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Re: Simple Question: Is Doc a great coach?
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2013, 08:38:11 AM »

Offline BudweiserCeltic

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Great?  No.

He's a good coach for a veteran team, though.

This. But has some very bad habits, and a lot of head scratching moments to go along with perceived favorites.

Re: Simple Question: Is Doc a great coach?
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2013, 08:38:55 AM »

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i think doc is great with a veteran team and good with a younger/rebuilding team.  so overall, i say "very good"

Re: Simple Question: Is Doc a great coach?
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2013, 08:47:26 AM »

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Re: Simple Question: Is Doc a great coach?
« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2013, 09:32:25 AM »

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I think very good is fair.  His people skills are fantastic and he seems like a genuinely very good guy.

Re: Simple Question: Is Doc a great coach?
« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2013, 09:36:27 AM »

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I like doc but absolutely not...Tom thibodeau was more important then him in our finals years...he's simply overrated..a decent  veteran player coach...I think 80% of the  leagues coaches could have done with this team what he's accomplished and better

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Re: Simple Question: Is Doc a great coach?
« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2013, 10:16:35 AM »

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To use Doc's word, he's a 'terrific' big picture guy... player relations, player management, recruiting, etc. Not to be dismissed out of hand.

I think there's a tendency to call him a bad Xs and Os coach, when in truth i'd say inconsistent would be a better way to describe him.

i don't have the big issue with his rotation or sub patterns like others.

 
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Re: Simple Question: Is Doc a great coach?
« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2013, 10:27:55 AM »

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I think very good is fair.  His people skills are fantastic and he seems like a genuinely very good guy.


And this is why he's widely accepted as "the best coach in the game"...he's friendly, and the media loves him....in reality kg could be a player/coach and we'd lose nothing

Re: Simple Question: Is Doc a great coach?
« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2013, 10:36:43 AM »

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I think very good is fair.  His people skills are fantastic and he seems like a genuinely very good guy.


And this is why he's widely accepted as "the best coach in the game"...he's friendly, and the media loves him....in reality kg could be a player/coach and we'd lose nothing
He's widely accepted as the "best coach in the NBA" because he's probably the greatest personnel manager among active coaches in the NBA right now. Or in other words, his teams play hard and he seems to always be able to get the best out of his players. This has nothing to do with the media.

And he's, well, stable (remeber Obie resigning over trading, ahem, Tony Battie and Eric Williams?)



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Re: Simple Question: Is Doc a great coach?
« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2013, 10:44:46 AM »

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No. Maybe in the top dozen coaches in the league at the moment which makes him above average but not great by any stretch.  I expect he goes back to television in a few years. 

Re: Simple Question: Is Doc a great coach?
« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2013, 10:45:41 AM »

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I think very good is fair.  His people skills are fantastic and he seems like a genuinely very good guy.


And this is why he's widely accepted as "the best coach in the game"...he's friendly, and the media loves him....in reality kg could be a player/coach and we'd lose nothing
He's widely accepted as the "best coach in the NBA" because he's probably the greatest personnel manager among active coaches in the NBA right now. Or in other words, his teams play hard and he seems to always be able to get the best out of his players. This has nothing to do with the media.

And he's, well, stable (remeber Obie resigning over trading, ahem, Tony Battie and Eric Williams?)

I disagree adamantly that he gets the best out of his players...his relationship with kg has meant everything...kg gets the best out of his teammates, they play hard for kg as much as they do doc, and kg has been loyal to him as he is with moSt things. When we made the finals it was Tom thibodeaus defense...really little to do with doc, although the egregious 7 game series against inferior competition should be credited to him.
Who debates and states propaganda about "best coach in the game" People in the media...there's not a better interview or coach in the game when it comes to media.

Re: Simple Question: Is Doc a great coach?
« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2013, 10:49:44 AM »

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Let me see how the team plays when Rondo comes back then I will decide.

Re: Simple Question: Is Doc a great coach?
« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2013, 10:53:19 AM »

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When we made the finals it was Tom thibodeaus defense...really little to do with doc, although the egregious 7 game series against inferior competition should be credited to him.
Of course, as we've established already, when we win everyone but Doc is great, when we lose, it's all Doc's fault.

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Re: Simple Question: Is Doc a great coach?
« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2013, 11:10:26 AM »

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I think very good is fair.  His people skills are fantastic and he seems like a genuinely very good guy.


And this is why he's widely accepted as "the best coach in the game"...he's friendly, and the media loves him....in reality kg could be a player/coach and we'd lose nothing
He's widely accepted as the "best coach in the NBA" because he's probably the greatest personnel manager among active coaches in the NBA right now. Or in other words, his teams play hard and he seems to always be able to get the best out of his players. This has nothing to do with the media.

  Obviously it goes beyond that though. I don't know if I saw all of any single game on the recent road trip but I saw a lot of wild, undisciplined offense, ill-advised shots and poor shot clock usage from the other things. If nothing else makes people appreciate Doc watching other teams play should.

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« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2013, 11:28:59 AM »

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I think very good is fair.  His people skills are fantastic and he seems like a genuinely very good guy.


And this is why he's widely accepted as "the best coach in the game"...he's friendly, and the media loves him....in reality kg could be a player/coach and we'd lose nothing
He's widely accepted as the "best coach in the NBA" because he's probably the greatest personnel manager among active coaches in the NBA right now. Or in other words, his teams play hard and he seems to always be able to get the best out of his players. This has nothing to do with the media.

I think almost nobody would put Doc as a better coach than Popovich at the very least.  Pop's #1 and everyone else is fighting for 2nd.

Re: Simple Question: Is Doc a great coach?
« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2013, 11:30:13 AM »

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I'm not sure I'd throw out the adjective "great" but Doc is a very good coach and probably the best player coach out there without letting the inmates run the asylum.


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