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Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #30 on: February 21, 2013, 02:12:35 PM »

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Great deal if all it costs us is Barbosa.

Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #31 on: February 21, 2013, 02:13:02 PM »

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So do the numbers match or not between Crawford and Barbosa?  Can't work the trade machine so not sure.

Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #32 on: February 21, 2013, 02:13:26 PM »

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Very interesting that the deal does not involve Melo.

Means that two of the Wilcox/Barbosa/Collins group may be outgoing, or a bigger salary may be involved.

I bet both teams are trying to bring a third team in to help broker the deal.

I think the actual salaries match fine.  The $854k listed as Barbosa's salary is his salary for cap purposes, but his actual salary is over $1 million.  I think that actual salary can be included in the deal for purposes of matching salaries.


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Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #33 on: February 21, 2013, 02:15:05 PM »

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Celtics will send the Leandro Barbosa expiring contract to the Wizards for Jordan Crawford, league source tells Y! Sports.
That is fine. Make use of that dead roster spot. Crawford will be a useful fifth guard.

5th guard?  I'd say he's fourth in line, unless you think Wlliams is in front of him?

Did we just get him for Barbosa straight up?  If so, that's a steal.

Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2013, 02:18:01 PM »

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Good. Now we can spin Danny's draft day mistake from last summer - Melo - for something else. Maybe a bag of balls.
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Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #35 on: February 21, 2013, 02:18:25 PM »

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I don't like it. It's the ever-elusive subtraction by addition.

Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2013, 02:20:43 PM »

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For the record, the trade does NOT work.  Crawford makes 30k too much.  So something else is up.

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Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #37 on: February 21, 2013, 02:21:49 PM »

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Very interesting that the deal does not involve Melo.

Means that two of the Wilcox/Barbosa/Collins group may be outgoing, or a bigger salary may be involved.

I bet both teams are trying to bring a third team in to help broker the deal.

I think the actual salaries match fine.  The $854k listed as Barbosa's salary is his salary for cap purposes, but his actual salary is over $1 million.  I think that actual salary can be included in the deal for purposes of matching salaries.

Aha. Did not know that about Barbosa's deal.

If Ainge didn't have to give up a 1st rounder, I'm totally on board with the deal.

Crawford is under contract for next season as well, for relatively cheap. Could be a trade chip for a future deal after this season if he doesn't fit in.
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Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #38 on: February 21, 2013, 02:23:27 PM »

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meh..crawford is free....but he adds a practice body and not much else...he and williams are pretty just worthless to this team

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« Reply #39 on: February 21, 2013, 02:24:58 PM »

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Very interesting that the deal does not involve Melo.

Means that two of the Wilcox/Barbosa/Collins group may be outgoing, or a bigger salary may be involved.

I bet both teams are trying to bring a third team in to help broker the deal.

I think the actual salaries match fine.  The $854k listed as Barbosa's salary is his salary for cap purposes, but his actual salary is over $1 million.  I think that actual salary can be included in the deal for purposes of matching salaries.

It counts as 854k, but can bring back 125% + 100k, so it works just fine.

Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #40 on: February 21, 2013, 02:30:27 PM »

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Crawfords game and style are similar to barbosa. I like the deal seeing as how barbosa can't play. Trade machine said it failed. Not sure this was addressed.


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Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #41 on: February 21, 2013, 02:31:39 PM »

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For the record, Crawford is currently the best PG on the team. I can easily see him starting over Bradley if he's got his head screwed straight.
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Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #42 on: February 21, 2013, 02:33:29 PM »

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Very interesting that the deal does not involve Melo.

Means that two of the Wilcox/Barbosa/Collins group may be outgoing, or a bigger salary may be involved.

I bet both teams are trying to bring a third team in to help broker the deal.

I think the actual salaries match fine.  The $854k listed as Barbosa's salary is his salary for cap purposes, but his actual salary is over $1 million.  I think that actual salary can be included in the deal for purposes of matching salaries.

It counts as 854k, but can bring back 125% + 100k, so it works just fine.

$854k x 1.25% + $100k falls just short of Crawford's reported salary.

Barbosa's actual salary of around $1.2 million matches fine, though.


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Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #43 on: February 21, 2013, 02:37:06 PM »

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Very interesting that the deal does not involve Melo.

Means that two of the Wilcox/Barbosa/Collins group may be outgoing, or a bigger salary may be involved.

I bet both teams are trying to bring a third team in to help broker the deal.

I think the actual salaries match fine.  The $854k listed as Barbosa's salary is his salary for cap purposes, but his actual salary is over $1 million.  I think that actual salary can be included in the deal for purposes of matching salaries.

It counts as 854k, but can bring back 125% + 100k, so it works just fine.

$854k x 1.25% + $100k falls just short of Crawford's reported salary.

Barbosa's actual salary of around $1.2 million matches fine, though.
Interesting that his actual salary does not match hi cap salary.  And interesting that his cap salary would not be the one of record for trades.

Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #44 on: February 21, 2013, 02:37:44 PM »

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Celtics will send the Leandro Barbosa expiring contract to the Wizards for Jordan Crawford, league source tells Y! Sports.
That is fine. Make use of that dead roster spot. Crawford will be a useful fifth guard.

5th guard?  I'd say he's fourth in line, unless you think Wlliams is in front of him?

Did we just get him for Barbosa straight up?  If so, that's a steal.

Yeah, I think T-Williams is in front of him. I think his size, defense and rebounding is more important than Crawford's streaky scoring.