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Re: Spears and Wojo confirm Celtics and Clippers talking KG
« Reply #225 on: February 17, 2013, 09:30:14 PM »

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Bledsoe is a very valuable young guard who many believe will be a star PG.

What is this based upon, I wonder?  Bledsoe is a pretty poor shooter, and his assist rate is pretty bad.

Let's see if you still believe this statement a year from now.

Do you disagree that to date, he's been a poor shooter and passer?

"Wait and see" isn't a great reason to make a trade, in my mind.  I think asking somebody to justify why Bledsoe is going to be a "star PG" is a fair question.

  He's a decent scorer, not a great pg, but there are a lot of players like that in the league.

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« Reply #226 on: February 17, 2013, 09:48:14 PM »

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Bledsoe is a very valuable young guard who many believe will be a star PG.

What is this based upon, I wonder?  Bledsoe is a pretty poor shooter, and his assist rate is pretty bad.

Let's see if you still believe this statement a year from now.

Do you disagree that to date, he's been a poor shooter and passer?

"Wait and see" isn't a great reason to make a trade, in my mind.  I think asking somebody to justify why Bledsoe is going to be a "star PG" is a fair question.

  He's a decent scorer, not a great pg, but there are a lot of players like that in the league.

Plus, next year we'll potentially have Rondo, Bradley, Terry, Lee, and Bledsoe for guards.  That's way too many, and only two of those are consistent outside shooters.

I don't like the Jordan and Bledsoe package at all.  I'd rather keep KG.

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« Reply #227 on: February 17, 2013, 09:52:06 PM »

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Plus, next year we'll potentially have Rondo, Bradley, Terry, Lee, and Bledsoe for guards.  That's way too many, and only two of those are consistent outside shooters.

No team with five capable guards on it roster could ever run into a situation where they have a guard shortage.
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« Reply #228 on: February 17, 2013, 09:56:14 PM »

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Plus, next year we'll potentially have Rondo, Bradley, Terry, Lee, and Bledsoe for guards.  That's way too many, and only two of those are consistent outside shooters.

No team with five capable guards on it roster could ever run into a situation where they have a guard shortage.

*ahem*

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Rondo, Bradley, Terry, Lee, Barbosa

Rondo and Barbosa tear ACL

Bradley, Terry, Lee

It's happened.  And it sucks.

Re: Spears and Wojo confirm Celtics and Clippers talking KG
« Reply #229 on: February 17, 2013, 10:06:30 PM »

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And it's why potentially having Rondo, Bradley, Terry, Lee, and Bledsoe for guards shouldn't be described as "way too many".
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« Reply #230 on: February 17, 2013, 10:09:41 PM »

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I don't like the Jordan and Bledsoe package at all.  I'd rather keep KG.

Even if he retires?   Then we have nothing to show for him.  We are not winning it this year.

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« Reply #231 on: February 17, 2013, 10:09:42 PM »

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And it's why potentially having Rondo, Bradley, Terry, Lee, and Bledsoe for guards shouldn't be described as "way too many".

Sorry, I should have clarified.

Too many 'guards who need more than a DNP CD.'

Barbosa's play after Rondo's injury showed that Doc just didn't have enough minutes to hand out.

There's nothing wrong with having five guards, but three, MAYBE four, should be earning minutes, barring an injury.


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« Reply #232 on: February 17, 2013, 10:11:15 PM »

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I don't like the Jordan and Bledsoe package at all.  I'd rather keep KG.

Even if he retires?   Then we have nothing to show for him.  We are not winning it this year.

I understand that, but I love KG so much I'd love to see him retire in green, even if it hurts the team long-term.  Same for Pierce, too.

Please let me be a selfish fan.

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« Reply #233 on: February 17, 2013, 10:13:23 PM »

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I don't like the Jordan and Bledsoe package at all.  I'd rather keep KG.

Even if he retires?   Then we have nothing to show for him.  We are not winning it this year.

I understand that, but I love KG so much I'd love to see him retire in green, even if it hurts the team long-term.  Same for Pierce, too.

Please let me be a selfish fan.

I agree. I'd rather lose games than lose KG/Pierce
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Re: Spears and Wojo confirm Celtics and Clippers talking KG
« Reply #234 on: February 17, 2013, 10:28:09 PM »

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I agree. I'd rather lose games than lose KG/Pierce

Either way, a rebuild means losing games, this year or next year....

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« Reply #235 on: February 17, 2013, 10:35:30 PM »

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Bledsoe was never on the table according to clippers management.

Noone has given me any reason to believe that trading KG for deandre jordan this year would assist in the rebuild either.


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« Reply #236 on: February 17, 2013, 11:47:47 PM »

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I don't like the Jordan and Bledsoe package at all.  I'd rather keep KG.

Even if he retires?   Then we have nothing to show for him.  We are not winning it this year.
Even if he retires. Not interested in Jordan's contract.

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« Reply #237 on: February 18, 2013, 12:04:28 PM »

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I think it the Clipper management bothering Danny Ainge to make this deal. I certainly do not advocate trading KG for Eric Bledsoe and Deandre Jordan.
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« Reply #238 on: February 18, 2013, 01:14:02 PM »

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On DeAndre Jordan: He is an excellent rebounder, defender, shot blocker and athlete to boot. I chuckle at the folks who say his only offensive ability is to throw down lobs...as if that's an easy offensive ability that should be dismissed outright.

Bledsoe can get to the rim at will, is a good defender and has improved his shooting.

People understand that this team isn't going anywhere right now? And doesn't have many, if any, trade pieces?


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« Reply #239 on: February 18, 2013, 01:16:00 PM »

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On DeAndre Jordan: He is an excellent rebounder, defender, shot blocker and athlete to boot. I chuckle at the folks who say his only offensive ability is to throw down lobs...as if that's an easy offensive ability that should be dismissed outright.

Bledsoe can get to the rim at will, is a good defender and has improved his shooting.

People understand that this team isn't going anywhere right now? And doesn't have many, if any, trade pieces?
The issue is that he's not a great defender, and offensively he is rather limited. This is why his minutes are so limited and why people are hesisitant to trade for him.