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Re: The NBA's top 10 PG's according to SI (Rondo is number 6)
« Reply #45 on: March 04, 2013, 02:23:00 PM »

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i dont think tony parker is better than rondo.


Why?



21 points

7.6 assists

.533 FG %

.379 3 FG %

.82 FT % getting to the line almost 5 times a game. 


And leads the team with the best record in the NBA.




What is there not to like?

  That's one year though, I don't think he's really been top 5 or so in any of the previous 3-4 years.


He was part of the MVP conversation last year.



He has won a Final MVP.



So I would say he has had a strong career that can more then match up to Rondo's

Re: The NBA's top 10 PG's according to SI (Rondo is number 6)
« Reply #46 on: March 04, 2013, 02:28:08 PM »

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The pundits will never have him in the top 3 because he doesnt score as much as other guards who are really 2 guards playing the point. In true fashion of a PG Rondo is top 3  in the league.

This is my argument as well. Are Westbrook and maybe Irving more talented than Rondo? Sure. Is Rondo a better point guard? absolutely.

Top PGs are scorers.

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Re: The NBA's top 10 PG's according to SI (Rondo is number 6)
« Reply #47 on: March 04, 2013, 02:29:20 PM »

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i dont think tony parker is better than rondo.


Why?



21 points

7.6 assists

.533 FG %

.379 3 FG %

.82 FT % getting to the line almost 5 times a game. 


And leads the team with the best record in the NBA.




What is there not to like?

  That's one year though, I don't think he's really been top 5 or so in any of the previous 3-4 years.


He was part of the MVP conversation last year.



He has won a Final MVP.



So I would say he has had a strong career that can more then match up to Rondo's

Agreed.

If Rondo played All-NBA defense all the time, I would rank him closer to Parker. But he doesn't, at least any more.

Parker is a stellar offensive player and is so much more consistent.

I think he flies under the radar in terms of numbers because he only plays 31-33 mpg.

Per-36 he averages 23/8 this year, with TS% of 60%.

Right now in a 7-game series I think you have to take Parker over anyone except Paul.

Re: The NBA's top 10 PG's according to SI (Rondo is number 6)
« Reply #48 on: March 04, 2013, 02:29:49 PM »

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i dont think tony parker is better than rondo.


Why?



21 points

7.6 assists

.533 FG %

.379 3 FG %

.82 FT % getting to the line almost 5 times a game. 


And leads the team with the best record in the NBA.




What is there not to like?

  That's one year though, I don't think he's really been top 5 or so in any of the previous 3-4 years.


He was part of the MVP conversation last year.



He has won a Final MVP.



So I would say he has had a strong career that can more then match up to Rondo's

  Give Rondo another 5 or so years and you probably won't be able to make that claim.

Re: The NBA's top 10 PG's according to SI (Rondo is number 6)
« Reply #49 on: March 04, 2013, 02:33:41 PM »

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i dont think tony parker is better than rondo.


Why?



21 points

7.6 assists

.533 FG %

.379 3 FG %

.82 FT % getting to the line almost 5 times a game. 


And leads the team with the best record in the NBA.




What is there not to like?

  That's one year though, I don't think he's really been top 5 or so in any of the previous 3-4 years.
Tony Parker finished 5th in MVP voting last year.  He actually had more first place votes than Kobe did who finished 4th.  Chris Paul was third, with Durant second, and of course James winning.

In 2010-11, Parker finished 12th in MVP voting.  Aside from last years 5th place, he has two other years where he finished in the top ten: in 08-09 he was 8th and in 05-06 he was 9th.  He also finished 15th in 06-07. 

That is the entire league not just PG's.  I think you haven't been paying attention to Mr. Parker.
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Re: The NBA's top 10 PG's according to SI (Rondo is number 6)
« Reply #50 on: March 04, 2013, 02:34:03 PM »

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i dont think tony parker is better than rondo.


Why?



21 points

7.6 assists

.533 FG %

.379 3 FG %

.82 FT % getting to the line almost 5 times a game. 


And leads the team with the best record in the NBA.




What is there not to like?

  That's one year though, I don't think he's really been top 5 or so in any of the previous 3-4 years.

Bold statement. What 5 would you take above him in any one of those years (much less all of 'em)?

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Re: The NBA's top 10 PG's according to SI (Rondo is number 6)
« Reply #51 on: March 04, 2013, 02:47:54 PM »

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i dont think tony parker is better than rondo.


Why?



21 points

7.6 assists

.533 FG %

.379 3 FG %

.82 FT % getting to the line almost 5 times a game. 


And leads the team with the best record in the NBA.




What is there not to like?

  That's one year though, I don't think he's really been top 5 or so in any of the previous 3-4 years.

I know you like Rondo, but Parker has been an MVP candidate the past two years, and plays consistently great for the past 4 or 5.
 
This year, Parker was far better than Rondo (before he went down).

Re: The NBA's top 10 PG's according to SI (Rondo is number 6)
« Reply #52 on: March 04, 2013, 02:55:03 PM »

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i dont think tony parker is better than rondo.


Why?



21 points

7.6 assists

.533 FG %

.379 3 FG %

.82 FT % getting to the line almost 5 times a game. 


And leads the team with the best record in the NBA.




What is there not to like?

  That's one year though, I don't think he's really been top 5 or so in any of the previous 3-4 years.

Bold statement. What 5 would you take above him in any one of those years (much less all of 'em)?

  Paul, Deron, Rose, Rondo, Nash, possibly even Westbrook.

Re: The NBA's top 10 PG's according to SI (Rondo is number 6)
« Reply #53 on: March 04, 2013, 02:57:10 PM »

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i dont think tony parker is better than rondo.


Why?



21 points

7.6 assists

.533 FG %

.379 3 FG %

.82 FT % getting to the line almost 5 times a game. 


And leads the team with the best record in the NBA.




What is there not to like?

  That's one year though, I don't think he's really been top 5 or so in any of the previous 3-4 years.

I know you like Rondo, but Parker has been an MVP candidate the past two years, and plays consistently great for the past 4 or 5.
 
This year, Parker was far better than Rondo (before he went down).

  I thought that Parker was somewhat overrated last year and far from great the previous two.

Re: The NBA's top 10 PG's according to SI (Rondo is number 6)
« Reply #54 on: March 04, 2013, 03:02:21 PM »

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i dont think tony parker is better than rondo.


Why?



21 points

7.6 assists

.533 FG %

.379 3 FG %

.82 FT % getting to the line almost 5 times a game. 


And leads the team with the best record in the NBA.




What is there not to like?

  That's one year though, I don't think he's really been top 5 or so in any of the previous 3-4 years.
Tony Parker finished 5th in MVP voting last year.  He actually had more first place votes than Kobe did who finished 4th.  Chris Paul was third, with Durant second, and of course James winning.

In 2010-11, Parker finished 12th in MVP voting.  Aside from last years 5th place, he has two other years where he finished in the top ten: in 08-09 he was 8th and in 05-06 he was 9th.  He also finished 15th in 06-07. 

That is the entire league not just PG's.  I think you haven't been paying attention to Mr. Parker.

   I probably should have said 3 years and not 3-4, but the fact that he was a better player from 05-07 than he was from 09-11 doesn't mean I haven't been paying attention to him, although it might mean that you haven't. I suppose he had a better year than Rose or Nash last year, I suppose I'd say he was top 3-4 considering the health of players.


Re: The NBA's top 10 PG's according to SI (Rondo is number 6)
« Reply #55 on: March 04, 2013, 03:18:53 PM »

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me thinks this parker discussion is losing course.

parker's a terrific player getting a little more attention in the last week because his extremely well respected coach went public and pointed out that he's one of the best players on the planet right now.

guy's an awesome triple threat, but more importantly a smart team player who has rounded his game over the years, and maximizes his effectiveness and that of his teammates, resulting in leading one of the most efficient offenses in the NBA.

he deserves that credit, and calling rondo 'better' is stretching it.
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Re: The NBA's top 10 PG's according to SI (Rondo is number 6)
« Reply #56 on: March 04, 2013, 03:21:27 PM »

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Parker can be considered a legitimate top-3 player in this league, to be honest. Behind KD/LB, there's a mish-mash of other players who can be the third-best.

Tony Parker is one of them.
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Re: The NBA's top 10 PG's according to SI (Rondo is number 6)
« Reply #57 on: March 04, 2013, 03:22:25 PM »

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6th seems about right to me.  And depending how next year goes, I could see him drop to 7th or 8th...  Lots of young point guards coming up and D-Will is due for a bounce-back season.

Also, I have a hard time believing Rondo will ever average 11+ assists again... not now that it's been pretty much proven the stats were inflated in an offensive system that didn't really work.

Re: The NBA's top 10 PG's according to SI (Rondo is number 6)
« Reply #58 on: March 04, 2013, 03:38:53 PM »

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i dont think tony parker is better than rondo.


Why?



21 points

7.6 assists

.533 FG %

.379 3 FG %

.82 FT % getting to the line almost 5 times a game. 


And leads the team with the best record in the NBA.




What is there not to like?

  That's one year though, I don't think he's really been top 5 or so in any of the previous 3-4 years.

   I should clarify this remark somewhat. What I meant was I wouldn't have considered him to be a top 5 point guard over the last 3 or so seasons. That doesn't mean that he wasn't having one of the 5 best seasons for a point guard. For instance Rondo was better when healthy in 10-11 but he wasn't always healthy, or I'd have said Rose was a better pg last year even though he wasn't playing better than Parker when he wasn't healthy.
 

Re: The NBA's top 10 PG's according to SI (Rondo is number 6)
« Reply #59 on: March 04, 2013, 03:50:11 PM »

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6th seems about right to me.  And depending how next year goes, I could see him drop to 7th or 8th...  Lots of young point guards coming up and D-Will is due for a bounce-back season.

Also, I have a hard time believing Rondo will ever average 11+ assists again... not now that it's been pretty much proven the stats were inflated in an offensive system that didn't really work.

   Not only has it not been proven that Rondo's stats were inflated, it hasn't been shown that the offensive system didn't work. Nash and Magic and Stockton each had 5-7 11+ assist seasons when they were older than Rondo so it probably isn't as unlikely as you think. And, for the record, those guys were playing in offensive systems that led to high assist totals for them.