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Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #75 on: February 21, 2013, 03:53:05 PM »

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This move was a business move not a basketball move. It saves $600,000, might get the C's under the luxury tax, and/or open more space under the hard cap.

It has nothing to do with bigs or guards or anything else. It was business and Danny is going to give Williams and Crawford to Doc and tell him:

"Just make it work until the end of the year. If you can make the playoffs and we can fill the building a couple times, great. If not, no biggie, we weren't going to win it all without Rondo anyway. Let's get through this year and we will start fresh next."

Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #76 on: February 21, 2013, 03:58:02 PM »

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This move was a business move not a basketball move. It saves $600,000, might get the C's under the luxury tax, and/or open more space under the hard cap.

It has nothing to do with bigs or guards or anything else. It was business and Danny is going to give Williams and Crawford to Doc and tell him:

"Just make it work until the end of the year. If you can make the playoffs and we can fill the building a couple times, great. If not, no biggie, we weren't going to win it all without Rondo anyway. Let's get through this year and we will start fresh next."

Pretty much this.

But now Fab has to play legit minutes unless something changes.  Which is scary.  But oh well.
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Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #77 on: February 21, 2013, 04:01:03 PM »

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But now Fab has to play legit minutes unless something changes.  Which is scary.  But oh well.
I used to think Collins was a crafty veteran who plays solid positional defense, but frankly, after his most recent outings, I don't see how Melo can be substantially worse.
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Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #78 on: February 21, 2013, 04:01:22 PM »

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"Jordan Crawford is 1 of 7 players averaging 18 pts, 5 ast & 4 rebs per 36 min. (Kobe, LeBron, Wade, Harden, Westbrook, Manu)." Anybody wanna research this to see if its true.

It's true, but....

Chris Paul misses by 0.3 rebounds.  John Wall misses by 0.1 points.  Stephen Curry misses by 0.1 rebounds.  Kyrie Irving misses by 0.2 rebounds.  Ramon Sessions misses by 0.1 points.  Paul Pierce misses by 0.3 assists.  Heck, Nate Robinson is short by half a rebound.

Still, being one of 23 players averaging at least 17 points, 4 assists, and 3 rebounds per 36 minutes isn't bad.

What it really means is that he's a very good rebounder at the guard spot. He's averaging 5.7 per 48 minutes.

The only PGs with better rebounding numbers are Shumpert, Westbrook, Vasquez, Kidd and Bledsoe.

There are even only 10 or so SGs who rebound at a better rate - Kobe, Harden, Sefolosha, TA, Iggy etc.

So look at it this way - if our most pressing need was a rebounding big, at least we got a rebounding small!

Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #79 on: February 21, 2013, 04:03:28 PM »

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This move was a business move not a basketball move. It saves $600,000, might get the C's under the luxury tax, and/or open more space under the hard cap.

It has nothing to do with bigs or guards or anything else. It was business and Danny is going to give Williams and Crawford to Doc and tell him:

"Just make it work until the end of the year. If you can make the playoffs and we can fill the building a couple times, great. If not, no biggie, we weren't going to win it all without Rondo anyway. Let's get through this year and we will start fresh next."
But aren't we going to sign two players to fill out the roster that make more than that $600k combined?
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Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #80 on: February 21, 2013, 04:07:34 PM »

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But now Fab has to play legit minutes unless something changes.  Which is scary.  But oh well.
I used to think Collins was a crafty veteran who plays solid positional defense, but frankly, after his most recent outings, I don't see how Melo can be substantially worse.

ha I still give him credit for solid enough D but his lack of rebounding, as I said, is just confusing.

I hope you're right about Fab though I guess you probably aren't wrong.  I just hope Fab doesn't make bonehead plays.
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Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #81 on: February 21, 2013, 04:09:06 PM »

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This move was a business move not a basketball move. It saves $600,000, might get the C's under the luxury tax, and/or open more space under the hard cap.

It has nothing to do with bigs or guards or anything else. It was business and Danny is going to give Williams and Crawford to Doc and tell him:

"Just make it work until the end of the year. If you can make the playoffs and we can fill the building a couple times, great. If not, no biggie, we weren't going to win it all without Rondo anyway. Let's get through this year and we will start fresh next."
But aren't we going to sign two players to fill out the roster that make more than that $600k combined?
Rondo
Bradley
Pierce
Bass
KG
Green
Lee
Terry
Wilcox
Sullinger
Melo
Williams
Crawford

If Williams isn't retained, and I don't think he will be, they still have 12 players on the roster. That meets league minimum requirements. They don't need to sign anyone else.

Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #82 on: February 21, 2013, 04:13:37 PM »

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This move was a business move not a basketball move. It saves $600,000, might get the C's under the luxury tax, and/or open more space under the hard cap.

It has nothing to do with bigs or guards or anything else. It was business and Danny is going to give Williams and Crawford to Doc and tell him:

"Just make it work until the end of the year. If you can make the playoffs and we can fill the building a couple times, great. If not, no biggie, we weren't going to win it all without Rondo anyway. Let's get through this year and we will start fresh next."
But aren't we going to sign two players to fill out the roster that make more than that $600k combined?
Rondo
Bradley
Pierce
Bass
KG
Green
Lee
Terry
Wilcox
Sullinger
Melo
Williams
Crawford

If Williams isn't retained, and I don't think he will be, they still have 12 players on the roster. That meets league minimum requirements. They don't need to sign anyone else.
With Sullinger/Rondo injured and KG/Pierce not being able to play too many minutes due to age I would be shocked if they didn't sign anyone else.

If you would care to make a tp wager on it I would be game.
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Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #83 on: February 21, 2013, 04:14:45 PM »

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This move was a business move not a basketball move. It saves $600,000, might get the C's under the luxury tax, and/or open more space under the hard cap.

It has nothing to do with bigs or guards or anything else. It was business and Danny is going to give Williams and Crawford to Doc and tell him:

"Just make it work until the end of the year. If you can make the playoffs and we can fill the building a couple times, great. If not, no biggie, we weren't going to win it all without Rondo anyway. Let's get through this year and we will start fresh next."
But aren't we going to sign two players to fill out the roster that make more than that $600k combined?
Rondo
Bradley
Pierce
Bass
KG
Green
Lee
Terry
Wilcox
Sullinger
Melo
Williams
Crawford

If Williams isn't retained, and I don't think he will be, they still have 12 players on the roster. That meets league minimum requirements. They don't need to sign anyone else.

For whatever it's worth, the new league minimum roster size is now 13.  I think it may have been 12 under the last CBA, but it's 13 now.


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Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #84 on: February 21, 2013, 04:17:54 PM »

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Pretty sure Crawford played pg for the Wiz when Wall was out, and he put up some nice stats. Hopefully he works out here

Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #85 on: February 21, 2013, 04:22:10 PM »

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We need a big. Melo isn't ready leaving only kg, bass, Wilcox, and at times green.


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Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #86 on: February 21, 2013, 04:23:52 PM »

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This move was a business move not a basketball move. It saves $600,000, might get the C's under the luxury tax, and/or open more space under the hard cap.

It has nothing to do with bigs or guards or anything else. It was business and Danny is going to give Williams and Crawford to Doc and tell him:

"Just make it work until the end of the year. If you can make the playoffs and we can fill the building a couple times, great. If not, no biggie, we weren't going to win it all without Rondo anyway. Let's get through this year and we will start fresh next."
But aren't we going to sign two players to fill out the roster that make more than that $600k combined?
Rondo
Bradley
Pierce
Bass
KG
Green
Lee
Terry
Wilcox
Sullinger
Melo
Williams
Crawford

If Williams isn't retained, and I don't think he will be, they still have 12 players on the roster. That meets league minimum requirements. They don't need to sign anyone else.

For whatever it's worth, the new league minimum roster size is now 13.  I think it may have been 12 under the last CBA, but it's 13 now.
Then I guess if Williams doesn't get signed the rest of the season, someone besides him will.

Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #87 on: February 21, 2013, 04:42:49 PM »

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I'm just glad we didn't get rid of Fab Melo. 
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Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #88 on: February 21, 2013, 04:43:56 PM »

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why would a bad team like the wiz just give away a guy averaging 13 ppg?
He was mouthing off in the locker room.

Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #89 on: February 21, 2013, 04:45:45 PM »

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