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« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2013, 12:48:38 AM »

You guys are crazy if you don't want josh smith. Now if we're talking max contract then no but if he comes for a discount of course you take him.

Josh Smith is a player with a bad jump shot and a worse BBIQ. The thing he has going for him is freakish athleticism. He's going to turn 28 in the middle of next season. I really don't want to be the team paying 10 million plus to 33 year old Smith.
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« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2013, 12:50:31 AM »

No way I can see the Celtics trading for him this season.  They just don't have enough healthy players to make the salary work and still have enough guys to fill out the active roster.
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« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2013, 12:52:24 AM »

We can't get him as a free agent, meaning we would have to trade for him. But it would be virtually impossible to match salaries without including Pierce or Garnett. He makes a lot this season and the best we can do is Bass, Lee, Melo, picks and cash, and we wouldn't have a full squad after that.

Sign and trade in the offseason?

He isn't the best offensive player out there, but he is still an impact player.

But I'd consider this very unlikely.
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« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2013, 12:53:18 AM »

Would love if he would make it public that he choice is Boston. That way teams don't even bother and we can either trade for him now or in the off-season.
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« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2013, 12:57:29 AM »

I think if KG and Pierce retire they will have more than enough to bring in J Smoove at about 10-12 MM if my math is correct. If he will play for that I say sign him up.

The lineup would be Rondo, Bradley, Green, Smith, Sullinger (I assume they would bring Sully off the bench and try to acquire a center some how).

Now is this a world beating lineup? Of course not. Would this team play very good defense, move the ball, get up and down the court and be a lot of fun to watch? Absolutely.
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« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2013, 12:59:02 AM »

You guys are crazy if you don't want josh smith. Now if we're talking max contract then no but if he comes for a discount of course you take him.

Josh Smith is a player with a bad jump shot and a worse BBIQ. The thing he has going for him is freakish athleticism. He's going to turn 28 in the middle of next season. I really don't want to be the team paying 10 million plus to 33 year old Smith.
I don't agree with the basketball IQ comment. Yes he does take some bad shots, but having a PF who is second on his team in assists to me is an indication of knowing where to move the ball, which shows at least a decent BBIQ.
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« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2013, 01:01:29 AM »

One possibility (kinda crazy) :

Bass, Terry, Sullinger, First
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Sign two guards, one forward

Do our best this year, go out with a bang next year when Rondo is back and KG and Pierce are still relevant.

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KG, Pierce, Smith, Green, Lee, Bradley, Wilcox, FA Guard

8-man rotation next year:
Rondo, KG, Pierce, Smith, Green, Lee, Bradley, FA
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« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2013, 01:02:09 AM »

We can't get him as a free agent, meaning we would have to trade for him. But it would be virtually impossible to match salaries without including Pierce or Garnett. He makes a lot this season and the best we can do is Bass, Lee, Melo, picks and cash, and we wouldn't have a full squad after that.

Sign and trade in the offseason?

He isn't the best offensive player out there, but he is still an impact player.

But I'd consider this very unlikely.

I think we could perhaps sign him as a free agent, provided that KG and Pierce are off the books -- whether it's because of a trade, retirement, or (in Pierce's case) being waived.

Rondo - Bradley - Green - Smith - [whoever]

That's not the worst starting point for a competitive, team, but unless the "whoever" is a top 5 center, I'm not sure how that team does more than make it to the second round in any given season.
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« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2013, 01:09:10 AM »

We can't get him as a free agent, meaning we would have to trade for him. But it would be virtually impossible to match salaries without including Pierce or Garnett. He makes a lot this season and the best we can do is Bass, Lee, Melo, picks and cash, and we wouldn't have a full squad after that.

Sign and trade in the offseason?

He isn't the best offensive player out there, but he is still an impact player.

But I'd consider this very unlikely.

I think we could perhaps sign him as a free agent, provided that KG and Pierce are off the books -- whether it's because of a trade, retirement, or (in Pierce's case) being waived.

Rondo - Bradley - Green - Smith - [whoever]

That's not the worst starting point for a competitive, team, but unless the "whoever" is a top 5 center, I'm not sure how that team does more than make it to the second round in any given season.
With that roster you would have to hope that several of the following happened.
1. Rondo steps up and plays like he did in the playoffs against Miami for the entire season.
2. That Bradley and Sullinger become very good starters.
3. That Green continues to show the agressiveness he has showed recently.
4. That Josh Smith buys into Doc's system and stops shooting long two's.
5. That Ainge is able to work his magic and get a few bargain draft picks in the middle of the draft.

These aren't likely by any means but if we go this route in the offseason I promise that I will be championing these ideas in a few months.
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« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2013, 01:12:29 AM »

You guys are crazy if you don't want josh smith. Now if we're talking max contract then no but if he comes for a discount of course you take him.

Josh Smith is a player with a bad jump shot and a worse BBIQ. The thing he has going for him is freakish athleticism. He's going to turn 28 in the middle of next season. I really don't want to be the team paying 10 million plus to 33 year old Smith.
I don't agree with the basketball IQ comment. Yes he does take some bad shots, but having a PF who is second on his team in assists to me is an indication of knowing where to move the ball, which shows at least a decent BBIQ.

I like to compare him to Antoine Walker, a PF who once led his team in assists, in terms of being an obviously talented player who will drive fans crazy with questionable shot selection and bad decisions.
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« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2013, 01:14:31 AM »

Not a fan, and sorta immature, but of course I want him here
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« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2013, 01:35:37 AM »

You guys are crazy if you don't want josh smith. Now if we're talking max contract then no but if he comes for a discount of course you take him.

Josh Smith is a player with a bad jump shot and a worse BBIQ. The thing he has going for him is freakish athleticism. He's going to turn 28 in the middle of next season. I really don't want to be the team paying 10 million plus to 33 year old Smith.
I don't agree with the basketball IQ comment. Yes he does take some bad shots, but having a PF who is second on his team in assists to me is an indication of knowing where to move the ball, which shows at least a decent BBIQ.

I like to compare him to Antoine Walker, a PF who once led his team in assists, in terms of being an obviously talented player who will drive fans crazy with questionable shot selection and bad decisions.

Yup Antoine Walker Part II if ever he comes here. Then Rondo will be his Pierce Part II. Doc will be the Pitino and Doc will say "KG and Pierce ain't coming thru that Door"

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« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2013, 02:39:50 AM »

Classic Gery Woelfel
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« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2013, 04:53:16 AM »

Jeff Green, Lee, 1st
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KG retires next year
Paul is traded or bought out

Sign Dwight

Rondo, Josh and Dwight are all chums right?
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« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2013, 05:05:51 AM »

Jeff Green, Lee, 1st
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KG retires next year
Paul is traded or bought out

Sign Dwight

Rondo, Josh and Dwight are all chums right?

There's pretty much no way to make the floor spacing and free throws work with those three.  You'd basically need JJ Redick and Kyle Korver as your wings, and Ryan Anderson and Matt Bonner off the bench.
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