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Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
« Reply #255 on: February 19, 2013, 05:07:43 PM »

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PG:
SG: Oj Mayo
SF: Nic Batum
PF: Paul Milsap
C:  Nikola Vucevic

I think Milsap+Vucevic=Love.

I think Batum is a good player that has likely reached his ceiling, which is a very good player, but not a top 2 player for a playoff team.

OJ Mayo I think is fools gold. Reminds me of another (undrafted) player who had a bad reputation but a great scouting report that gets handed minutes in bunches and bunches on a bad, desperate team, and puts up 20ppg and looks good doing it for at least half of those. But on a playoff team, he couldn't handle playing well with others, and couldn't tailor his game to play within the team's concept.

So yeah. OJ Mayo, not really a fan of him. He's on my 'do not draft' list.

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Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
« Reply #256 on: February 19, 2013, 05:09:33 PM »

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PG - S. Nash
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I recently realized keeping West and searching for a Hibbert replacement was probably the ideal way to go.

Tough to find those thriple threat big men who can post-up/d-up/and rebound.

I absolutely love this team, so much fun.

Personally, I don't think Nash is cooked as much as he's not surrounded by the right guy. D'Antoni or not, he just can't run with this current cast and I think that's why he's resided to being more of a Hornacek 2-guard.

Also, I think Hibbert's a mental midget - but I think having Nash is a good thing for him. I think one of the worst things the Pacers do is force the ball into him in the post when he's just not that gifted offensively. Having Nash run the offense means that this is less likely to happen and things can come a little more naturally to him.
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Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
« Reply #257 on: February 19, 2013, 05:10:12 PM »

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I laugh at the people who said getting Crawford at 2.5 a reach: your 6th man of the year, crazy crossovers



i dont have the flashy names but with Crawford driving to the basket, Jrue throwing alley-oops to McGee and Smith and Martin hitting the outside shot i have a pretty solid team and Crawford has had no problems with the Clips if anything all he's been getting is high praise :)

Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
« Reply #258 on: February 19, 2013, 05:12:17 PM »

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Actual rebound rates, via hollinger, copied below-

Rajon Rondo (8.8)
Tyreke Evans (8.8)
Ersan Ilvasova (13.2)
Kenneth Faried (18.3)
Anderson Varejao (23.1)

Greivis Vasquez (8.0)
Klay Thompson (6.1)
Jeff Green (7.9)
Zach Randolph (19.5)
Omer Asik (21.8)

Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
« Reply #259 on: February 19, 2013, 05:12:27 PM »

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I laugh at the people who said getting Crawford at 2.5 a reach: your 6th man of the year, crazy crossovers



i dont have the flashy names but with Crawford driving to the basket, Jrue throwing alley-oops to McGee and Smith and Martin hitting the outside shot i have a pretty solid team and Crawford has had no problems with the Clips if anything all he's been getting is high praise :)

His shot selection and BBIQ overall is pretty bad.
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Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
« Reply #260 on: February 19, 2013, 05:13:10 PM »

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Actual rebound rates, via hollinger, copied below-

Rajon Rondo (8.8)
Tyreke Evans (8.8)
Ersan Ilvasova (13.2)
Kenneth Faried (18.3)
Anderson Varejao (23.1)

Greivis Vasquez (8.0)
Klay Thompson (6.1)
Jeff Green (7.9)
Zach Randolph (19.5)
Omer Asik (21.8)

None of this matters if you're injured and can't play (40% of your team) >:D You shalt not stop my path to the championship! (this year)
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Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
« Reply #261 on: February 19, 2013, 05:14:01 PM »

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I laugh at the people who said getting Crawford at 2.5 a reach: your 6th man of the year, crazy crossovers



i dont have the flashy names but with Crawford driving to the basket, Jrue throwing alley-oops to McGee and Smith and Martin hitting the outside shot i have a pretty solid team and Crawford has had no problems with the Clips if anything all he's been getting is high praise :)

Crawford is good at what he does.  However I don't rate what he does something I would want to take at 2.5
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Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
« Reply #262 on: February 19, 2013, 05:14:25 PM »

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Did you hear about what happened to all the rebounds?

my team got them.

My team has more! And we're actually all healthy! ;D

I'll concede the healthy part, but not the rebound part. I think I've got you beat at every position except PF.

Rajon Rondo (5.5)
Tyreke Evans (5)
Ersan Ilvasova (6)
Kenneth Faried (10)
Anderson Varejao (14)

Greivis Vasquez (4.5)
Klay Thompson (4)
Jeff Green (5.5)
Zach Randolph (11.5)
Omer Asik (11.5)

You win by a slim margin, but if Anderson's injured he can't get any rebounds! (0) And Rondo's out too, so he might as well get a (0) as well >:D

What crazy kooky universe occurs where Jeff Green is getting 5.5 rebounds per?

His career average is 5.2 and he had 6.7 one year...
Once again you are underestimating "Mean Green"
I was being conservative!

Haha...he was playing 37 minutes a game at the power forward and giving up twice as many points as he scored! I don't think that's the El Jefe you're imagining, is it?

He is much improved now and if he doesn't get them Omolph Zasik will get them.

Jeff is even getting 4.8 per36 right now, with the Celtics!

4.8 rebounds per 36 minutes: Career worst for Jeff Green

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Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
« Reply #263 on: February 19, 2013, 05:14:42 PM »

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Actual rebound rates, via hollinger, copied below-

Rajon Rondo (8.8)
Tyreke Evans (8.8)
Ersan Ilvasova (13.2)
Kenneth Faried (18.3)
Anderson Varejao (23.1)

Greivis Vasquez (8.0)
Klay Thompson (6.1)
Jeff Green (7.9)
Zach Randolph (19.5)
Omer Asik (21.8)

Looks like a lot of guys who are happy to rebound the ball.
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Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
« Reply #264 on: February 19, 2013, 05:15:55 PM »

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I laugh at the people who said getting Crawford at 2.5 a reach: your 6th man of the year, crazy crossovers



i dont have the flashy names but with Crawford driving to the basket, Jrue throwing alley-oops to McGee and Smith and Martin hitting the outside shot i have a pretty solid team and Crawford has had no problems with the Clips if anything all he's been getting is high praise :)

Crawford is good at what he does.  However I don't rate what he does something I would want to take at 2.5

A third round pick or even late second.

I was surprised to see him go high second round.

Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
« Reply #265 on: February 19, 2013, 05:17:16 PM »

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I laugh at the people who said getting Crawford at 2.5 a reach: your 6th man of the year, crazy crossovers



i dont have the flashy names but with Crawford driving to the basket, Jrue throwing alley-oops to McGee and Smith and Martin hitting the outside shot i have a pretty solid team and Crawford has had no problems with the Clips if anything all he's been getting is high praise :)

Crawford is good at what he does.  However I don't rate what he does something I would want to take at 2.5

he is the 3rd option for the Clips behind Paul and Griffin respectively you got Granger at the first round who is coming off an injury and will be the second option and maybe maybe he will put numbers like Jamal

Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
« Reply #266 on: February 19, 2013, 05:17:23 PM »

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PG:
SG: Oj Mayo
SF: Nic Batum
PF: Paul Milsap
C:  Nikola Vucevic

I think Milsap+Vucevic=Love.

I think Batum is a good player that has likely reached his ceiling, which is a very good player, but not a top 2 player for a playoff team.


I've been a big Batum supporter for a few years, count me into the camp that thinks he still has growth.  He's been playing the majority of this season with a right wrist injury.  Severely hampering his shot but forcing him to playmake more.

I think, given some time to heal in the offseason, he'll be back to what he was earlier this year.



Also, I think Hibbert's a mental midget - but I think having Nash is a good thing for him. I think one of the worst things the Pacers do is force the ball into him in the post when he's just not that gifted offensively.

Yeah I just don't really get Roy Hibbert.  You'd think that a guy who is so adept defensively would have a bit more basketball savvy in him offensively.  Nash should at least help him get that turrible FG% up to a respectable number.

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Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
« Reply #267 on: February 19, 2013, 05:17:48 PM »

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Did you hear about what happened to all the rebounds?

my team got them.

My team has more! And we're actually all healthy! ;D

I'll concede the healthy part, but not the rebound part. I think I've got you beat at every position except PF.

Rajon Rondo (5.5)
Tyreke Evans (5)
Ersan Ilvasova (6)
Kenneth Faried (10)
Anderson Varejao (14)

Greivis Vasquez (4.5)
Klay Thompson (4)
Jeff Green (5.5)
Zach Randolph (11.5)
Omer Asik (11.5)

You win by a slim margin, but if Anderson's injured he can't get any rebounds! (0) And Rondo's out too, so he might as well get a (0) as well >:D

What crazy kooky universe occurs where Jeff Green is getting 5.5 rebounds per?

His career average is 5.2 and he had 6.7 one year...
Once again you are underestimating "Mean Green"
I was being conservative!

Haha...he was playing 37 minutes a game at the power forward and giving up twice as many points as he scored! I don't think that's the El Jefe you're imagining, is it?

He is much improved now and if he doesn't get them Omolph Zasik will get them.

Jeff is even getting 4.8 per36 right now, with the Celtics!

4.8 rebounds per 36 minutes: Career worst for Jeff Green

He had 6.1 per 36 minutes in his rookie season, as a SF.
I don't consider anything he did as a PF very important since he will never play SF on this team.
And his stats in Boston are pretty flawed with a slower pace, no offensive boards etc.

In his years at OKC he had: 5.4, 5.8, 6.1, 6.5
That's pretty good.

And at the guy who brought up Rebound Rate, you'd have to look at his rates from only OKC, or as a SF. When he's a PF, it tells a way different story.
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Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
« Reply #268 on: February 19, 2013, 05:18:23 PM »

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Actual rebound rates, via hollinger, copied below-

Rajon Rondo (8.8)
Tyreke Evans (8.8)
Ersan Ilvasova (13.2)
Kenneth Faried (18.3)
Anderson Varejao (23.1)

Greivis Vasquez (8.0)
Klay Thompson (6.1)
Jeff Green (7.9)
Zach Randolph (19.5)
Omer Asik (21.8)

Looks like a lot of guys who are happy to rebound the ball.

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Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
« Reply #269 on: February 19, 2013, 05:18:45 PM »

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Rajon Rondo (8.8)
Tyreke Evans (8.8)
Ersan Ilvasova (13.2)
Kenneth Faried (18.3)
Anderson Varejao (23.1)

Question: What percent of the available minutes has Ersan Ilyasova played at the small forward position in the last 2 seasons, despite a desperate need from the Bucks for a guy to produce there?

0% He has played 0% of the minutes there. Don't think its tenable here, at least for me.

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