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Re: Pick 2: Draft Order for teams and picks
« Reply #825 on: February 17, 2013, 08:38:18 PM »

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Why is IP getting so much hate this draft?  :o
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Re: Pick 2: Draft Order for teams and picks
« Reply #826 on: February 17, 2013, 08:44:00 PM »

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Hmmm...now I see the type of analysis that led you to trade for Deron Williams and keep Howard over Kobe..

The knives are out...


Re: Pick 2: Draft Order for teams and picks
« Reply #827 on: February 17, 2013, 08:45:04 PM »

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Horrible offensive inefficiency? Based on what kimosbe?
How about a TS% below 50% for his career before that guy that got hurt went down? How about a FG% below 46% before that guy went down? How about a career FT% of 60%?

Anyone else want to label that horrible offensive efficiency for a 6'9" PF? He's a PF that takes nearly 10 shots a game to average 11 points!!!

Ha. So you're excluding all the games where the team demanded that he step up his level of play and elevate his game.

Hmmm...now I see the type of analysis that led you to trade for Deron Williams and keep Howard over Kobe..
Okay let me add those games back in. Thompson's career stats, even those games where his team demanded him to step up and perform, because Lord knows the Cavs weren't expecting him to step up and perform before someone got hurt, are:

47% FG%
0% 3PT%
59.9% FT%
50.1% TS%

Sorry people, I didn't mean to mislead you into thinking his offense was as bad as I stated. It's a miniscule better than I let on.
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Re: Pick 2: Draft Order for teams and picks
« Reply #828 on: February 17, 2013, 08:50:01 PM »

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Why is IP getting so much hate this draft?  :o
You're right. We have already dissected Deron Williams and Tristan Thompson. Let's talk about Josh Smith and all his limitations.... ;D

Besides, if we talk about IP's team now, its just that much less we have to do it later, hopefully ;) :D
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Re: Pick 2: Draft Order for teams and picks
« Reply #829 on: February 17, 2013, 08:56:32 PM »

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Horrible offensive inefficiency? Based on what kimosbe?
How about a TS% below 50% for his career before that guy that got hurt went down? How about a FG% below 46% before that guy went down? How about a career FT% of 60%?

Anyone else want to label that horrible offensive efficiency for a 6'9" PF? He's a PF that takes nearly 10 shots a game to average 11 points!!!

Ha. So you're excluding all the games where the team demanded that he step up his level of play and elevate his game.

Hmmm...now I see the type of analysis that led you to trade for Deron Williams and keep Howard over Kobe..
Okay let me add those games back in. Thompson's career stats, even those games where his team demanded him to step up and perform, because Lord knows the Cavs weren't expecting him to step up and perform before someone got hurt, are:

47% FG%
0% 3PT%
59.9% FT%
50.1% TS%

Sorry people, I didn't mean to mislead you into thinking his offense was as bad as I stated. It's a miniscule better than I let on.

In fairness, with young guys it doesn't always make a lot of sense to look at career numbers. 

Thompson gets credit for his recent play.  He's been producing pretty well, and his team has actually won more games with Zeller starting than it did with Varejao.  That's partially because Thompson has stepped up.

(That's the last nice thing I say about IP's team this year, unless it's to pimp Kyrie.)

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Re: Pick 2: Draft Order for teams and picks
« Reply #830 on: February 17, 2013, 08:59:13 PM »

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Re: Pick 2: Draft Order for teams and picks
« Reply #831 on: February 17, 2013, 09:03:00 PM »

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« Reply #832 on: February 17, 2013, 09:05:56 PM »

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Horrible offensive inefficiency? Based on what kimosbe?
How about a TS% below 50% for his career before that guy that got hurt went down? How about a FG% below 46% before that guy went down? How about a career FT% of 60%?

Anyone else want to label that horrible offensive efficiency for a 6'9" PF? He's a PF that takes nearly 10 shots a game to average 11 points!!!

Ha. So you're excluding all the games where the team demanded that he step up his level of play and elevate his game.

Hmmm...now I see the type of analysis that led you to trade for Deron Williams and keep Howard over Kobe..
Okay let me add those games back in. Thompson's career stats, even those games where his team demanded him to step up and perform, because Lord knows the Cavs weren't expecting him to step up and perform before someone got hurt, are:

47% FG%
0% 3PT%
59.9% FT%
50.1% TS%

Sorry people, I didn't mean to mislead you into thinking his offense was as bad as I stated. It's a miniscule better than I let on.

In fairness, with young guys it doesn't always make a lot of sense to look at career numbers. 

Thompson gets credit for his recent play.  He's been producing pretty well, and his team has actually won more games with Zeller starting than it did with Varejao.  That's partially because Thompson has stepped up.

(That's the last nice thing I say about IP's team this year, unless it's to pimp Kyrie.)
Very true.

And again, this just goes back to defending what I thought was an innocuous claim that Thompson was a third rounder in this draft. I actually think he has a very good upside, like a certain rookie on the Celtics that will go un-named. I just don't think right now, he's great or his offense is that good.

And BTW, there's no malice here, just stating what I think.
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Re: Pick 2: Draft Order for teams and picks
« Reply #833 on: February 17, 2013, 09:06:45 PM »

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me likely!!!

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Re: Pick 2: Draft Order for teams and picks
« Reply #834 on: February 17, 2013, 09:08:43 PM »

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me likely!!!

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I think he just misunderstood the "me likely" not realizing you meant "me likey" meaning you liked the back and forth.
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Re: Pick 2: Draft Order for teams and picks
« Reply #835 on: February 17, 2013, 09:11:22 PM »

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me likely!!!

Hopefully ya'll keep you clothes on though.

You likely?

Oh boy, the spelling police are out. ::)
I think he just misunderstood the "me likely" not realizing you meant "me likey" meaning you liked the back and forth.

oh ok yea it didnt make any sense thats why i asked
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Re: Pick 2: Draft Order for teams and picks
« Reply #836 on: February 17, 2013, 09:13:04 PM »

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me likely!!!

Hopefully ya'll keep you clothes on though.

You likely?

Oh boy, the spelling police are out. ::)
I think he just misunderstood the "me likely" not realizing you meant "me likey" meaning you liked the back and forth.

Well I can promise you I'll be keeping MY clothes on.  :o
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Re: Pick 2: Draft Order for teams and picks
« Reply #837 on: February 17, 2013, 09:13:25 PM »

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Why is IP getting so much hate this draft?  :o

Perfect storm, really.

Two controversial picks - Bynum, who is a huge physical specimen. A great post defender, and he's offensively intelligent in that he knows his offensive limitations (he smartly always runs right to the tin in transition and aside from an occasional 3 pt attempt, generally sticks to what he's good at). On the other hand, he's injury prone and there's some evidence to support the fact that Bynum really just doesn't care much.

Thompsons one of those guys where the eye says one thing, and the stats say another. The stats support that he's a really good young player, but the eyes see someone who looks like he sucks (and might be getting numbers just being on a bad team).

And on top of that IP's a great politician. So I think some people are probably being proactive before the IP spin machine starts throwing out statistical links that I never click on.

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« Reply #838 on: February 17, 2013, 09:15:59 PM »

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Horrible offensive inefficiency? Based on what kimosbe?
How about a TS% below 50% for his career before that guy that got hurt went down? How about a FG% below 46% before that guy went down? How about a career FT% of 60%?

Anyone else want to label that horrible offensive efficiency for a 6'9" PF? He's a PF that takes nearly 10 shots a game to average 11 points!!!

Ha. So you're excluding all the games where the team demanded that he step up his level of play and elevate his game.

Hmmm...now I see the type of analysis that led you to trade for Deron Williams and keep Howard over Kobe..
Okay let me add those games back in. Thompson's career stats, even those games where his team demanded him to step up and perform, because Lord knows the Cavs weren't expecting him to step up and perform before someone got hurt, are:

47% FG%
0% 3PT%
59.9% FT%
50.1% TS%

Sorry people, I didn't mean to mislead you into thinking his offense was as bad as I stated. It's a miniscule better than I let on.

Well, Id say he had a tough rookie season adapting as a big man to the NBA game (like just about all big men), and is starting to show his promise this year. And this year, over 53 games and an admittedly slow start, he's got a better true shooting % than LaMarcus Aldridge.


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Re: Pick 2: Draft Order for teams and picks
« Reply #839 on: February 17, 2013, 09:21:05 PM »

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Why is IP getting so much hate this draft?  :o

Perfect storm, really.

Two controversial picks - Bynum, who is a huge physical specimen. A great post defender, and he's offensively intelligent in that he knows his offensive limitations (he smartly always runs right to the tin in transition and aside from an occasional 3 pt attempt, generally sticks to what he's good at). On the other hand, he's injury prone and there's some evidence to support the fact that Bynum really just doesn't care much.

Thompsons one of those guys where the eye says one thing, and the stats say another. The stats support that he's a really good young player, but the eyes see someone who looks like he sucks (and might be getting numbers just being on a bad team).

And on top of that IP's a great politician. So I think some people are probably being proactive before the IP spin machine starts throwing out statistical links that I never click on.

lol at the last part ;D
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Brook Lopez/Tiago Splitter

 

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