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Not sure who the guy is, but they have had him on sports center before, and he is a former memphis GM I believe.

He was saying a trade of

Bos sends: KG
LAC send : Bledsoe, Odom ( exiring) and a 1st

makes more sense because Bledsoe is the key guy that Boston wants, and they don't get Jordans big contract, instead an expiring and a pick.

I was thinking what if you expanded it to do a 3 way where the c's would get Josh Smith

Bos sends: KG and 1st rd pick
Bos gets : Josh Smith and Bledsoe


Lac sends: Bledsoe, Odom and 1st rd pick
Lac gets : KG

Atlanta sends: Josh Smith
Atlanta gets : Odom(expiring), bos 1st rd pick, clipers 1st rd pick

Bos gets two young building blocks
Clippers get kg and keep Jordan
Atlanta clears cap space and picks up two first round picks

Re: Former NBA GM Says to replace Joran with Odom's expiring in a KG deal
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2013, 12:28:55 PM »

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Boston can always trade D.Jordan for an expiring + additional assets in a subsequent move.

Take D.Jordan.

Re: Former NBA GM Says to replace Joran with Odom's expiring in a KG deal
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2013, 12:30:39 PM »

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Boston can always trade D.Jordan for an expiring + additional assets in a subsequent move.

Take D.Jordan.

Yeah, I would think that Jordan has some value in a 3-way. 


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Re: Former NBA GM Says to replace Jordan with Odom's expiring in a KG deal
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Not sure who the guy is, but they have had him on sports center before, and he is a former memphis GM I believe.

He was saying a trade of

Bos sends: KG
LAC send : Bledsoe, Odom ( exiring) and a 1st

makes more sense because Bledsoe is the key guy that Boston wants, and they don't get Jordans big contract, instead an expiring and a pick.

I was thinking what if you expanded it to do a 3 way where the c's would get Josh Smith

Bos sends: KG and 1st rd pick
Bos gets : Josh Smith and Bledsoe


Lac sends: Bledsoe, Odom and 1st rd pick
Lac gets : KG

Atlanta sends: Josh Smith
Atlanta gets : Odom(expiring), bos 1st rd pick, clipers 1st rd pick

Bos gets two young building blocks
Clippers get kg and keep Jordan
Atlanta clears cap space and picks up two first round picks

I'm almost 100% certain this deal as constructed would put us over the hard cap.  I don't think including an injured Barbosa would help enough, either, but it would get us closer.

Also, KG's contract can only bring back 14,557,831 in salary.  Bledsoe+Smith is $14.9 mil.  That could, however, be fixed by including Barbosa.

Re: Former NBA GM Says to replace Joran with Odom's expiring in a KG deal
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Boston can always trade D.Jordan for an expiring + additional assets in a subsequent move.

Take D.Jordan.

Yeah, I would think that Jordan has some value in a 3-way.
A deal including Jordan was bad (mostly because of Jordan's contract). A deal including Odom is worse.
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Re: Former NBA GM Says to replace Joran with Odom's expiring in a KG deal
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Boston can always trade D.Jordan for an expiring + additional assets in a subsequent move.

Take D.Jordan.

Yeah, I would think that Jordan has some value in a 3-way.
Only reason to do that instead of Jordan is if Danny is convinced he can get enough cap room to get an impact FA this coming offseason. Otherwise why not take Jordan?

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Re: Former NBA GM Says to replace Joran with Odom's expiring in a KG deal
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Boston can always trade D.Jordan for an expiring + additional assets in a subsequent move.

Take D.Jordan.

Yeah, I would think that Jordan has some value in a 3-way.
Only reason to do that instead of Jordan is if Danny is convinced he can get enough cap room to get an impact FA this coming offseason. Otherwise why not take Jordan?

Maybe the Clips won't give them both up....
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Re: Former NBA GM Says to replace Jordan with Odom's expiring in a KG deal
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Really don't want to trade KG just for an expiring. I think Danny knows its harder to sell players on us rather than getting talent from a trade. There is no guarantee that we sign good FA's with the cap space. So no thanks. Rather ride it out or get Deandre and get Bledsoe.

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Re: Former NBA GM Says to replace Joran with Odom's expiring in a KG deal
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Boston can always trade D.Jordan for an expiring + additional assets in a subsequent move.

Take D.Jordan.

Yeah, I would think that Jordan has some value in a 3-way.
A deal including Jordan was bad (mostly because of Jordan's contract). A deal including Odom is worse.

I'm pretty sure everyone agrees that trading KG for Bledsoe/Odom is a non-starter, even with a 1st thrown in.

Mike

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Boston can always trade D.Jordan for an expiring + additional assets in a subsequent move.

Take D.Jordan.

Yeah, I would think that Jordan has some value in a 3-way.
A deal including Jordan was bad (mostly because of Jordan's contract). A deal including Odom is worse.

I don't know.  To me it would depend on how many picks the Clippers are willing to send along if Odom was included instead of Jordan, especially if a first rounder was for 2014.  Also, it could depend what else you're trading.  If Pierce is also heading out (which seems likely in a universe where KG is traded), and you're also able to clear out Bass and Terry, for primarily players on rookie deals, expirings, and draft picks, you could create enough flexibility next off-season to make a run at a major free agent.  In that case, Jordan's contract would definitely be a drag, because then you have to get involved with sign-and-trades, instead of just getting the player directly from free agency.  That first bit of expiring contract isn't very valuable at all from the Celtics vantage point, but if combined with other deals, could become quite valuable indeed.

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Boston can always trade D.Jordan for an expiring + additional assets in a subsequent move.

Take D.Jordan.

Yeah, I would think that Jordan has some value in a 3-way.
Only reason to do that instead of Jordan is if Danny is convinced he can get enough cap room to get an impact FA this coming offseason. Otherwise why not take Jordan?

Maybe the Clips won't give them both up....
Then you hang up on them. We're not getting a high enough lottery pick to be worth tanking at this point.

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Boston can always trade D.Jordan for an expiring + additional assets in a subsequent move.

Take D.Jordan.

Yeah, I would think that Jordan has some value in a 3-way.
That's what She said Roy!!  ;)

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Boston can always trade D.Jordan for an expiring + additional assets in a subsequent move.

Take D.Jordan.

Yeah, I would think that Jordan has some value in a 3-way.
A deal including Jordan was bad (mostly because of Jordan's contract). A deal including Odom is worse.

I don't know.  To me it would depend on how many picks the Clippers are willing to send along if Odom was included instead of Jordan, especially if a first rounder was for 2014.  Also, it could depend what else you're trading.  If Pierce is also heading out (which seems likely in a universe where KG is traded), and you're also able to clear out Bass and Terry, for primarily players on rookie deals, expirings, and draft picks, you could create enough flexibility next off-season to make a run at a major free agent.  In that case, Jordan's contract would definitely be a drag, because then you have to get involved with sign-and-trades, instead of just getting the player directly from free agency.  That first bit of expiring contract isn't very valuable at all from the Celtics vantage point, but if combined with other deals, could become quite valuable indeed.
A Clippers pick is worth next to nothing, given that it's unlikely to be better than the mid 20s.

Also, I'm not sure where you're going with 30+ million committed to Rondo, Green and Jordan. You can't just "clear everyone off the books", you have cap holds, and someone has to actually suit up for the games.

It's just not going to work this way.
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