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Explain how Danny stays employed after this season?
« on: February 21, 2013, 10:43:07 PM »

Offline ctrey

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This last year he has made zero decent moves. Not one. Let's recap in no real order:

Let Ray Allen not only leave for nothing in return, but go to the team that will most likely win the title this year. a team in our own conference. This because Danny told Ray was gone before getting the deal locked down, thus angering Ray, particularly when the deal fell apart and they had to walk the whole thing back. Imagine your boss says: "You're fired, you're fired for a guy who may or may not be better than you. Oh wait, the guy does not want to work here. Nevermind, get back to work."

Signed Darko who clearly wanted no part of Doc and Doc wanted no part of him.

Drafted one player with a back problem. A back problem. Find one, One athlete with back issues that ever really recovers.

Drafts another player that will not contribute for at least another two years if ever. The team already makes fun of what a ding bat this guy is. Publicly. Makes me really confident.

Signed Jason Terry who either does not fit in or who aged twenty years in the off season. If Terry could do his job, score, we would not have needed to trade for Jordan Crawford after Barbosa, who also would not have played if Terry could score anymore, went down. Think about it.

Let Greg Stiemsma go when we really could have used him and kept him had we cared. He has been better than Darko and Collins while playing for the Wolves.

Traded too much and then paid too much for Courtney Lee. Now in fairness Lee has finally started to show a pulse but we gave up too much for him. E'Twaun Moore has been just as good for millions less and we lost the Charlotte Bobcats first pick in the second round of this upcoming draft, which right now would be the 31st pick. Now this upcoming draft does not have any real stars but by all accounts it is deep. I would much rather have had Moore and that pick than Lee overpaid at 5 million per year for another four years.

Signed Jeff Green for nine million dollars a year for four years. I do not need to even go into this. everybody on this board and everybody in the NBA knows two things about that deal. One, the Celtics were bidding against nobody. Two, that Green was the most obscenely overpaid player in the off season. Think I am exaggerating? Garnett makes an average of 11.5 million per season over the term of his deal. Green makes nine. With an extra year. Nuff said.

Went through the trade deadline when we desperately needed big men and came away with Jordan Crawford. Now on the face of it, I like getting Crawford for nothing. He can flat out score and is dirt cheap. However, we have one center, KG and two power forwards, Bass and Wilcox. You know how many points we gave up in the paint against the Lakers the other night? Fifty four. Think that is going stop? Not real likely. So now we will use cast-offs to keep Wilcox and KG from burning out down the stretch. Great plan.

Danny's failings this year have effectively doomed us to be mediocre this year and next. Staying around .500, not getting a decent draft pick, never getting much better because we are capped out until 2015. Plus who has faith we can get a top flight free agent to sign here? Not one ever has. Now this year not being in the lottery is not a big deal. There are no real team changing players and picking at 18 or 19 which where we will most likely end up may not be much different than picking at 9 or 10. 2014's draft however is another case altogether. That draft is loaded. People think as good as 2003's draft. Being in the top 5 picks could change the franchise. Instead, Pierce and KG will be here for at least part of the year, keeping this team around .500 and out of the lottery. Keeping us in middle-of-the-road purgatory.

Being a team that stays in the middle, year after year, dooms a franchise. Nine times out of ten, you have crater to get back up. The only teams this is not the case for is Miami and L.A..They are attractive destinations for players so their ability to get free agents allows them to as the saying goes "reload" rather than "rebuild". This team won the '08 title by being bad, compiling draft picks, making good choices with those picks and then trading those picks for established stars. Danny has had a decent record drafting. This year he blew it. I must admit I still have faith he can draft well again. Too bad he will not have that 31st pick as well as our first rounder to prove it.

Now I get that for the sake of tradition and respect, letting KG and Pierce ride off together is a nice thought and may help the Celtics getting players down the line. They might look at that and say "that franchise is good to their guys, that means something to me." I hope they think that, but I doubt they will. They will look at the weather, the taxes and the lack of off-the-court fun to be had in New England and say "Miami, Dallas, L.A., OK. No way will I go to Boston." Sure Doc may help of course but I still think we are behind Miami, Dallas, Los Angeles and NYC for free agents no matter how honorable we end up being to KG and Paul.

So barring a miracle, it will have been five years since we last won a title, three since we have been to the finals at the end of this season. Yes. That long. Happy we held on to KG and Pierce now? Happy we have Lee, Terry and Green on the books for combined twenty million for the next three years? Nope, did not think so. Hope you like average, Boston fans. You are going to see a whole lot of it until 2016.

Re: Explain how Danny stays employed after this season?
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2013, 10:45:32 PM »

Offline BudweiserCeltic

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So I read the first line of your post, and skipped the rest. Don't want to waste my time with a lot of nonsense.

Re: Explain how Danny stays employed after this season?
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2013, 10:46:14 PM »

Offline Cman

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You've got to be kidding me.
Anyway, if its any solace, the seasons not over.
And Danny can still trade KG to the Clips on draft night, satisfying many here on Cblog.
Celtics fan for life.

Re: Explain how Danny stays employed after this season?
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2013, 10:47:16 PM »

Offline CelticConcourse

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I'll just say, you have many valid points, but I must disagree about Lee and Green. Lee is worth it, and Green can be worth it. Fab was a gamble, and Sully... I really don't know. And for the trade deadline, there wasn't anything outstanding tbh

TP still deserved.
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Re: Explain how Danny stays employed after this season?
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2013, 10:51:00 PM »

Offline WeMadeIt17

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I agree with you on some points. I also looked at this way as well. IF guys like Crawford Lee AB Green and Bass play pretty decent till the end of the year or even have a decent run in the playoffs, Danny could package a few of these guys together for something decent.

I agree Danny needed to get some height this trade deadline and didn't. But all of us thought getting Terry was going to be a perfect move for this team. Along with Clee coming in who is a better defender then ray was. So yes hindsight is always 20/20 but we just need a few guys to step up and it could make for an interesting off-season.

Re: Explain how Danny stays employed after this season?
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2013, 10:52:12 PM »

Offline LooseCannon

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The reason Danny stays employed after the season is because ownership isn't a bunch of panicky idiots.
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Re: Explain how Danny stays employed after this season?
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2013, 10:53:58 PM »

Offline gpap

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I reckon we are going to hear about how Danny ingeniously assembled the championship team in 2007-08.

It was five years ago, but hey :D ???

Re: Explain how Danny stays employed after this season?
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2013, 10:55:59 PM »

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LET'S GO CELTICS!

Re: Explain how Danny stays employed after this season?
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2013, 10:56:52 PM »

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 I really hate to tell you this but we really needed a guard more than we needed a big.  WE HAD 3 GUARDS ON OUR ROSTER!!!!!!  Yes we need a big but we have KG, WIlcox, Green, Bass and Melo that can play the PF and C positions. 

Re: Explain how Danny stays employed after this season?
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2013, 10:57:03 PM »

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So I read the first line of your post, and skipped the rest. Don't want to waste my time with a lot of nonsense.

How so? Or are you just a a typical Kool-Aid drinker? Make one counter point. One. Of course I am sure it will be nonsense so I will not waste my time. So do not bother.

Re: Explain how Danny stays employed after this season?
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2013, 10:58:31 PM »

Offline ctrey

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You've got to be kidding me.
Anyway, if its any solace, the seasons not over.
And Danny can still trade KG to the Clips on draft night, satisfying many here on Cblog.

No, I am not kidding. Go through his moves this year and explain how they were good to great moves. By draft night, the Clippers will most likely not want KG anymore.

Re: Explain how Danny stays employed after this season?
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2013, 10:58:55 PM »

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Go to the Garden.  Look up at the rafters and see the 17th banner.  That should answer your question.  Ownership will have Ainge here as long as he wants to be here.  They rightfully believe in him. 

Ainge has mis-fired plenty, but that's the nature of the job.  If the Cs had a bit more luck ont he injury front, there could be two more banners in the rafters under his leadership.

I reckon we are going to hear about how Danny ingeniously assembled the championship team in 2007-08.

It was five years ago, but hey :D ???


Five whole years?  Detroit hasn't won a title in 8 seasons and can't sniff the playoffs.  Philly is 29 years title-less. The vaunted Spurs haven't hoisted a flag in 6 years.  Houston hasn't in 17 years.  For the rest of the teams, none of their players were born the last time their team won a title. Try some perspective.   

Re: Explain how Danny stays employed after this season?
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2013, 10:59:35 PM »

Offline wahz

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It might have something to do with the Celtics winning the title this year

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« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2013, 11:00:48 PM »

Offline rutzan

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If you are a DA basher on Celtic Blog then you are here for a reason...you are a wannabe GM throwing in your 2 cents from the peanut gallery because you have nothing better to do!

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« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2013, 11:02:41 PM »

Offline BballTim

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Signed Jeff Green for nine million dollars a year for four years. I do not need to even go into this. everybody on this board and everybody in the NBA knows two things about that deal. One, the Celtics were bidding against nobody.

  Plenty of people say that Danny was bidding against nobody for Green, plenty of those people are very authoritative when they make that claim. None of them have the slightest idea whether it's true or not.