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Heard part of a Scal real insightful interview on 98.5 this a.m. on the way to work.

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/02/27/scalabrine-on-toucher-rich-is-rondo-the-smartest-guy-in-the-room/

Rondo very smart. Doesn't suffer fools well. Doesn't bring it every night like DRose does.

On the rift between Rondo and Judas, Scal explains it this way:

Rondo, PP, KG all about the team winning. Judas isn't dumb, that isn't the cause of the rift. Judas focus wasn't always on the Cs winning.

If they had a team meeting, specifically about the team winning and losing KG/Rondo/PP were about "how do we get the team to win". Judas was all about "what do I need to do?". Scal made the "we" vs "I" distinction pretty clear.

Either Dan Roach or Toucher or Rich (one was not there)then immediately asked, "So Rondo doesn't like selfish players?", obviously specifically referring to Judas. Scal immediately, without hesitation answered "yes".

Yah, Judas wil "always be a Celtic". BS on that.

Check out the whole interview. Well worth the listen.


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Rondo, PP, KG all about the team winning. Judas isn't dumb, that isn't the cause of the rift. Judas focus wasn't always on the Cs winning.

If they had a team meeting, specifically about the team winning and losing KG/Rondo/PP were about "how do we get the team to win". Judas was all about "what do I need to do?". Scal made the "we" vs "I" distinction pretty clear.

In fairness, Scal said, from his perspective, most players in the NBA talk about what they individually need to do to make the same win, and that every player on the Celtics outside of KG, Pierce, and Rondo were that way.


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Rondo very smart. Doesn't suffer fools well. Doesn't bring it every night like DRose does.

In my opinion that's the biggest issue right there. Both incredibly talented players. Elite talent. But I guess that is the difference between a MVP and an All-Star.

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Rondo, PP, KG all about the team winning. Judas isn't dumb, that isn't the cause of the rift. Judas focus wasn't always on the Cs winning.

If they had a team meeting, specifically about the team winning and losing KG/Rondo/PP were about "how do we get the team to win". Judas was all about "what do I need to do?". Scal made the "we" vs "I" distinction pretty clear.

In fairness, Scal said, from his perspective, most players in the NBA talk about what they individually need to do to make the same win, and that every player on the Celtics outside of KG, Pierce, and Rondo were that way.

Scal clearly Said, 3 players on the Celtics (PP,KG,RR) were about what we can do as a team to win, while Ray was like..what can I do ...how the team can set him up to win or something of that nature...

Glad hes gone..never liked him.


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Rondo, PP, KG all about the team winning. Judas isn't dumb, that isn't the cause of the rift. Judas focus wasn't always on the Cs winning.

If they had a team meeting, specifically about the team winning and losing KG/Rondo/PP were about "how do we get the team to win". Judas was all about "what do I need to do?". Scal made the "we" vs "I" distinction pretty clear.

In fairness, Scal said, from his perspective, most players in the NBA talk about what they individually need to do to make the same win, and that every player on the Celtics outside of KG, Pierce, and Rondo were that way.

Scal clearly Said, 3 players on the Celtics (PP,KG,RR) were about what we can do as a team to win, while Ray was like..what can I do ...how the team can set him up to win or something of that nature...

Glad hes gone..never liked him.

Right.  Like I said, every player on the Celtics other than Pierce, Rondo, and KG had the perspective "how can I individually help the team win", as opposed to the perspective of those three, which was "what do we all need to do better?"


D. Cousins / I. Mahinmi / P. Antic
D. West / R. Anderson / C. Copeland
L. Deng / K. Singler / D. Rudez
A. Iguodala / V. Carter / B. Gordon / C.J. Wilcox
K. Irving / S. Livingston / S. Blake

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Rondo, PP, KG all about the team winning. Judas isn't dumb, that isn't the cause of the rift. Judas focus wasn't always on the Cs winning.

If they had a team meeting, specifically about the team winning and losing KG/Rondo/PP were about "how do we get the team to win". Judas was all about "what do I need to do?". Scal made the "we" vs "I" distinction pretty clear.

In fairness, Scal said, from his perspective, most players in the NBA talk about what they individually need to do to make the same win, and that every player on the Celtics outside of KG, Pierce, and Rondo were that way.

Scal clearly Said, 3 players on the Celtics (PP,KG,RR) were about what we can do as a team to win, while Ray was like..what can I do ...how the team can set him up to win or something of that nature...

Glad hes gone..never liked him.

Right.  Like I said, every player on the Celtics other than Pierce, Rondo, and KG had the perspective "how can I individually help the team win", as opposed to the perspective of those three, which was "what do we all need to do better?"

But he pointed out Ray in particular,he didnt have to do that but he did, Ray wasnt a role player on the Celtics but a key piece for 5 years. When a Guy is "all about me" thats the ugliest thing in team sports.

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Rondo, PP, KG all about the team winning. Judas isn't dumb, that isn't the cause of the rift. Judas focus wasn't always on the Cs winning.

If they had a team meeting, specifically about the team winning and losing KG/Rondo/PP were about "how do we get the team to win". Judas was all about "what do I need to do?". Scal made the "we" vs "I" distinction pretty clear.

In fairness, Scal said, from his perspective, most players in the NBA talk about what they individually need to do to make the same win, and that every player on the Celtics outside of KG, Pierce, and Rondo were that way.

Scal clearly Said, 3 players on the Celtics (PP,KG,RR) were about what we can do as a team to win, while Ray was like..what can I do ...how the team can set him up to win or something of that nature...

Glad hes gone..never liked him.

Right.  Like I said, every player on the Celtics other than Pierce, Rondo, and KG had the perspective "how can I individually help the team win", as opposed to the perspective of those three, which was "what do we all need to do better?"

But he pointed out Ray in particular,he didnt have to do that but he did

The question asked was specifically about Ray and his relationship with Rondo.


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D. West / R. Anderson / C. Copeland
L. Deng / K. Singler / D. Rudez
A. Iguodala / V. Carter / B. Gordon / C.J. Wilcox
K. Irving / S. Livingston / S. Blake

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I have always had a lot of respect for Scal.  I appreciate his point of view.  Thanks for posting the interview.
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I understand that the OP hates Ray, but this is just semantics. If someone told a story about how KG, PP, RR, or any star player showed up to a meeting and said "Alright, how can I help this team win?" or "How I can best use my abilities to help the team?" or "What can I do to help?" we would all consider them to be very unselfish and there would be numerous threads about how awesome they are.

But because Ray didn't say "In the interest of mutual sacrifice for the better of the team, I understand that we all will have to share in the responsibility to make the team better and, as such, I am fully prepared to plan how everyone, potentially even (but not explicitly) including me, can help the team by understanding their roles and doing what they do best" he is somehow selfish?


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I, too, am kind of confused.
What else is he supposed to say?
Ok...we want the team to win...what must I do to help the team win? why is this selfish?

Wouldn't it be more their fault for not saying, hey, take a back seat you're no longer option #3 and won't be. ever.

Idk...just playing devils advocate. Because I'm not sure what else Ray was supposed to say in that circumstance. Maybe I should listen.

I could understand better if it was KG/PP/RR wanted the team to win and Ray was asking 'ok so how do I get my 15 points a game then?'

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sounds like Scal was calling him selfish but to Roy's point, it might have been more along the lines of being egocentric or even narcissistic - meaning he wanted to help the team win, but he was only concerned with how HE could help the team

if Rondo could help the team win by taking no shots, he would do it - that doesn't compute to Ray
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Also, I get the general idea of the comment. I think Ray wasn't comfortable being option #4 and didn't like being pigeon holed in the offense as a corner 3-pt specialist, so he probably was more selfish than the others.

My previous post was more about having double standards of players' comments. Just because you don't like a player doesn't mean every public uttering has to be twisted around to make them sound like they are public enemy #1.

(Unless it's Kobe)

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I've always liked PP/KG/RR much more than Judas.

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Having just listened to that part (starting around the 8:45 mark), Scal said that Ray Allen was a typical player who thought from a perspective of "the team needs to do more of what I'm good at".  RR/KG/PP are very atypical in thinking on a higher level. 

I don't think it's a bad or selfish thing.  It's more of a limitation and inability to see the big picture.  Not to get political, but it's the difference between a voter who thinks that what is good for the country is more of whatever improves his own personal position vs a voter who votes for what he thinks is good for the country, even if it is not in his personal financial best interest.
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Also, I get the general idea of the comment. I think Ray wasn't comfortable being option #4 and didn't like being pigeon holed in the offense as a corner 3-pt specialist, so he probably was more selfish than the others.

My previous post was more about having double standards of players' comments. Just because you don't like a player doesn't mean every public uttering has to be twisted around to make them sound like they are public enemy #1.

(Unless it's Kobe)

I was a dedicated Kobe hater, but now I find him very respectable compared to Judas.

 

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