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Re: If KG is traded, does that mean Pierce will be too? And if so, where?
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2013, 03:03:44 PM »

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I don't think Ainge is doing much exploring, I think there's a lot of interest out there for KG, and they're making calls to Ainge, and as he's always said, he's open to hearing all types of proposals... but I don't think for a second Ainge is out there looking to trade KG.

Why? Ainge is notorious for being one of the most active GMs in the market, and it's documented that Ainge has seriously considered trading Rondo, Pierce and Ray Allen throughout the current 'window', including at least one deal for each in the last year.

I don't buy for a second that Ainge sits back and listens to offers like a mafia don without proactively engaging his peers. He tests the value of his players consistently, and admits it.

Difference is that he didn't have KG signed for 3 years. Not only does he currently have KG signed for that, he also has a good group of people signed for that length. This isn't a one year window as many of you like to believe.

We struggled coming out of the gates, but I don't see Ainge in any hurry to destroy our chances in our next few seasons by doing bad moves that would probably still be on the table beyond this season.

I hear you, but I don't think this is accurate. Here's why:

1) There's a strong chance that the Celtics will not keep Pierce's contract for next year if they don't believe the team is a true contender;

2) KG is not guaranteed to play out his deal. "Y'all don't know what I know", for example. Rivers said recently he believes KG's at the point where he considers whether to continue every summer.

3) Rondo's injury is a major blow to Father Time's window for KG and PP.

I'm not claiming that Ainge has given up on this team, but his history speaks to the fact that he's not sitting back idly. Again, even if Olshey picked up the phone first, I don't buy for a second that Ainge isn't pushing him to see what he can get from them before considering the value to the Cs, and whether to pull the trigger.

Re: If KG is traded, does that mean Pierce will be too? And if so, where?
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2013, 03:05:50 PM »

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I don't think Ainge is doing much exploring, I think there's a lot of interest out there for KG, and they're making calls to Ainge, and as he's always said, he's open to hearing all types of proposals... but I don't think for a second Ainge is out there looking to trade KG.

Why? Ainge is notorious for being one of the most active GMs in the market, and it's documented that Ainge has seriously considered trading Rondo, Pierce and Ray Allen throughout the current 'window', including at least one deal for each in the last year.

I don't buy for a second that Ainge sits back and listens to offers like a mafia don without proactively engaging his peers. He tests the value of his players consistently, and admits it.

Difference is that he didn't have KG signed for 3 years. Not only does he currently have KG signed for that, he also has a good group of people signed for that length. This isn't a one year window as many of you like to believe.

We struggled coming out of the gates, but I don't see Ainge in any hurry to destroy our chances in our next few seasons by doing bad moves that would probably still be on the table beyond this season.

I hear you, but I don't think this is accurate. Here's why:

1) There's a strong chance that the Celtics will not keep Pierce's contract for next year if they don't believe the team is a true contender;

2) KG is not guaranteed to play out his deal. "Y'all don't know what I know", for example. Rivers said recently he believes KG's at the point where he considers whether to continue every summer.

3) Rondo's injury is a major blow to Father Time's window for KG and PP.

I'm not claiming that Ainge has given up on this team, but his history speaks to the fact that he's not sitting back idly. Again, even if Olshey picked up the phone first, I don't buy for a second that Ainge isn't pushing him to see what he can get from them before considering the value to the Cs, and whether to pull the trigger.

Olshey? Are we going for Hickson? Where did Olshey come from?
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Re: If KG is traded, does that mean Pierce will be too? And if so, where?
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2013, 03:48:36 PM »

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Whoever took over for Olshey this summer....

Re: If KG is traded, does that mean Pierce will be too? And if so, where?
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2013, 03:54:59 PM »

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In the unlikely event KG is traded, I think Ainge will have a deal in place for Pierce before pulling the trigger and going into a Control Alt Delete for the Celtics. Short of picking up Durant or Lebron James, we would be back into full rebuild mode and rely on the draft for getting super star power. That is a recipe for failure for Eighty pwrcent of the teams.
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Re: If KG is traded, does that mean Pierce will be too? And if so, where?
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2013, 05:07:20 PM »

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If one goes I think both will, if Danny really wanted to do a KG deal, he would trade PP first IMO, that would be enough for KG to sign off on a trade he thought was good for him.

Re: If KG is traded, does that mean Pierce will be too? And if so, where?
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2013, 05:23:10 PM »

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I think the Spurs make the most sense.

Something like this would seemingly work for both teams

Pierce

for

Leonard, Jackson, and Green or Bonner or Diaw or Blair + filler

Gives Boston a nice young prospect in Leonard plus some other parts and gives San Antonio another weapon in the starting unit that fits in age wise with TD and Manu.  Other players could be added from both teams, like say Terry and/or Bass as more of the San An players listed above are added.

That trade makes no sense.  I get the feeling that the Spurs view Leonard as more important to their plans after Duncan is gone than Rondo was ever seen in a post-KG era.
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Re: If KG is traded, does that mean Pierce will be too? And if so, where?
« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2013, 05:23:39 PM »

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Whoever took over for Olshey this summer....

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Re: If KG is traded, does that mean Pierce will be too? And if so, where?
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2013, 05:46:59 PM »

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I'm convinced KG doesn't waive his no-trade unless there's a trade for Pierce lined up (or Pierce has been traded already).
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Re: If KG is traded, does that mean Pierce will be too? And if so, where?
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2013, 05:50:52 PM »

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neither are going,  makes , KG rocks they know that, but won't trade equal players.

how about selling the Celtics Blake to go along with Rondo, then maybe I'll talk..........clippers are full of dung.

Re: If KG is traded, does that mean Pierce will be too? And if so, where?
« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2013, 06:34:30 PM »

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I think the Spurs make the most sense.

Something like this would seemingly work for both teams

Pierce

for

Leonard, Jackson, and Green or Bonner or Diaw or Blair + filler

Gives Boston a nice young prospect in Leonard plus some other parts and gives San Antonio another weapon in the starting unit that fits in age wise with TD and Manu.  Other players could be added from both teams, like say Terry and/or Bass as more of the San An players listed above are added.

That trade makes no sense.  I get the feeling that the Spurs view Leonard as more important to their plans after Duncan is gone than Rondo was ever seen in a post-KG era.

Agreed. Spurs aren't trading Leonard.

 

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