "worthless" on a team full of players that can create their own shots when they need to, other than that most players will benefit from having easier shots to take. If you look at the top scorers in the league, Westbrook's at or near the bottom of the pack in terms of scoring efficiency. He's a volume shooter, it would be kind of like building your team around a (somewhat poor man's) Iverson.

I think Russ is easier to build around than Iverson.  He seems less selfish, is bigger, a better rebounder, and he is far more efficient than Iverson was.

And let's not kid ourselves, very few players in history have gone for 23+ points, 7+ assists, and 5+ rebounds in a season, like Westbrook just did.  Not to mention the nearly 2 steals a game.

Westbrook also has a much higher TS% than Rondo, so while his FG percentage is lower he is much better from the line and 3 PT range making up for the difference in the 2 PT5.

  Westbrook certainly isn't far more efficient than Iverson was, and the 28/4/5 he put up at the same age isn't exactly chopped liver compared to Westbrook. Westbrook's career averages are 20/5/7, Iverson's at the same age was 25/4/6 with a TS% almost identical to Westbrook's. And, let's not kid ourselves, it's very likely Russell's efficiency, not exactly great already, would take a hit if he didn't have Durant on the court with him most of the time. And it's true that Westbrook has a higher TS% than Rondo but he doesn't elevate the play of his teammates like Rondo does.

Iverson's first five years he only had a TS% above 51.8% once and that was his second year when he went for 53.5%.  Westbrook the last three years has been 53.2, 53.8, and 53.8.  He has been significantly more efficient than Iverson was.  The more Iverson was scoring the more inefficient he was, which is the opposite of Westbrook.  The more Westbrook is scoring the more efficient he is getting.  Westbrook is a much better rebounder and passer as well, and doesn't gamble nearly as much defensively. 

And with all that said, Iverson led a team of defensive role players to the NBA finals.  You could do a lot worse than building around a bigger more efficient version of Iverson.

  Westbrook has a career TS% of .520. At the same age AI had a career TS% of .512. Clearly Westbrook isn't a "far more efficient" a scorer than AI. If you take Durant off of the Thunder then Westbrook probably loses his assist advantage over AI, so "better passer" is debatable. He's definitely a better rebounder though. But Iverson, while more selfish than Westbrook, was definitely a better scorer.

  And with all that said AI took a team built around him to the nba finals, but he only did so once.