Spears and Wojo confirm Celtics and Clippers talking KG

[snively]

I hate Howard, but I'd rather trade Rondo for Howard than do this deal.

If KG chooses to retire then I'd rather give him the chance to do that on his terms.  I don't want to see him traded away (even though I know he has to agree) because that's a nice way of the team saying "we don't need you anymore", and after all KG has done for the Celtics (single handedly changing the culture here) I'd hate to see him go out feeling unwanted as an end to his illustrious career.

I'd rather see him retire, then we can use that cap space to sign a quality player in the offseason.

Rondo is still young and can still build a heritage elsewhere, but if KG is traded out purely for trade chips then that to me is like a black mark on his career, and a borderline insult to a man who has completely transformed this franchise.

This is silly.  He has a no trade clause. 

And if he leaves, it won't be a black mark or an insult, it'll be him choosing to go play for a bonafide contender as a 3rd/4th option with his very close friend Billups, (the guy who talked him into leaving Minny in the first place, IIRC) all while moving close to home.

[btabakin]

This team has no way to beat Miami let alone win a title.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201301270BOS.html

Go watch the Miami game against the Thunder from Thursday. That team didn't show up in Boston. We struggled to beat Miami in a meaningless regular season game that they didn't even care about. We can maybe beat them in the regular season if we're lucky. We can't beat them in a seven game series.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

Building a championship takes years and years (unless you do some back door type of stuff like Mia's little 3)... any team we'd have a chance to build any time soon won't do much better (probably worse) than the team we have now, for seasons on end!

The ultimate goal is to win a title. This current team cannot win a title. Thus we need to build a new team with assets.

You don't know that and even if it's true, again I ask, what team are we building that's even going to have a chance in the next 10 seasons?

I'd rather watch KG and PP lose in the second round than a team of youngins not make the playoffs for the next 10 seasons.

I'm starting to think that you guys think we will turn around and have a contender in the next 5 seasons when we trade off PP and KG. Yes, magic happens once in a blue moon but it's going to be a long process. Let's put that process off for a least 2 more seasons b/c who knows what PP and KG and a few other pieces can do... KG and PP have been there done that and are still stars and some of the best, you need a FEW of those to even contend.

This team has no way to beat Miami let alone win a title.

1. Lebron is unguardable now. He can play any position and creates a mismatch across the entire court.
2. Without Rondo are greatest strength against the Heat is gone.
3. Pierce can barely score now. How is he going to score efficiently when hes guarding Lebron for 30+ minutes per game.
4. We can't double Lebron anymore since he now has Ray Allen sitting in the corner waiting to drain a 3.

There is no way we can beat the Heat let alone the Thunder or the Spurs in a seven-game series.

As others have said, this team has gotten boring and is not fun to watch. And yes, I do think we could have a contender in 5 seasons. Sooner or later we will have to enter the rebuilding process. I'd rather start it now and get back valuable assets in Jordan and Bledsoe than wait an extra 2 years for no reason and have the rebuilding period be longer.

With the new CBA super-teams like Miami won't exist in 2 years. This will level the playing field.

1) Yea, when is that going to change? No matter who we bring in that's going to be true for years to come!

2) We don't know how RR is going to come back after this injury so who knows what he will bring in the future (I think he will be just fine but I'm no doctor nor am I RR)... there is a possibility that we'll never have this RR again.

3) You're talking about an injured PP (pinched nerve in his neck) who still can go off at any time. When he didn't have the pinched nerve earlier this season he was pretty much the same old PP! He has also been better now that he is healing!

PP's stats last season:

19pts, 5rbs, 4ast, and a steal

PP's stats this season:

19pts, 6rbs, 4ast, and a steal (if he hit his fts the same as last season he'd be averaging more points than last season (85% last season-79% currently) and probably be getting 21pts per game like his career avg (but I'm bad at math, so, who knows lol).

The difference is he is shooting slightly worse (his fts are not good this season for sure). My point, you are flat wrong in how PP is performing this season. To further prove my point.

PP's championship year stats:

20pts, 5rbs, 4ast, and a steal

Career stats:

21pts, 6rbs, 4ast, and a steal


4) LOL, we couldn't double Lebroid last season (year b4 that for that matter) and he didn't have Ray! Ray isn't even their best 3 shooter this season anyway. Who even knows how Ray will be playing when the playoffs roll around anyway, I mean he was great for us last season against the cHeat, oh wait. He is also playing bad for them right now... yea, he's still a threat for the big shots/bomb 3s but as we saw last season, any of their 3pt shooters (which is basically their entire team) can hit those too!

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Please say NO to this trade KG!

DeAndre Jordan and Bledsoe is not equal value to what KG bring to the basketball court. Yes they are athletic and young but I don't see them being more than that. Jordan is also owed a ton of money for just being a defensive/rebounding specialist. Bledsoe will need to get paid as well.

NO KG!

[cltc5]

Ainge needs to get KG and Pierce help and get in Doc's ear about how many minutes he's playing these guys.  Why is it that Doc rivers seems to be at the center of issues all the time this year.

[jdz101]

If this era ends with Kevin Garnett, one of the all time greats, being traded for a mug like deandre jordan, I will be pretty disenchanted with this organization for a fair while.

[CroCorvus]

I guess that Danny tried to deal Bass but he could't get anything near as good in return, so now he turns to big names. Maybe by the end of trade dead line, we gonna be looking at the whole new Celtics team. If the KG to Clips trade goes down, then the Captain is also out, and maybe Rondo.
I love KG and Pierce with all my heart and i would love to watch them for one more ride...but you have to put yourself in Dannys position and do your job. I'm sure that nobodys rooting for total rebuild, from owners to Danny to Doc. So, if they want to make a good to great team, now is the perfect time to trade those two because they still play great and you can get something in return. You don't know how well they gonna play next year (if they play at all). So if you wanna get something in return and start something new with different players, good players, then yes, i'm down with it. This year is busted, lbj's gonna win it all (i'm sorry to say that but he's gonna carry that team to olimp this year). To turn to future.
Let's say we don't trade no one and get two or three solid players via free agency. We get to playoffs and in the first round we matchup with Knicks. Let's say that we beat those NY divas with at best 4:2, probably 4:3, and in the next round we meet miami. We can give them a good fight and maybe even a series but with all due respect to our guys, i think without Rondo we can't beat them, no way.
So then what have we got next season: we got Rondo coming of the hard injury not knowing is he ready 60 or 110%, we got KG who's mulling retirement in his goatee, do we wan't to pick up an option on Pierce and of course there's that center and backup pg position issue...In that situation, Danny would be more at the crossroads than now, because KG and PP would be one year older (i can't imagine rumors like lac giving us bledsoe and jordan for kg one year from now), we could not win and maybe would get in the playoffs, maybe.
In that case that would mean total rebuilding, because KG would not want to go that down into mediocrity and maybe he would retire, PP would ask for a trade to contender and all of a sudden you would have a garage sale for nothing. That would mean next 5 years of Raptors coming into garden and kick our asses.
One more time, i love our team but think for the future and let's win it next year or year after that.

PS: sorry for my english
     

[BudweiserCeltic]

Seems more like the some in the Clippers organization really want to add KG than Ainge's willingness to trade KG, and is doing his usual by listening. But KG isn't going anywhere this season, I guarantee it.

[clover]

If this era ends with Kevin Garnett, one of the all time greats, being traded for a mug like deandre jordan, I will be pretty disenchanted with this organization for a fair while.

The main deal would be a near-retiring KG for the C's next starting PG.

[jdz101]

If this era ends with Kevin Garnett, one of the all time greats, being traded for a mug like deandre jordan, I will be pretty disenchanted with this organization for a fair while.

The main deal would be a near-retiring KG for the C's next starting PG.

Starting point guard? You mean Bledsoe?

He's not a starting point guard. The clippers offense was shocking with him running it.

I guess we'll go straight to tanking for picks then.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I apologize for the double post.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

If this era ends with Kevin Garnett, one of the all time greats, being traded for a mug like deandre jordan, I will be pretty disenchanted with this organization for a fair while.

The main deal would be a near-retiring KG for the C's next starting PG.

Uhh, I'm pretty sure we have a starting PG. He's more accomplished, and gives up better production than Bledsoe, on a very cheap contract too if you look at his productions. He'll be healthy come next season. We don't need another starting PG.

We certainly don't need an expensive big man who while athletic can offer no more than just rebounds, block shots and spectacular dunks in exchange for our defensive and overall leader of the team.

[scaryjerry]

Uhh I wouldn't be a fan of this trade, those players would never live up to being traded for the culture changer that is Kevin Garnett sorry but we'd be back to 20 years of mediocrity....give us Blake Griffin or kick rocks...in other words no

[Brendan]

So combine all the trade rumors together:

KG to clippers for De. Jordand & Bledsoe
Green & Bass for Josh Smith
Rondo for Dwight Howard

Pierce for ... ?

New team:

Howard / Jordan
Smith / Jordan
...
Lee / Terry
Bradley / Bledsoe

lol.

[scaryjerry]

If this era ends with Kevin Garnett, one of the all time greats, being traded for a mug like deandre jordan, I will be pretty disenchanted with this organization for a fair while.

Yep