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Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #45 on: February 21, 2013, 02:42:24 PM »

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Why is everyone hating on this guy ? 13 ppg is better than all 3 of our guards , jeff green and is 3rd most on our team ...

Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #46 on: February 21, 2013, 02:43:11 PM »

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Celtics will send the Leandro Barbosa expiring contract to the Wizards for Jordan Crawford, league source tells Y! Sports.
That is fine. Make use of that dead roster spot. Crawford will be a useful fifth guard.

5th guard?  I'd say he's fourth in line, unless you think Wlliams is in front of him?

Did we just get him for Barbosa straight up?  If so, that's a steal.

Yeah, I think T-Williams is in front of him. I think his size, defense and rebounding is more important than Crawford's streaky scoring.
Williams isn't even an NBA player.  The only person he should be in front of is someone like me.

Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #47 on: February 21, 2013, 02:43:44 PM »

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Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Celtics will send the Leandro Barbosa expiring contract to the Wizards for Jordan Crawford, league source tells Y! Sports.
That is fine. Make use of that dead roster spot. Crawford will be a useful fifth guard.

5th guard?  I'd say he's fourth in line, unless you think Wlliams is in front of him?

Did we just get him for Barbosa straight up?  If so, that's a steal.

Yeah, I think T-Williams is in front of him. I think his size, defense and rebounding is more important than Crawford's streaky scoring.
Williams isn't even an NBA player.  The only person he should be in front of is someone like me.

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Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #48 on: February 21, 2013, 02:44:15 PM »

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Interesting that his actual salary does not match hi cap salary.  And interesting that his cap salary would not be the one of record for trades.

That's the case for all players with more than 2 years experience who are playing on minimum contracts.  The league subsidizes part of the salary, only counting $854k against the cap (this season).


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Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #49 on: February 21, 2013, 02:47:38 PM »

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]Interesting that his actual salary does not match hi cap salary.  And interesting that his cap salary would not be the one of record for trades.

The league reimburses teams for salary above the minimum of a two-year player so that teams don't discriminate against older players to save money.

However, the CBA FAQ states: "Teams trading away minimum-salary players do count their salaries (the portion not paid by the league -- see question number 16) as outgoing salary when comparing salaries for trade."
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Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #50 on: February 21, 2013, 02:51:47 PM »

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"Jordan Crawford is 1 of 7 players averaging 18 pts, 5 ast & 4 rebs per 36 min. (Kobe, LeBron, Wade, Harden, Westbrook, Manu)." Anybody wanna research this to see if its true.

Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #51 on: February 21, 2013, 02:53:36 PM »

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Crawford's own and opponent PER as a PG are actually very good - much better than when he's at SG.

http://www.82games.com/1213/12WAS5.HTM

If you can keep him from taking bad shots (which is more likely with the discipline of the Celtics' offense than with the Wiz), he could be pretty productive.

Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #52 on: February 21, 2013, 03:02:02 PM »

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League source said #wizards might get another player currently on BOS roster in addition to Leandro Barbosa, so...
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Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #53 on: February 21, 2013, 03:06:36 PM »

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Crawford's own and opponent PER as a PG are actually very good - much better than when he's at SG.

http://www.82games.com/1213/12WAS5.HTM

If you can keep him from taking bad shots (which is more likely with the discipline of the Celtics' offense than with the Wiz), he could be pretty productive.
I can easily see him moving into the starting lineup, where we can use one more scorer who can handle the ball.
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Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #54 on: February 21, 2013, 03:06:43 PM »

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"Jordan Crawford is 1 of 7 players averaging 18 pts, 5 ast & 4 rebs per 36 min. (Kobe, LeBron, Wade, Harden, Westbrook, Manu)." Anybody wanna research this to see if its true.

It's true, but....

Chris Paul misses by 0.3 rebounds.  John Wall misses by 0.1 points.  Stephen Curry misses by 0.1 rebounds.  Kyrie Irving misses by 0.2 rebounds.  Ramon Sessions misses by 0.1 points.  Paul Pierce misses by 0.3 assists.  Heck, Nate Robinson is short by half a rebound.

Still, being one of 23 players averaging at least 17 points, 4 assists, and 3 rebounds per 36 minutes isn't bad.
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Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #55 on: February 21, 2013, 03:15:10 PM »

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why would a bad team like the wiz just give away a guy averaging 13 ppg?

Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #56 on: February 21, 2013, 03:17:06 PM »

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An interesting deal, to say the least.

I laud Danny.
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Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #57 on: February 21, 2013, 03:19:01 PM »

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why would a bad team like the wiz just give away a guy averaging 13 ppg?
Because he causes more damage to his team than he helps them.

He is like a miniature version of Monta Ellis. Unable to play the PG position because he cannot run a team and unable to play his natural position at SG because he cannot defend opposing SGs.

Too inefficient offensively. Too vulnerable defensively. Streaky player who more often hurts his team than he helps them.

Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #58 on: February 21, 2013, 03:20:10 PM »

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Woj just reported Jason Collins is in the deal.

Hope Danny has a plan for a replacement big.
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Re: Crawford to Celtics?
« Reply #59 on: February 21, 2013, 03:21:16 PM »

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Hurray, one less big!