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Offline CelticSooner

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Re: Ray Allen was unhappy about Doc
« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2013, 10:51:37 PM »
This is old news ISTM. And considering how the Celtics played with Rondo dominating the ball this season, compared with how they've played since he got injured, isn't there something to Ray's beef about the type of offense the Celtic's ran in recent years?

There's some truth to it. Thank goodness Doc didn't want Ray handling the ball more though. That was painful to watch the majority of time. Ray is a three point specialist now but refuses to accept that.

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Re: Ray Allen was unhappy about Doc
« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2013, 11:23:08 PM »
Well according to the Daily News, one of Allen’s gripes about his time in Boston was that he was fourth in Coach Doc Rivers’ pecking order, behind Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Rajon Rondo. The Celtics were not happy that Allen defected to the rival Heat last summer as a free agent, while by the end of his time in Boston, Allen told close allies that he felt he ran fourth on Doc Rivers’ list of favorites, after Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett and Rajon Rondo.”
Being the fourth gun in Miami is just so much better.

He wasn't an integral part of building the franchise into a contender in Miami like he did Boston.

I can see why it bothered him, but I don't like him going where he went (Clippers, Grizzlies, Nets, even Knicks wouldn't have been such a slap in the face) or how much he has said to the media about us.

But the more I think about it, I think I'd go to war with Garnett/Pierce/Allen before Garnett/Pierce/Rondo. Ray opens up the entire floor, Rondo shrinks it. Both are capable of getting blown by on defense. Only one looks like he tries every time. Water under the bridge now, jus' sayin'.
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Re: Ray Allen was unhappy about Doc
« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2013, 11:24:41 PM »
Non story for me.

The truth is, I think this year has proven that there are some flaws in Doc's coaching style.

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Re: Ray Allen was unhappy about Doc
« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2013, 11:27:17 PM »
When did Ray become so talkative? My God the dude just won't shut up!

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Re: Ray Allen was unhappy about Doc
« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2013, 11:38:44 PM »
Who honestly cares anymore.. If this came out like 5 months ago i would, but I am just don't care anymore. The guy is gone, and IDC how he felt 4th behind those other guys. Ray was awesome here and I love what he did for the team. Now I just don't care what he has to say. He's gone no longer a concern.



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Re: Ray Allen was unhappy about Doc
« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2013, 11:42:22 PM »
Reporters make a deal out of EVERYTHING
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Re: Ray Allen was unhappy about Doc
« Reply #36 on: February 15, 2013, 12:29:13 AM »
Not a surprise. Ray had issues with Glen Robinson and George Karl in Milwaukee.

Yep, I tried to tell everyone about his Seattle troubles with Nate McMillan, re-posted articles, and no one bit. Thought he was such a gentleman. Only a little of this was on Celtics blog way back when and the brutal censorship here kept me from saying much here. I was very aware of his health issues too. That I talked about here, but sure no one here should believe anything on the internet.

I consider what I can say safely. Those of you who think he was a great teammate: you might be really wrong

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Re: Ray Allen was unhappy about Doc
« Reply #37 on: February 15, 2013, 04:08:31 AM »
The Million Dollar question now is :

"IS RAY ALLEN HAPPY IN MIAMI?"

Why does he still dig up his Celtic experience and tell everyone that he is still a Celtic; I almost puked when I saw him saying that he will forever be a Celtic.
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Re: Ray Allen was unhappy about Doc
« Reply #38 on: February 15, 2013, 05:46:32 AM »
Ray Allen was perceived to be a great guy because he never got in trouble and he had a strong work ethic.  This guy got in more fights with other players and teammates than anyone. 

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Re: Ray Allen was unhappy about Doc
« Reply #39 on: February 15, 2013, 05:53:53 AM »
I'm unhappy with Doc. Some of us on here are impossible to please. If Ray had gone public with his issues with Doc and Rondo then he is a baby, whiner. So he addresses things in the locker room and keeps things professional.
 
 He makes no progress so he does what he feels is in his best interest to gain another ring. Still never going public. Then Doc goes public and admitts it was his fault Ray left.

 To top it all of the guy was right! Rondo was pounding the ball and not utilizing his teammates to their strength or in the best interest of the team.

 But his stats were unreal. So those with Rose colored glasses and in my opinion some with a low bball iq talked about how great he is, he is the best point guard in the league some said.

 Doc is overated! period. Rondo is great sometimes and terrible others. If we actually had a good coach he would have addressed the (Rondo effect)!

 Ray allen IS a class act, he has done nothing to us, said nothing bad and in my opinion he sure had pleanty of ammo.

 His biggest issue here is he was way smarter than the coach and Rondo.

 Look at how were playing right now, Now imagine it's Rondo we dont have all year but we have this current team and Ray allen. I think we would be near the top of the eastern confernce.

 Don't get me wrong I don't blame Rondo. I blame Danny and Doc.

 Do any of us really think that Pops or Jerry Sloan or Phil Jackson would have allowed Rondo to dribble for 20 seconds of a 24 second shot clock just to pass to one of the best and most versatile SF of all time with 2 seconds left on the clock. Seriously anyone here think that would have happened with a Good coach.

 When Rondo great hes flat out great but his ego had gotton the better of him and Doc allowed it to cost us the best shooter in the history of the game. Not to mention all the games it costs us the last few years.

 I still think if COACHED Rondo can get even better now that were talking about the elephant in the room. And yes it was an elephant. I can't believe so many here didn't see it.  It was pink with white spots all over with  flashing LED lights and sparks were comming out it's ___!

 There were several posters here with the insight to see it and fewer with the courage to post about it. You can get torched here if you see things differently sometimes.

 Ray left, good luck to him. he is entitled to speak to whom he wants just as you and I or anyone else does.

 Hard to believe peeple are down on him when our team is proving him right.

 Good grief!
 
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Re: Ray Allen was unhappy about Doc
« Reply #40 on: February 15, 2013, 06:19:04 AM »
Not a surprise. Ray had issues with Glen Robinson and George Karl in Milwaukee.

Yep, I tried to tell everyone about his Seattle troubles with Nate McMillan, re-posted articles, and no one bit. Thought he was such a gentleman. Only a little of this was on Celtics blog way back when and the brutal censorship here kept me from saying much here. I was very aware of his health issues too. That I talked about here, but sure no one here should believe anything on the internet.

I consider what I can say safely. Those of you who think he was a great teammate: you might be really wrong

It seems obvious by now that the reason sports media kept telling us what a totally fantastic, 'classy' guy and great teammate Ray was is that he was filling their ears off the record with his perspective and team gossip.  That became especially clear his last year here, and then, after he left, when various sports reporters went public with it.

The same dynamic often applies when the press start gushing about a particular pol or other public figure.

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Re: Ray Allen was unhappy about Doc
« Reply #41 on: February 15, 2013, 08:20:52 AM »
I dont know why he wouldnt accept the fact that he was the 4th best player on our team. How could he argue against that... Its funny, I enjoyed Ray when he was here, but I dont miss his game AT ALL.
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Re: Ray Allen was unhappy about Doc
« Reply #42 on: February 15, 2013, 08:53:12 AM »
Yep, I tried to tell everyone about his Seattle troubles with Nate McMillan, re-posted articles, and no one bit. Thought he was such a gentleman. Only a little of this was on Celtics blog way back when and the brutal censorship here kept me from saying much here. I was very aware of his health issues too. That I talked about here, but sure no one here should believe anything on the internet.
I'm sorry, "brutal censorship" on CB? I've got no idea what you're talking about.

Also, everyone was well-aware of his health issues. It's not like his gimpy ankles were a big secret.
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Re: Ray Allen was unhappy about Doc
« Reply #43 on: February 15, 2013, 08:55:51 AM »
Only a little of this was on Celtics blog way back when and the brutal censorship here kept me from saying much here. I was very aware of his health issues too. That I talked about here, but sure no one here should believe anything on the internet.

I consider what I can say safely. Those of you who think he was a great teammate: you might be really wrong

Haha.  Wow.  The blog nazis kept you from sharing your super-secret info about Ray Allen, huh?

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Re: Ray Allen was unhappy about Doc
« Reply #44 on: February 15, 2013, 09:13:33 AM »
Only a little of this was on Celtics blog way back when and the brutal censorship here kept me from saying much here. I was very aware of his health issues too. That I talked about here, but sure no one here should believe anything on the internet.

I consider what I can say safely. Those of you who think he was a great teammate: you might be really wrong

Haha.  Wow.  The blog nazis kept you from sharing your super-secret info about Ray Allen, huh?

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