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« Reply #180 on: February 17, 2013, 11:28:17 AM »

Otherwise, it's a no brainer. 

Not really.  Some of us don't want to see the Celtics spend over 1/6th of their cap on a player as limited as DeAndre Jordan.

He's only signed for two years after this one.  Next year is a rebuilding effort and then he's a 26 year old center on an $11 mil expiring contract - very easy to move.

So we'd be trading KG for a guy whose biggest contribution may eventually be as an expiring contract?

Doesn't that make you realize why people aren't impressed with this rumor?

That why you then flip jordan and rondo for dwight, gives LA a all-star pg and a starting center (both Rondo and Jordan expire the same year as kobe)

C's end up with bledsoe and howard

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« Reply #181 on: February 17, 2013, 11:43:21 AM »

Idk which move is the right move, but the people who say "get a few more pieces. " need to consider we've been doing that the last few years and have 0 titles to show for it.
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« Reply #182 on: February 17, 2013, 11:48:18 AM »

Idk which move is the right move, but the people who say "get a few more pieces. " need to consider we've been doing that the last few years and have 0 titles to show for it.

   There's no guarantees in life. I don't think there's been a year since 2008 where we didn't have a decent chance at a title if we were healthy. You can't ask for anything more than that.
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« Reply #183 on: February 17, 2013, 12:11:47 PM »

Otherwise, it's a no brainer. 

Not really.  Some of us don't want to see the Celtics spend over 1/6th of their cap on a player as limited as DeAndre Jordan.

He's only signed for two years after this one.  Next year is a rebuilding effort and then he's a 26 year old center on an $11 mil expiring contract - very easy to move.

So we'd be trading KG for a guy whose biggest contribution may eventually be as an expiring contract?

Doesn't that make you realize why people aren't impressed with this rumor?

Your objection was that he would take up 1/6 of the cap - my point was that wasn't really much of a problem considering our likely position next year and his contract's easy mobility afterward. 

A young center on a deal that shouldn't cause us any problems and a rookie contract guard prospect that we can either keep (and trade Rondo or Bradley) or swap for a lotto pick - that's a pretty useful deal for a team that needs to start accumulating assets.

These are the kind of deals that make sense when you are entering a rebuild.  Young assets that can be developed or moved for other assets.  And if we get bad enough in the interim to a get a better pick all the better.


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« Reply #184 on: February 17, 2013, 12:19:58 PM »

I am starting to get the gut feeling that all these "rumors" are a bunch of hogwash.

Don't be surprised if come midnight on February 22, the roster is identical to the way it is now.

Not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but it's probably what it will be.

Next we are going to hear that Lebron will dealt here for Wilcox.
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« Reply #185 on: February 17, 2013, 12:28:10 PM »

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« Reply #186 on: February 17, 2013, 12:33:27 PM »

Otherwise, it's a no brainer. 

Not really.  Some of us don't want to see the Celtics spend over 1/6th of their cap on a player as limited as DeAndre Jordan.

He's only signed for two years after this one.  Next year is a rebuilding effort and then he's a 26 year old center on an $11 mil expiring contract - very easy to move.

So we'd be trading KG for a guy whose biggest contribution may eventually be as an expiring contract?

Doesn't that make you realize why people aren't impressed with this rumor?

That why you then flip jordan and rondo for dwight, gives LA a all-star pg and a starting center (both Rondo and Jordan expire the same year as kobe)

C's end up with bledsoe and howard

You do realize that trading KG, just so you can flip Rondo and Jordan for Howard is one of the most terrible trade ideas I've ever seen?
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« Reply #187 on: February 17, 2013, 12:40:33 PM »

Otherwise, it's a no brainer. 

Not really.  Some of us don't want to see the Celtics spend over 1/6th of their cap on a player as limited as DeAndre Jordan.

He's only signed for two years after this one.  Next year is a rebuilding effort and then he's a 26 year old center on an $11 mil expiring contract - very easy to move.

So we'd be trading KG for a guy whose biggest contribution may eventually be as an expiring contract?

Doesn't that make you realize why people aren't impressed with this rumor?

That why you then flip jordan and rondo for dwight, gives LA a all-star pg and a starting center (both Rondo and Jordan expire the same year as kobe)

C's end up with bledsoe and howard

You do realize that trading KG, just so you can flip Rondo and Jordan for Howard is one of the most terrible trade ideas I've ever seen?

It's not that it's the worst ever, it's just that isn't necessary to give up so much. Honestly, you may be able to get Howard in a three-way deal with Bledsoe and Jordan going to LAL and Garnett going to LAC - no way am I giving up Rondo and Jordan for Howard - his value is as low as it is ever going to get...
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« Reply #188 on: February 17, 2013, 01:00:37 PM »

How do you not do this deal? The Celtics team is not contending. Eric Bledsoe and DeAndre Jordan are excellent young prospects - and you are trading a declining 36 year old who is going to retire soon. We haven't been true contenders for the last two years.

Did someone in this thread say Bledsoe can't shoot? He's shooting 43% from 3.


Did someone also say Jordan is a below average center? He's 24 years old and has an almost 17 PER and is only getting better.

I really don't want to watch this team be mediocre (as it has been this year) for the next couple years.
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« Reply #189 on: February 17, 2013, 01:16:49 PM »

How do you not do this deal? The Celtics team is not contending. Eric Bledsoe and DeAndre Jordan are excellent young prospects - and you are trading a declining 36 year old who is going to retire soon. We haven't been true contenders for the last two years.

Did someone in this thread say Bledsoe can't shoot? He's shooting 43% from 3.


Did someone also say Jordan is a below average center? He's 24 years old and has an almost 17 PER and is only getting better.

I really don't want to watch this team be mediocre (as it has been this year) for the next couple years.
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« Reply #190 on: February 17, 2013, 01:17:18 PM »

How do you not do this deal? The Celtics team is not contending. Eric Bledsoe and DeAndre Jordan are excellent young prospects - and you are trading a declining 36 year old who is going to retire soon. We haven't been true contenders for the last two years.

Did someone in this thread say Bledsoe can't shoot? He's shooting 43% from 3.


Did someone also say Jordan is a below average center? He's 24 years old and has an almost 17 PER and is only getting better.

I really don't want to watch this team be mediocre (as it has been this year) for the next couple years.
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« Reply #191 on: February 17, 2013, 01:39:22 PM »

You won't get a better package for KG.

But I would still like to see us add to the team and try to make a run at it.

Outside of Miami the east is wide open and you just never know.  I mean if Lebron were to get something like a concussion in a playoff series and was forced to sit out games, then everything changes.
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« Reply #192 on: February 17, 2013, 01:47:46 PM »

Any new news here?
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« Reply #193 on: February 17, 2013, 02:05:03 PM »

You won't get a better package for KG.

But I would still like to see us add to the team and try to make a run at it.

Outside of Miami the east is wide open and you just never know.  I mean if Lebron were to get something like a concussion in a playoff series and was forced to sit out games, then everything changes.

Why are people so afraid of competing against LeBron? It's been the same crap for the past 5 or so years, and LeBron has won the championship only once, and he barely got it last year.
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« Reply #194 on: February 17, 2013, 03:02:02 PM »

You won't get a better package for KG.

But I would still like to see us add to the team and try to make a run at it.

Outside of Miami the east is wide open and you just never know.  I mean if Lebron were to get something like a concussion in a playoff series and was forced to sit out games, then everything changes.

Why are people so afraid of competing against LeBron? It's been the same crap for the past 5 or so years, and LeBron has won the championship only once, and he barely got it last year.

I agree.  I wouldn't want to play the Heat in the playoffs without James.  I want to see what we can do against them at full health. 
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