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What would you like to see by Thursday @ 3:01
« on: February 19, 2013, 02:46:12 PM »

Offline WeMadeIt17

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So we know the deadline is Thursday at 3. So tell me what do you want the Celtics to look like at 3:01. Or what they will look like. I hope they look something like this.

Bradley/Terry
Lee/Williams
Pierce/Williams/ Soon to be vet. pick up
Smith/Wilcox
KG/Wilcox/Collins.

Would also like to pick K-mart up in there. So tell me what do you think we look like after Thursdays deadline.



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Re: What would you like to see by Thursday @ 3:01
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2013, 02:48:43 PM »

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Really nothing, but if we can get an upgrade on Bass, I'm all for  it.

Re: What would you like to see by Thursday @ 3:01
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2013, 02:50:18 PM »

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Well I am banking on the Hawks becoming desperate to make a move. Just read on realgm that sources tell yahoo sports that Bucks intend to keep Jennings and Monta. So that probably takes another deal off the table for the Hawks.



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Billups/Pietrus/Novak/Hill/Leonard
Daniels/Gooden/Turiaf

Re: What would you like to see by Thursday @ 3:01
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2013, 02:51:13 PM »

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One or both of the following (no particular order of preference)

1. KG and Pierce shipped out for younger assets with significant future trade value.

2. Bass, Terry, Lee, and Green (any or all) traded for expirings and minor assets (late 1st or 2nd round picks, young projects on rookie deals, etc).

3. Bradley and Sullinger still on the team, except in the very unlikely scenario that they are sent out in a trade for a young player with All-Star potential (e.g. Cousins).

I'd like to see Danny make at least one or two moves that will put the team in a better position moving forward, salary-wise or roster-wise.  Both would be ideal.
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Re: What would you like to see by Thursday @ 3:01
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2013, 02:56:24 PM »

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So we know the deadline is Thursday at 3. So tell me what do you want the Celtics to look like at 3:01. Or what they will look like. I hope they look something like this.

Bradley/Terry
Lee/Williams
Pierce/Williams/ Soon to be vet. pick up
Smith/Wilcox
KG/Wilcox/Collins.

Would also like to pick K-mart up in there. So tell me what do you think we look like after Thursdays deadline.

need a big, BIGTIME. I am not crazy about smith. But it is what it is. We'll see what happens thursday.

Re: What would you like to see by Thursday @ 3:01
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2013, 02:58:34 PM »

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I want to see no major trades.  Maybe a mild deal that doesn't send out anyone in the rotation but finds an upgrade on Wilcox/Collins as a third big behind KG and Bass in the rotation.  My preference is to see those empty roster spots filled by players on ten-day contracts.
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Re: What would you like to see by Thursday @ 3:01
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2013, 03:01:09 PM »

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Really nothing, but if we can get an upgrade on Bass, I'm all for  it.
What are you going to give up to get an upgrade for Bass? Bass himself?
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Re: What would you like to see by Thursday @ 3:01
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2013, 03:06:08 PM »

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Really nothing, but if we can get an upgrade on Bass, I'm all for  it.
What are you going to give up to get an upgrade for Bass? Bass himself?

Of course. You can add Barbosa, Collins/Wilcox to the deal and a pick if needed be, and you can unburden a team from a player they might not have future plans for, but is either too costly for them at the moment, or in a bad long contract, or is expiring and they see a bit of value on retaining Bass and getting a pick for their troubles.

That said, I'm ambivalent about trading Bass at the moment. Was in a bigger "hurry" to trade him while Sully was healthy, now not so much.

Re: What would you like to see by Thursday @ 3:01
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2013, 03:07:23 PM »

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Really nothing, but if we can get an upgrade on Bass, I'm all for  it.
What are you going to give up to get an upgrade for Bass? Bass himself?

Of course. You can add Barbosa, Collins/Wilcox to the deal and a pick if needed be, and you can unburden a team from a player they might not have future plans for, but is either too costly for them at the moment, or in a bad long contract, or is expiring and they see a bit of value on retaining Bass and getting a pick for their troubles.

That said, I'm ambivalent about trading Bass at the moment. Was in a bigger "hurry" to trade him while Sully was healthy, now not so much.
How many PFs who are superior to Bass are available for that package? I'd guess none when you consider that Bass's deal has a lot of years left on it.

Re: What would you like to see by Thursday @ 3:01
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2013, 03:10:15 PM »

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Really nothing, but if we can get an upgrade on Bass, I'm all for  it.
What are you going to give up to get an upgrade for Bass? Bass himself?

Of course. You can add Barbosa, Collins/Wilcox to the deal and a pick if needed be, and you can unburden a team from a player they might not have future plans for, but is either too costly for them at the moment, or in a bad long contract, or is expiring and they see a bit of value on retaining Bass and getting a pick for their troubles.

That said, I'm ambivalent about trading Bass at the moment. Was in a bigger "hurry" to trade him while Sully was healthy, now not so much.
How many PFs who are superior to Bass are available for that package? I'd guess none when you consider that Bass's deal has a lot of years left on it.

I don't consider 2 more years "a lot of years left", and ideally "upgrade" is more of a roster notion, than a player vs. player notion. If you can grab a center of comparable talent, then that's an upgrade for the team.

It's a better fit for Green, it's a better fit for Wilcox, could potentially be a better fit for KG.

Re: What would you like to see by Thursday @ 3:01
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2013, 03:11:10 PM »

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Really nothing, but if we can get an upgrade on Bass, I'm all for  it.
What are you going to give up to get an upgrade for Bass? Bass himself?

Of course. You can add Barbosa, Collins/Wilcox to the deal and a pick if needed be, and you can unburden a team from a player they might not have future plans for, but is either too costly for them at the moment, or in a bad long contract, or is expiring and they see a bit of value on retaining Bass and getting a pick for their troubles.

That said, I'm ambivalent about trading Bass at the moment. Was in a bigger "hurry" to trade him while Sully was healthy, now not so much.
There are multiple problems with this:

(1) You can't really take in more salary than you ship out under our hard cap reality.

(2) Without adding in a rotation player, you can maybe add 1.5 million to Bass' salary (and that's a stretch).

(3) Bass is already on a long contract. He's not a fit with a team who wants to shed salary.

(4) You want the player to actually be an upgrade over Bass.

I don't see all of these happening at all, no matter how many picks you throw in.
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Re: What would you like to see by Thursday @ 3:01
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2013, 03:11:20 PM »

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Really nothing, but if we can get an upgrade on Bass, I'm all for  it.
What are you going to give up to get an upgrade for Bass? Bass himself?
I know Bass hasn't played all that well this year, so far, but I find it hard to believe you're going to get anyone better in a trade for him.

What do I want to see at 3:01 Thursday? Same team we have now with two more victories.

Later, if a serviceable big man is waived, Danny can kick the tires on him, or another guy from the D League can be signed to a 10 day. Let's make another run with this team!

Edit: But if we go the "blow it up" route...take no prisoners. Go all the way!

Trade everybody for rookie contracts and draft picks...*everybody!* Nobody left on the active roster who is a veteran at all! Take no prisoners, make no exceptions, a complete and utter rebuild. Rondo and Sully are not on the active roster, Melo and Bradley are still on rookie contracts. Some of them may stay, or not, depending upon whoever is left in charge's judgement of their future growth and development. Stock the team with D Leaguers. Don't win another game this year...and not more than 10 next year, and probably not more than 12 the next. Pray to lottery balls.

Oh, and to keep him from dropping dead on you, give Doc a two year leave of absence...or just fire him. Let's see, Wyc should then fire Danny as his last act before selling his interest in the team to Bill Simmons for a buck.

Yeah, that would be the "blow it up" route!
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Re: What would you like to see by Thursday @ 3:01
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2013, 03:14:11 PM »

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Really nothing, but if we can get an upgrade on Bass, I'm all for  it.
What are you going to give up to get an upgrade for Bass? Bass himself?

Of course. You can add Barbosa, Collins/Wilcox to the deal and a pick if needed be, and you can unburden a team from a player they might not have future plans for, but is either too costly for them at the moment, or in a bad long contract, or is expiring and they see a bit of value on retaining Bass and getting a pick for their troubles.

That said, I'm ambivalent about trading Bass at the moment. Was in a bigger "hurry" to trade him while Sully was healthy, now not so much.
There are multiple problems with this:

(1) You can't really take in more salary than you ship out under our hard cap reality.

(2) Without adding in a rotation player, you can maybe add 1.5 million to Bass' salary (and that's a stretch).

(3) Bass is already on a long contract. He's not a fit with a team who wants to shed salary.

(4) You want the player to actually be an upgrade over Bass.

I don't see all of these happening at all, no matter how many picks you throw in.

1) That's why you include Barbosa and/or Collins/Wilcox

2) See above

3) 2 more season beyond this one is not a long contract. Shedding salary is not the sole motivator, I enumerated a couple of possibilities for the interest.

4) See my post above replying to Fafnir.


Re: What would you like to see by Thursday @ 3:01
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2013, 03:14:11 PM »

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I don't consider 2 more years "a lot of years left", and ideally "upgrade" is more of a roster notion, than a player vs. player notion. If you can grab a center of comparable talent, then that's an upgrade for the team.
You swap your starting PF for a backup C and that's a roster upgrade? Because Garnett isn't going back to PF, and you're still one big man short even after this swap.
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Re: What would you like to see by Thursday @ 3:01
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2013, 03:16:01 PM »

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I don't consider 2 more years "a lot of years left", and ideally "upgrade" is more of a roster notion, than a player vs. player notion. If you can grab a center of comparable talent, then that's an upgrade for the team.
You swap your starting PF for a backup C and that's a roster upgrade? Because Garnett isn't going back to PF, and you're still one big man short even after this swap.

What?

There are plenty of PF/C types, or at least PF with more length than Bass. And KG can very well move to PF if needed be. Don't see the problem with that at all.

 

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