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« on: February 13, 2013, 10:27:58 AM »

Ryan not optimistic Rondo will learn

CSN New England | Feb 13

The Celtics success without Rajon Rondo has been pretty obvious so far. But will it last into next season when Rondo returns? Will the C's work out a way to play better with him, or will he
Gary Tanguay and Bob Ryan of the Boston Globe discuss.

"My question is, is he sitting and watching and taking notes and reevaluating himself?" Ryan wondered. "We now can see, and didn't I sit here and tell you he was the selfish assist guy? He holds the ball for too long in order to get the assists, passes up shots … all which is true in my judgment. Ok, next year does he change? Or does he say, 'I'm Rajon Rondo. I was going to start in the All-Star game. I'm the best point guard in the NBA.' If he comes back with that attitude, next year is going to be a big mess. If he comes back with the appropriate team religion, they'll benefit greatly, but I'm not thinking that's going to happen."
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2013, 10:35:41 AM »

I've also heard rumors that Rondo is a little too stat driven. . .stopping by the scorers table, asking "how many I got?" during games.

Hopefully, he will lose that Wilt Chamberlain-esque habit if it's true and get back to being focused on Ubuntu and how to be a selfless winner. 
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2013, 10:38:03 AM »

bob ryan has a really red face and nose, that's all I'm going to say....
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2013, 10:39:30 AM »

The all-bold posts are getting old.
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2013, 10:45:27 AM »

This isn't new. All Players know their stats. They see how much ESPN loves them and how that leads to more exposure, more acclaim, more money, etc.

If Rondo doesn't go after and attain assists records and triple doubles then does ESPN really talk about how great he is? If ESPN doesn't talk about his greatness is he that popular nation wide with fans? And does he get voted in to start the ALL-Star Game?

Look at Kobe. He has a couple games where he looks to get guys more involved and then the media makes a HUGE deal about it. Then you see in games where he is passing up layups and shots to get assists.

Players love hearing how great they are and will go out of the way to maintain notoriety.

I don't know if it's bad as long as you're winning. If we are winning with Rondo then who cares?
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2013, 10:47:14 AM »

Better question might be, will Celtic fans learn to stop kicking their best player while he's down?
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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2013, 10:50:47 AM »

Don't care...his opinion on rondo means little more than the local alcoholics.

Rondo will adjust because he wants to win...if you ask me the franchise created the "this is now rondos team" monster

There's also 3 years of evidence of proving it was the right idea versus 7 games...Ryan is simply being a prisoner of the moment
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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2013, 10:57:10 AM »

I've also heard rumors that Rondo is a little too stat driven. . .stopping by the scorers table, asking "how many I got?" during games.

Hopefully, he will lose that Wilt Chamberlain-esque habit if it's true and get back to being focused on Ubuntu and how to be a selfless winner.


Yawn....this is naive and asinine...you think Michael Jordan didn't do that...or LeBron doesn't? He's very aware and conscious of his current streak right now! Don't let him fool you

That said I've never heard what you're claiming about rondo, but I believe he was aware like most players
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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2013, 11:12:08 AM »

Better question might be, will Celtic fans learn to stop kicking their best player while he's down?

They're driving him out of town when he's taking over games, he's too easy of a target right now.
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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2013, 11:14:35 AM »

Two Boston sportswriters with whom it's generally smart not to disagree when it comes to the Celtics:

Bob Ryan and Jackie MacMullen.
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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2013, 11:18:50 AM »

Two Boston sportswriters with whom it's generally smart not to disagree when it comes to the Celtics:

Bob Ryan and Jackie MacMullen.

Jackie mac said a few days ago on Comcast that Rondo gets it now. She talked to people in the c's organization and they said Rondo wants to fit in better after seeing the little win streak .

So do you believe Ryan who is just stating his opinion , or Jackie Mac who actually talked to people in the organization ?
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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2013, 11:20:26 AM »

Two Boston sportswriters with whom it's generally smart not to disagree when it comes to the Celtics:

Bob Ryan and Jackie MacMullen.
Bob Ryan is overrated, never really liked him.

Jackie Mac is the only Boston writer I lend any credence to.
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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2013, 11:21:54 AM »

I've also heard rumors that Rondo is a little too stat driven. . .stopping by the scorers table, asking "how many I got?" during games.

Hopefully, he will lose that Wilt Chamberlain-esque habit if it's true and get back to being focused on Ubuntu and how to be a selfless winner.

I'm hoping he can learn that his stats are written on the jumbotron...
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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2013, 11:22:04 AM »

Don't care...his opinion on rondo means little more than the local alcoholics.

Yeah, opinions are like buttholes.  Everyone has one, some just stink more than others.
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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2013, 11:23:05 AM »

Two Boston sportswriters with whom it's generally smart not to disagree when it comes to the Celtics:

Bob Ryan and Jackie MacMullen.

Jackie mac said a few days ago on Comcast that Rondo gets it now. She talked to people in the c's organization and they said Rondo wants to fit in better after seeing the little win streak .

So do you believe Ryan who is just stating his opinion , or Jackie Mac who actually talked to people in the organization ?

I believe that Jackie talked to people in the organization and that those people believe that Rondo has changed.

And I believe that Bob Ryan is sincere when he expresses his doubts.  And I think his opinion on such things is worth listening to.
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